JD-990 vs. JV-1080: What's so #@!# great about the 990?
unset
Why do people keep telling me the JD-990 is a better device than the JV-1080?
I ask why and all I get is some mumbling about "real-time". Exactly what
can the JD-990 do in real-time that the JV-1080 can't? Isn't the JV-1080
advertised as being Roland's best synth module ever? Does anyone have a
waveform list for the JD-990? I'd like to see if it's got a lot of good
usable waveforms or if it's just full of guitar, harp, saxophone, and trumpet
waveforms like most of the other stuff on the market.
Thank you,
James Trammell
Jeff
I don't know what they mean with 'realtime', because both machines are.
The JV-1080 can handle more voices, while the JD-990 has a few more
effects.
The JV-1080 can handle 4 expansion boards, while the JD-990 can only
have one.
These 2 machines can make a perfect combination.
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Bashar
Well, although I have an XP-80, the JD-990 has the standard JV-80 sounds
plus the JD_800 sounds, It has a larger screen for editing than the 1080,It
lets you see your filters instead of wondering around with parameters. It
is also better for Vintage/analog stuff, When expanded with the Vintage
board expansion you get an extra 250 presets exclusively for the
Jd990-using some waveforms from the JD-800, It also works great with a
JD-800 because you can control all your parameters using sliders, Lots of
Pro's prefer it due to the sound possibilities, although this has changed
some with the XP-80's big screen display. The JD-990 is not designed to be
astand alone synth like the 1080, it is geared towards studios, dance
productions, and professional musicians.
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teflon
Just to expand a little on what Jeff <je...@noord.bART.nl> reportedly
said:
"I don't know what they mean with 'realtime', because both machines are.
"They" may be referring to the ability of the XP50/80/JV1080 to synch
their LFO's and DDL's to MIDI clock...One major difference that I wish
had been included in the 990.
"The JV-1080 can handle more voices, while the JD-990 has a few more
"effects.
This is not incorrect, but to be specific, the 1080/XP50/XP80 have 64
voice poly and 16 part multitimberal, the 990 is 24 voice (i think)
and 8 part(though I never use either the 1080 or the 990 in
multitimberal mode, cause it doesn't sound as pretty).
"The JV-1080 can handle 4 expansion boards, while the JD-990 can only
"have one.
this is also true, but a little note: in order for the 990 to access
the expansion board patches (not the waveforms, but the pre-loaded
patches), one must "download" the patches off of the expansion board
into the user area of the unit. It helps if you have a RAM card
because you'll be juggling your patches in and out of memory if you
want to swap them. The 1080/XP50/XP80 see the cards when they're
installed as additional patch bankc (XPA, XPB, etc.)
"These 2 machines can make a perfect combination.
Definatly true. I love the 990 mostly for it's editing features. The
LCD is signifacantly larger than the 1080 and XP50, but similar to the
XP80. There does seem to be a difference in sound quality between the
990 and the 1080 however, and I'm not to sure why this is. Perhaps
it's just the newer patches, but the 1080 sounds a little punchier to
me.
gregory winer
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Mitch Thomas
I missed several of these post so...Did anyone mention that the JD-990 does
the old D-50 ringmod thing. Really helps nail(and improve) those old
D-50 and DX sounds.
I'll go with the both of them. My faithful Rep at SweetWater talked me out
of tradin' my JD for the JV. Now I got both, now I smile big.
Mitch/OCCUPANT
Nick Rothwell
In article <01bb9dda$8a02eee0$82bedbcd@music-producer> "Bashar" <bas...@mtsu.campus.mci.edu> writes:
> The JD-990 is not designed to be
> astand alone synth like the 1080, it is geared towards studios, dance
> productions, and professional musicians.
This statement makes no sense to me. Do you mean, because it's not
a keyboard?
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teflon
Joshua Lien
The JD-990 has 24 note polyphony unlike the 1080 which has 64 note
ployphony, I don't know about you but I could easly run out of polyphony
when using 64, so my point is the JD-990 is a great synth but I don't see
it as the only source for a midi setup..
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Gareth Jones
In article <32388e30....@news.apk.net>, teflon <tef...@apk.net>
writes
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>
>I thought that the 1080 did ring mod too? Am I wrong?
If I remember, it does xmod not ring mod.
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Haldane S. Henry
>I missed several of these post so...Did anyone mention that the JD-990 does
>the old D-50 ringmod thing. Really helps nail(and improve) those old
>D-50 and DX sounds.
>I'll go with the both of them. My faithful Rep at SweetWater talked me out
>of tradin' my JD for the JV. Now I got both, now I smile big.
>Mitch/OCCUPANT
The JV-1080 has a ring modulator too. I'm also interested in finding out
why the JD is better. Comparisons of the specs (from some web page) on
both show the JV to offer a lot more (more waves, efx, structures,
expansion slots, lfo midi sync, etc.). The only advantage I saw for the
JD was its larger display.
What's the rest of us missing?
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Robert S. Carter
All the synth parameters are pretty much the same for the JV and JD except that the JD990
will do hard sync. Both do ring mod- much improved over the D-50- but in my opinion it is
not very useful. Both do a "booster" oscillator cross mod effect which is pretty cool and
alot more interesting than ring mod. Although the JD does have the nice graphic display,
the JV1080 is really nicely set up for convenient scrolling through parameter pages. Once
you get a hang of the right button combos, it's suprisingly easy to program. Obviously
the JV has lots more voices. The JD990 has only 28- so if you use a 4 tone patch, it's
only 7 notes- forget about multitimral operation. I spent a lot of time in the store
comparing the two side by side, and I absolutely agree with a comment earlier in the
thread that the JV sounds brighter- I thought better, certainly more character for
cutting through a mix. So I bought the 1080
BOB
Nervous
In article <51ktmr$i...@news.microsoft.com>, chri...@microsoft.com wrote:
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-> "Joshua Lien" <360...@mtsu.campus.mci.net> wrote:
-> [] The JD-990 has 24 note polyphony unlike the 1080 which has 64 note
-> [] ployphony, I don't know about you but I could easly run out of polyphony
-> [] when using 64, so my point is the JD-990 is a great synth but I don't see
-> [] it as the only source for a midi setup..
->
-> Yeah, well -- I couldn't live with just the JV1080 as the only source in
-> my setup; so since I have several sound sources, one could be 24 note
-> if it really, really made up for it somehow.
->
-> My needs didn't justify the JD990 over the JV1080 tho. I don't have, nor
-> will I own, a JD800. If that's your bag, then it makes more sense for you.
The JD800 will keep its value a lot longer then the 1080 or 990. I'd even
consider as a classic already. (I own one...) But, I'd pick a 1080 over
a 990 any day.
-> The JD990 has D/A converters that are many years older, yet JD990
-> zealots swear they're better (I think they're 2 bits better on the spec
-> sheet). The JD990 also has oscillator sync and as another poster
-> mentioned, it has some of the JD800 single cycle waves that allow you
The 990 has all of the JD800 waves...waves 1 to 108 are JD800 waves. The
rest of the waveforms are from the JV80/880.
-> to get at the extra 250 patches on the Vintage Synth expansion board
-> (do you get both sets of 250, or just the JD990 specific?!?).
->
-> But the JV1080 has it's advantages too. 64 note polyphony, 16 parts
-> multi-timbral (not that I've used that many on one machine lately ;^),
it has
-> 10 waveform structures (2 more than the 990), a few more effects, many
-> more waveforms, many more factory patches, 4 expansion board slots
-> rather than one, LFO sync to external clock.
The 4 expansion slots are a big plus!
-> chris