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Accor...@aol.com

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Nov 4, 2004, 1:25:19 PM11/4/04
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Hello Simon,
I took a file and roughed up the ones I wanted demarked. However you could
as well use a small stud and use fingernail polish to possibly hold it. It
isn't that hard of a procedure to accomplish.

Dee


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chromaticdg

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I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!

David B

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Nov 4, 2004, 5:57:58 PM11/4/04
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To mark your bass buttons without damaging your accordion, use some
sealing wax on the required buttons, then score the sealing wax to
make a rough or crosshatch surface.

Another way is to stick a low profile diamond or similar type
decoration on the buttons, it will only have to be a millimeter or two
thick, you can get these types of things from craft/art/dress shops,
Some people who have little sensation in their fingers like this
approach because they can feel it easily, for me it gets in the way.

You could do it the other way, don't mark them, instead learn where to
go without any marks. My accordion doesn't have any marks on the
buttons so I can play it without getting lost because there are no
marks to find, when friends use my accordion they are stuck because
they rely on these 'stabilisers' to show them the way.

David Batty
Leyland Accordion Club.

On 4 Nov 2004 13:25:12 -0500, "chromaticdg"
<Simpl...@caribsurf.com> wrote:

>I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
>razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
>thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
>is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
>they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>
>
>
>

David Batty
Leyland Accordion Club www.accordionclub.co.uk

Temprance

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Nov 4, 2004, 8:16:05 PM11/4/04
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>
>
>On 4 Nov 2004 13:25:12 -0500, "chromaticdg"
><Simpl...@caribsurf.com> wrote:
>
>>I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
>>razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
>>thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
>>is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
>>they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>David Batty
>Leyland Accordion Club www.accordionclub.co.uk

I paid 99pence for some adhesive stars from Woolworths and the
smallest ones fitted onto the bass buttons of the 40 bass I had.
However when I moved up to the Gallotta 72 the buttins would not takes
anything stuck to them so I touched them with a soldering iron. It is
an old accordion . I wouldn't have done it with a new one.

Temprance

J. Coon

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Nov 4, 2004, 9:40:05 PM11/4/04
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chromaticdg wrote:
>
> I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
> razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
> thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
> is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
> they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>
>

Hot soldering iron, and make a dimple in the tops of the ones you want
to mark.

J. Coon

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Nov 4, 2004, 10:10:12 PM11/4/04
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chromaticdg wrote:

>
> I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
> razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
> thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
> is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
> they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>
>

That is a good way to cut yourself or mar up your accordion when you
slip with the razor blade.

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Nov 5, 2004, 1:27:40 PM11/5/04
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You can take a dremel tool with a small round burr - My dentist
gave me a couple but you can buy them at a hardware store. Hold
the button with padded jaw needlenose pliers and then brace your
hand and gently touch the burr to the center of the button. Go
slow as the button will melt if you rush. You can then use it
as is, or glue a small cut stone in the dimple. I have inset
little cubic zirconias in three different accordions this way
and they look good and are easy to feel.

The soldering iron works pretty well also but make sure you clean
all the solder off the tip first or it will melt its way into
the plastic and look really bad.

John C.

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Ron Kowalewski

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Nov 5, 2004, 2:55:05 PM11/5/04
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i hope we are only marking C-Ab-and E bass buttons.

Ron

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You can take a dremel tool with a small round burr - My dentist
gave me a couple but you can buy them at a hardware store. Hold
the button with padded jaw needlenose pliers and then brace your
hand and gently touch the burr to the center of the button. Go
slow as the button will melt if you rush. You can then use it
as is, or glue a small cut stone in the dimple. I have inset
little cubic zirconias in three different accordions this way
and they look good and are easy to feel.

The soldering iron works pretty well also but make sure you clean
all the solder off the tip first or it will melt its way into
the plastic and look really bad.

John C.

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I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???)
Thanks!

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Mary Kay

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Nov 5, 2004, 6:25:58 PM11/5/04
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Yes, I agree that it is best to learn where they are without extra marks
and tape and such.

I am humble about my playing, but can remember many of my own futile
attempts at trying to mark my basses early on, and now that I can find
the basses, it IS better to just bite the bullet and work on improving
your dexterity and musical ability, which takes more time than you might
think at first.

MK

David B wrote:
>
> You could do it the other way, don't mark them, instead learn where to
> go without any marks. My accordion doesn't have any marks on the
> buttons so I can play it without getting lost because there are no
> marks to find, when friends use my accordion they are stuck because
> they rely on these 'stabilisers' to show them the way.
>
> David Batty
> Leyland Accordion Club.

