Korg Trinity computer is slow
Tom Scheer
a store the other day, and the thing that struck me most
was how SLLLOOOWWWW the computer is in this machine. It
takes several seconds to respond to most inputs, like changing
a program, voice, level, etc. I think it would become especially
annoying after you become familiar with the commands/operations
and want to enter some information quickly.
I did like the touch-screen interface, though. It makes it very
easy to find what you want and change it, if you can put up with
the lack of speed.
Does anyone else think this is an especially slow machine, or am
I just expecting too much?
KMCox
touch screen goes no thanks, just something that in a few years will be
unreadable and un usable. I think Korg should have stuck with the O1W and
T series and just beefed those boards up. I also disliked that goofy
silver color, talk about something thats going to look ratty in a few
months of use. It looks like some cheep toy instead of the serious work
station I was hoping for, In my opinion Korg let us down, and I don't
look for the Trinity or the Trident will be here very long..
ACS.TYAMU.REFU
>silver color, talk about something thats going to look ratty in a few
>months of use. It looks like some cheep toy instead of the serious work
>station I was hoping for, In my opinion Korg let us down, and I don't
>look for the Trinity or the Trident will be here very long..
>
I agree with you completely on the color thing, YUCKK! I think black
does not need to leave the throne for the standard of electronic
aplliance color for a long time.
The reason also that i haven't looked much into the trinity and prophecy
is because of its color too.
haniel Trisna
h0t...@tam2k.tamu.edu
PPGWave
>is because of its color too.
Hmmm. Then you guys probably hated the Jupiter 8 with its brightly colored
buttons. Or those hideous PPG Wave 2.3s - Who ever heard of a BLUE synth?
Or that vile White Fairlight CMI!
Come on, it's about time that manufacturers made instruments with:
1) A color other than Black
2) A name other than an acronym or serial code.
And about that Trinity CPU.... it's only slow on the screen redraw - if you
select a sound, it is there to play instantly, while the display lags a
second. If you can't wait a second for a display, How the hell are you
navigating the internet?
Lighten up - these are new, cool toys.
PPG
KMCox
Arp, I don't mind "other colors" what I don't like is the feel of the
keyboard, the color is more than likely just a paint coat, and silver is
one of the worst colors for dirt, the touch screen I can forsee being a
major problem in the future, you won't be able to keep it clean and
scraching is unavoidable. I don't like the sounds they are dull and
unimpressive to me, not as ground breaking as I would have hoped from
Korg. I own tons of Korg gear now from the MS 10 to the wavestation and I
have an O1Wr on the way. I know that sitting down with the Trinity for 30
mins I didn't get excited about it at all, the demo on board was rather
lack luster too.. I've been very frustrated for more than a few years
with the industry, no one is producing the M1 of the future and the
Trinity is certainly not it. and the lack of support for gear they sold
the year before really makes me sad, I mean if you invest 2000.00 + in
something and a year or 2 later there are no sound cards, RAM cards etc
available what good is it. Akai has the right idea along with Yamaha in
some ways, they had Editor/Libarian software available for their products,
this make instant support that you can use. Well I've ranted long enough,
I know some of the people at Korg and guys you let me down with this
one...
Reguards
Mark
Rob1622
I actually found the presets to be a nice starting point for editing. All
the basic sounds were there and the layout of the pages for editing is
fantastic. What I found to be a drag was the screen re-fresh rate. It is
too slow. I was able to fly to the pages I needed but wasn't happy with
the delay of the screen. Also having to actually touch the parameter
values and the page names at the bottom of the screen for editing is a
drag. They don't always respond right away. The fader display on the main
program page is a great idea but like the Prophecy front panel knobs was
poorly implemented. I'd still like to see some hardware faders and cursor
keys. By the way, how are they going to rack mount this thing ?????
"I am standing here looking back up at the edge . . . "
Vidar Lund
> I also disliked that goofy
> >silver color, talk about something thats going to look ratty in a few
> >months of use. It looks like some cheep toy instead of the serious work
> >station I was hoping for, In my opinion Korg let us down, and I don't
> >look for the Trinity or the Trident will be here very long..
> >
>
> I agree with you completely on the color thing, YUCKK! I think black
> does not need to leave the throne for the standard of electronic
> aplliance color for a long time.
>
> is because of its color too.
>
> h0t...@tam2k.tamu.edu
>
Yeah! I sprayed my JV-1080 with silverspray, and man did it sound awful.
I just had to wipe that colour off right away!
Vidar
David C. James
with the Trinity. When I played it, I was AMAZED. Especially when you
add the Prophecy module! There are some relevant gripes with the Trinity
though--its steep price, and slow speed in changing parameters.
David James
Paal Hoymork
>I agree with you completely on the color thing, YUCKK! I think black
>does not need to leave the throne for the standard of electronic
>aplliance color for a long time.
>
>The reason also that i haven't looked much into the trinity and prophecy
>is because of its color too.
