Popol Vuh gear on Aguirre soundtrack? Werner Herzog

[dnrg]

Here's a question about an obscure artist - florian fricke.

Does anyone know what gear Fricke used to produce the haunting
soundtrack to Werner Herzog's film *Aguirre: The Wrath of God*?

I'm wondering in particular what he used to get the choir sounds
since, I believe, the film was released in 1972. Did they have
Fairlights back then? Or was it an actual choir? I'd like to know what
other synths were used on the album as well. Finally, can you make
Popol Vuh-like material with a Wavestation?

Thanks in advance.

- Dana

[Paul Ward]

I can *guarantee* they didn't have Fairlights in 1972!!! It might well be a
Mellotron, but I'm not familiar with this guy's stuff.

P.

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[dnrg]

"Paul Ward" <pw...@antispam.mac.com> wrote in message news:<3ef44...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>...

> I can *guarantee* they didn't have Fairlights in 1972!!! It might well be a
> Mellotron, but I'm not familiar with this guy's stuff.

Right you are Paul! :-) I did some research with google, e.g.:

+"popol vuh" +aguirre +mellotron

and the choirs were indeed made with a mellotron. I'm wondering now if
any of the "soft" mellotrons out there today come with CDs or DVDs of
copies of original mellotron tape segments. If so, who sells them?

For something like choir tape segments, I'm wondering if there was a
standard library that most would have used circa 1970-1972.

Thanks!

- Dana

[Paul Ward]

> and the choirs were indeed made with a mellotron. I'm wondering now if
> any of the "soft" mellotrons out there today come with CDs or DVDs of
> copies of original mellotron tape segments. If so, who sells them?
>
> For something like choir tape segments, I'm wondering if there was a
> standard library that most would have used circa 1970-1972.

Try G-Media - theirm M-Tron is the closest you'll get to the real thing (and
if you knew Mellotrons like I know Mellotrons, the closest you *want* to
get! They sound fantastic but are a pain to keep working!).

I also have some banks for Kurzweil K-series and other samples if you hit a
blank.

P.

[Torben Anschau]

I've got a similar question:

You know "I'm not in love" from 10 CC?
Well there's also a synthetic choir sound.
It sounds similar to a fairlight but I don't think it is one, because the
song's too old?
But it's not a mellotron nor it is real vocals?
What is it?

Torben

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[Paul Ward]

I believe they used tape loops, but I have no details.

P.

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[HellPopeHuey]

"Paul Ward" <pw...@antispam.mac.com> wrote in message news:<3ef9d...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>...

> I believe they used tape loops, but I have no details.

That sounds quite likely. Todd Rundgren got a VERY similar sound on
"A Capella" during "Miracle In The Bazaar" and he described it as
being generated that way. He simply 'played' the sliders on the mixer.
Each channel was assigned to a separate tape deck/track of him singing
different notes and he drew them into a giant chord as he went.
Sometimes the most organic results DO come from wrangling it by hand;
hence the Mellotron revival.

Speaking of 10CC... its almost surely WAY out of print, but their
3-LP 'rock opera' "Consequences" was a wonderland of killer
production, including the use of the brilliant-though-failed Gizmo, a
guitar-manipulating device that used spinning neoprene wheels to
stroke guitar strings for a big orchestral effect. Hooray for
oddities.

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[David Morley]

In article <20030625094640...@mb-m04.aol.com>,
ans...@aol.comkeispem (Torben Anschau) wrote:

> You know "I'm not in love" from 10 CC?
> Well there's also a synthetic choir sound.
> It sounds similar to a fairlight but I don't think it is one, because the
> song's too old?
> But it's not a mellotron nor it is real vocals?
> What is it?
>
> Torben

Real vocals

[Paul Ward]

> > You know "I'm not in love" from 10 CC?
> > Well there's also a synthetic choir sound.
> > It sounds similar to a fairlight but I don't think it is one, because
the
> > song's too old?
> > But it's not a mellotron nor it is real vocals?
> > What is it?
> >
> > Torben
>
> Real vocals

They are 'real', but I read they were recorded on tape loops and the mixer
used to create chords, similar to 'Voice of NECAM' by Steve Hackett (but
without the advantage of the NECAM's automation, of course).

P.

[Mivarsh Faz]

ans...@aol.comkeispem (Torben Anschau) wrote:

:You know "I'm not in love" from 10 CC?

:Well there's also a synthetic choir sound.
:It sounds similar to a fairlight but I don't think it is one, because the
:song's too old?
:But it's not a mellotron nor it is real vocals?
:What is it?

Band members recorded their own voices on extra-long tape loops,
and the ethereal effect of voices fading in and out was created by
"playing" the mixing desk itself, manipulating the sliders to fade
individual tapes in and out. It really is an amazing production.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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it was an handmade choir-organ.
every detail here:
http://sanjindumisic.com/popol-vuh-and-the-choir-organ-sound-in-aguirre/