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Temprance

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Nov 5, 2004, 7:59:02 PM11/5/04
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On 5 Nov 2004 14:55:05 -0500, "Ron Kowalewski"
<idopl...@adelphia.net> wrote:

>
>
>i hope we are only marking C-Ab-and E bass buttons.
>
>Ron

Nope. I marked Eflat, CMajor and A major. I can only play with three
fingers (arthritis)and this was my stretch limit. It works very well
for me.
Temprance

Marie DiCocco & Celest DiPietropaolo

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Nov 6, 2004, 7:55:12 PM11/6/04
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One possible solution might be to pass file or emery board over the button
needed to be marked. The number of passes needed would depend on how
sensitive the player sense of touch is. Of course great care should be
taken to cover the rest of the bass buttons and their holes first to keep
the filings from falling inside the accordion.

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>I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
>razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
>thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
>is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
>they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>
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--- Marie DiCocco & Celest DiPietropaolo <mdic...@erols.com> wrote:

>
> One possible solution might be to pass file or emery board over the
> button
> needed to be marked. The number of passes needed would depend on how
> sensitive the player sense of touch is. Of course great care should
> be
> taken to cover the rest of the bass buttons and their holes first to
> keep
> the filings from falling inside the accordion.
>

And to keep from marking them or the accordion itself.



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Mario Bruneau

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Nov 8, 2004, 9:50:38 PM11/8/04
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What about using an Iron welder to just melt enough plastic in the
center. It worked well on my Brandoni PA. I can feel it.

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Ike Milligan a écrit:


> "chromaticdg" <Simpl...@caribsurf.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>

>>I want to mark certain Bass buttons. I was thinking of taking a
>>razor blade and cutting a groove in the button... but then I
>>thought: maybe somebody else has a better way! So that's what it
>>is! ... Does anybody have a good way to mark the Bass buttons (so
>>they can be quickly felt with the tips of one's fingers???) Thanks!
>>
>>
>

> Deiro on page 42 of "Repairing Your Accordion", available to be ordered at
> my website, recommends drilling into the top of the button after first
> marking the center with an awl, having someone help hold the button with
> pliers so that it won't move. He recommends using a drill bit about the same
> as the button diameter.

Ike Milligan

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"Mario Bruneau" <voirdans...@spam.off> wrote in message
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> What about using an Iron welder to just melt enough plastic in the
> center. It worked well on my Brandoni PA. I can feel it.
>
> --
It's risky since the button catches fire at a very low temperature.

Dave Garland

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Dec 9, 2004, 12:18:43 AM12/9/04
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It was a dark and stormy night when Mario Bruneau
<voirdans...@spam.off> wrote:

>What about using an Iron welder to just melt enough plastic in the

If you mean "soldering iron" (a heated metal rod), that would work,
though I'd think drilling would give you more control.

A welder (acetylene torch) would be *way* too much heat. *Poof* there
go *all* the buttons! :)

johann Pascher

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Dec 9, 2004, 4:25:08 AM12/9/04
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Hi, Ike and Mario and ..

I don’t see a real problem that it catches fire. Some similar stuff to
Celluloid.
Yes the material is flammable at a very low temperature.
But the temperature of soldering Iron is far below the flame temperature.
Usual the screws for the button on the bottom of the key are also melted
into the button.

Ike, are you warred that someone uses a soldering Iron that reaches
higher temperature?
Sure using a drill or a file may be the preferred method.
Some Instruments use a buttons with a hatch cuffed into the button, but
I don’t like if I can fill the uneven surface to much it makes the
fingertip hurt when playing for a long time.

Johann

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drilling leaves a rather smooth top, but careful use of a small
soldering iron, say about 50 watts or less, (less is better) works,
leaving those buttons a little raised. the buttons are celluloid
usually, and melt fast and can burn easily.

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On 9 Dec 2004 04:25:08 -0500, johann Pascher <j_pa...@yahoo.de>
wrote:

>
>
>Hi, Ike and Mario and ..
>
>I don’t see a real problem that it catches fire. Some similar stuff to
>Celluloid.
>Yes the material is flammable at a very low temperature.
>But the temperature of soldering Iron is far below the flame temperature.
>Usual the screws for the button on the bottom of the key are also melted
>into the button.
>
>Ike, are you warred that someone uses a soldering Iron that reaches
>higher temperature?
>Sure using a drill or a file may be the preferred method.
>Some Instruments use a buttons with a hatch cuffed into the button, but
>I don’t like if I can fill the uneven surface to much it makes the
>fingertip hurt when playing for a long time.
>
>Johann
>


I used a soldering iron to mark mine and twirled the point a bit so it
left a raised edge. Did it on the Cmajor Eflat and Amajor and it has
made my life so easy.

temprance

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