Yeah right! Ehm, are you musicans? I don't care if my synths are black or
purple! It's of course the sound that counts. I thought I had to mention
this for you guys! And the sound and edit possiblities for Propechy and
Trinity are awesome, so don't talk shit about the colour. Is it because you
don't have anything else to complain about?
If anyone wants to forward this, please mail me too. I'm not that often on
usenet.
John Johnson
: and see the price drop. I would love to have one though. It sounds and
: feels like a great instrument. I don't know if it's changed the rules.
: The Prophecy's program changes are quite slow as well but not as. You
: they will definitely improve this on the next version for more $$$$
: if the Trinity is here to stay. Someone in this newsgroup is already
: selling a Pro. I talked to Korg yesterday and there are no plans for
: a rackmount yet. I'm pro Korg myself. They definitely make instruments
: to hold up and go the extra miles.
Tom Moravansky
>In article <4e8j8d$7...@news.tamu.edu>, ACS.TYAMU.REFU wrote:
>
>>I agree with you completely on the color thing, YUCKK! I think black
>>does not need to leave the throne for the standard of electronic
>>aplliance color for a long time.
>>
>>The reason also that i haven't looked much into the trinity and prophecy
>>is because of its color too.
>
>Yeah right! Ehm, are you musicans? I don't care if my synths are black or
>purple! It's of course the sound that counts. I thought I had to mention
I like different color synths too. The blue PPGs, red SH-101, platinum
Syrinx, white Voyetra-8, and of course all that beautiful natural wood on
the Synthex, DX-1, MiniMoog, Prophet-5, .......
KMCox
one, mostly I was not impressed with the sound, it didn't seem to have
thew same sparkle the other Korgs I own do, I've noticed this trend since
the X series and I am a person who is more of a idividual componet type,
In the business I'm in and the deadlines I have to meet I cannot afford to
have all my eggs in one basket if you will. If you workstation goes down
what are you going to do? Go buy another one? at lest if I loose one
module I can quickly backfill it with something else. I can seee in a
year or 2 of heavy use the touch screen just being a problem waiting to
happen, and screen changes are painfully slow not just slow. While the
trend in the buisness has been to go hog wild with cute little tecky
tricks I think a good solid unit could be built with expandablity for next
the 10 years would be cool. here's just a thought. How many of you are
writing music that 10 years frm now you'll be able to recreate? All us
Midots tend to get so wraped up into buying the coolest stuff when what we
really need is dependablity. I see why now a lot of composers are using
banks of samplers instead of all this new stuff because next year that
keyboard you just bought won't be supported and getting sounds and memory
cards etc will be harder and harder.
Reguards
Mark
PS the color was a bad choice for this reason lite blue screen on a silver
background is very hard to see contrasts.
Dave Schutt
>I can seee in a
>year or 2 of heavy use the touch screen just being a problem waiting to
>happen, and screen changes are painfully slow not just slow.
>
Yes, the screen did change slowly, but I hope it lasts longer than the old
Korg pushbuttons.
--
Dave Schutt <sch...@netcom.com>
Rob1622
: a rackmount yet. I'm pro Korg myself.
I called korg about a month after the Wavestation came out and asked if
there was a rackmount in the works, they said "no way", 3 or 4 months
later the AD was introduced . . .
>mostly I was not impressed with the sound, it didn't seem to have
>the same sparkle the other Korgs I own do, I've noticed this trend since
>the X series
I haven't listened to any of the X series, but I have played the 01w and
talk about muddy . . . the Trinity, although painfully slow, is a
tremendous improvement sonically.
Not A Speck of Cereal
[] When I played it, I was AMAZED. Especially when you
[] add the Prophecy module!
I played the Trinity recently and wonder what you do in
place of the missing controllers of the Prophecy -- the
latter not only has the big roller controller (which the
ribbon controller is mounted on; I'm not sure if I like the
controller, but the tiniity doesn''t seem to make up for
the loss). but it also has the knobs under the display,
which the trinity lacks.
Still, having the Prophecy in the Trinity for a relatively
low cost sounds like a good deal!
Eh?
----
"Great Tambourine overdub! Now where's that smokin' guitar solo
we recorded last night?" -- George Petersen
Not A Speck of Cereal
[] : I would rather can the touch screen (and see if it makes it any faster)
[] : and see the price drop.
I don't think that the touch screen is the cause for the speed problems.
As for cost, well, you're recommendations *might* have had some
weight a couple of years ago. The OS is designed and the UI is
intregal to it. I personally think it is very advanced and works well.
Chris
Not A Speck of Cereal
[] In article <4e8j8d$7...@news.tamu.edu>, ACS.TYAMU.REFU wrote:
[] [...]
[] >The reason also that i haven't looked much into the trinity and prophecy
[] Trinity are awesome, so don't talk shit about the colour. Is it because you
Come on guys, it's not so binary. True, you should not totally discount
a machine by it's color, or discount it at all based on it's color if you really
like the machine. On the otherhand, if most people don't like the color,
then they should say something...
...or Korg will start making ALL of their synths that color.
Eh?