Word for Norwegian Accordion
Hans Palm
John Kalinowski wrote:
> A friend and I got into a discussion of accordion spellings and naming
> throughout the world. I remember this thread came up about a year ago
> on rec.music.makers.squeezebox. If anyone saved the information I
> would sure appreciate a repost. And please forward a copy to
> ka...@pweh.com, since I don't always get all every letter in NetNews.
>
> In particular, she remembers her Norwegian/American father referring
> to his accordion as a trekspill (?spelling?). Is this correct? Or is
> this the word for an accordion player?
The Norwegian word for accordion is trekkspill.
Hans Palm
Sweden
Steve Simpson
> The Norwegian word for accordion is trekkspill.
Literal translation into English is "push-play", as opposed to
'dragspel' in Swedish - in English "pull-play".
Sad isn't it?
Hans - how many other words in Swedish are there for 'dragspel'.
Here's a list of those that I can think of:
draengspel
durspel
spel
handklaver
I suppose 'dragspel' is the generic word for bellows instruments. Of
course some of those listed are specific types of accordion - such as
button accordion and melodeon.
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Hans Palm Z/ET
Steve Simpson wrote:
>
> > The Norwegian word for accordion is trekkspill.
>
> Literal translation into English is "push-play", as opposed to
> 'dragspel' in Swedish - in English "pull-play".
>
> Sad isn't it?
Maybe the word should be drag&tryck-spel (pull&push-play)
instead. But then we would argue about whether is should
be drag&tryck or tryck&drag.
A even more generic word is Bälgspel (bellows-play).
> Hans - how many other words in Swedish are there for 'dragspel'.
> Here's a list of those that I can think of:
>
> draengspel
> durspel
> spel
> handklaver
>
> I suppose 'dragspel' is the generic word for bellows instruments. Of
> course some of those listed are specific types of accordion - such as
> button accordion and melodeon.
Dragspel should be generic but it isn't. Dragspel
is really the word for a Stradella accordion -
piano or chromatic. A free-bass accordion is called
Accordeon.
Durspel is a diatonic and most people don't think
that a diatonic is a dragspel.
Other Swedish words? - Dragharmonika, Drängkammarorgel,
Handharmonika, Bälgspel. The last four are old words
that are not used much anymore.
The most common words are Dragspel, Accordion, Accordeon
and Durspel.
Spel is also used:
Vad har du för spel? - What kind of accordion do you have?
Hans Palm
Sweden
Wayne Knights
Hans Palm Z/ET <era...@lmera.ericsson.se> wrote:
>Dragspel should be generic but it isn't. Dragspel
>is really the word for a Stradella accordion -
>piano or chromatic. A free-bass accordion is called
>Accordeon.
What do you call a converter bass accordion (with both stradella and
free bass)?
Dragspel-accordeon?
Wayne Knights
Accordions Worldwide
http://www.accordions.com
Hans Palm Z/ET
Wayne Knights wrote:
>
> Hans Palm Z/ET <era...@lmera.ericsson.se> wrote:
>
> >Dragspel should be generic but it isn't. Dragspel
> >is really the word for a Stradella accordion -
> >piano or chromatic. A free-bass accordion is called
> >Accordeon.
>
> What do you call a converter bass accordion (with both stradella and
> free bass)?
I don't know. Either Accordion or Accordeon since
its both - but not at the same time. Maybe
converter bass accordion is a good name. But
then converter bass accordeon would also apply.
"Converter Accordion/Accordeon" or maybe
"Accordion with Stradella bass that's convertible
to Accordeon with free bass" is better but too long.
Free bass accordions (with or without converter) are
not very common in Sweden and most people either
don't know or don't care about the difference.
In fact we don't even call them Stradella or
Basetti (free bass). This is what we say instead:
Dragspel med standardbas - Squeezebox with standard bass
Dragspel med melodibas - Squeezebox with melody bass
Hans Palm
Sweden
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> Steve Simpson wrote:
> >
> > > The Norwegian word for accordion is trekkspill.
> >
> > Literal translation into English is "push-play", as opposed to
> > 'dragspel' in Swedish - in English "pull-play".
> >
> > Sad isn't it?
>
> Maybe the word should be drag&tryck-spel (pull&push-play)
> instead. But then we would argue about whether is should
> be drag&tryck or tryck&drag.
>
> A even more generic word is Bälgspel (bellows-play).
>
> > Hans - how many other words in Swedish are there for 'dragspel'.
> > Here's a list of those that I can think of:
> >
> > draengspel
> > durspel
> > spel
> > handklaver
> >
> > I suppose 'dragspel' is the generic word for bellows instruments. Of
> > course some of those listed are specific types of accordion - such as
> > button accordion and melodeon.
>
> Dragspel should be generic but it isn't. Dragspel
> is really the word for a Stradella accordion -
> piano or chromatic. A free-bass accordion is called
> Accordeon.
>
> Durspel is a diatonic and most people don't think
> that a diatonic is a dragspel.
>
> Other Swedish words? - Dragharmonika, Drängkammarorgel,
> Handharmonika, Bälgspel. The last four are old words
> that are not used much anymore.
>
> The most common words are Dragspel, Accordion, Accordeon
> and Durspel.
>
> Spel is also used:
>
> Vad har du för spel? - What kind of accordion do you have?
>
> Hans Palm
> Sweden
I've heard of wordplay.....would this be a squeeze play:-)?????
Alan Collins
Hans Palm wrote
>The most common words are Dragspel, Accordion, Accordeon
>and Durspel.
>
>Spel is also used:
>
>Vad har du för spel? - What kind of accordion do you have?
>
>Hans Palm
>Sweden
When i lived in Sweden for a few years my concertina
caused much consternation, since it was clearly not a
"Dragspel" ie accordion, but no word existed in Swedish for
concertina!
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