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Keith Lawlor Stanton

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Jul 9, 2003, 3:17:47 PM7/9/03
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Will you tell me the difference between the Erica style and the Vienna
style. In the Hohner case they are both exactly the same dimensions 11" x
10.75" x 6", weight 6 lbs. However the Erica seems to have a less boxy look.
That may be the only difference, but there is a $200 price difference.

thanks!

ps still have yet to find anyone (even HMTRAD.com) that has more than one or
two boxes to show in the Southeast.

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Jack J. Woehr

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Jul 9, 2003, 4:05:47 PM7/9/03
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Keith Lawlor Stanton wrote:

> ps still have yet to find anyone (even HMTRAD.com) that has more than one or
> two boxes to show in the Southeast.

You should ask this question in Reyes' Accordion forum. They're tejano/norteño oriented,
but very knowledgeable about vendors: http://members.boardhost.com/gilbert27/

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Clive Williams

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Jul 10, 2003, 6:30:59 AM7/10/03
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"Keith Lawlor Stanton" <ke...@stantonmusic.com> wrote in message news:<IHZOa.1735$zJ6....@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com>...

> Will you tell me the difference between the Erica style and the Vienna
> style. In the Hohner case they are both exactly the same dimensions 11" x
> 10.75" x 6", weight 6 lbs. However the Erica seems to have a less boxy look.
> That may be the only difference, but there is a $200 price difference.
>
> thanks!
>
> ps still have yet to find anyone (even HMTRAD.com) that has more than one or
> two boxes to show in the Southeast.

For Vienna, I assume you mean the 2815, also known as the "Hohner
Pokerwork" - because technically, they're both Vienna accordions
(defined as a 2 row diatonic button accordion, where they rows are
tunes a fifth apart - D/G, C/F, G/C, etc). Other than the casing,
there's no difference whatsoever between the 2 boxes - the erica's
bass buttons are smaller and a little more awkward, but it has a
rounded edge at the bass end which is a little less wearing on the
left wrist than the sharper edge of the Pokerwork. One thing to bear
in mind though, is that Hohner make their accordions all over the
place now, including some low price models in China, so if you look
closely you may find the cheaper accordion bearing a "made in China"
sticker, and the Erica not. It's usually quite hard to tell exactly
where they are made, but the Chinese manufactured ones are reckoned to
be lower quality than the ones manufactured elsewhere - if you open it
up, you may notice a difference in materials, finishing, etc.

Cheers,

Clive
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mail for real one)

Ike Milligan

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Nov 17, 2010, 6:56:53 PM11/17/10
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"Keith Lawlor Stanton" <ke...@stantonmusic.com> wrote in message
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Ok I have some button boxes that (maybe) I could custom overhaul if you will
tell me exactly what you are looking for.

Ike Milligan

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Nov 17, 2010, 6:59:23 PM11/17/10
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"Clive Williams" <clive.w...@iname.com> wrote in message
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Even if not made in China, the reeds are not what they were a few years ago.
The China ones have about the same reeds as the others now, but the Chinese
springs seemed to have a tendency to break, unless that has been corrected
recently, so a 1c spring causes a $100 repair.

Peter

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Nov 22, 2010, 7:23:57 AM11/22/10
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In article <AbGdnRQruuRXg3rR...@earthlink.com>, Ike
Milligan <accord...@mindspring.com> writes

>
>"Clive Williams" <clive.w...@iname.com> wrote in message
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>> "Keith Lawlor Stanton" <ke...@stantonmusic.com> wrote in message
>>news:<IHZOa.1735$zJ6....@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com>...
>>> Will you tell me the difference between the Erica style and the Vienna
>>> style. In the Hohner case they are both exactly the same dimensions 11" x
>>> 10.75" x 6", weight 6 lbs. However the Erica seems to have a less
>>>boxy look.
>>> That may be the only difference, but there is a $200 price difference.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> ps still have yet to find anyone (even HMTRAD.com) that has more
>>>than one or
>>> two boxes to show in the Southeast.
>>
>> For Vienna, I assume you mean the 2815, also known as the "Hohner
>> Pokerwork" - because technically, they're both Vienna accordions
>> (defined as a 2 row diatonic button accordion, where they rows are
>> tunes a fifth apart - D/G, C/F, G/C, etc)

Fifth?

For example:

D - first - lower treble row
E - second
F# - third
G - fourth not fifth on my mental arithmetic for higher treble row.


>>. Other than the casing,
>> there's no difference whatsoever between the 2 boxes

...


>>One thing to bear
>> in mind though, is that Hohner make their accordions all over the
>> place now, including some low price models in China, so if you look
>> closely you may find the cheaper accordion bearing a "made in China"
>> sticker, and the Erica not. It's usually quite hard to tell exactly
>> where they are made, but the Chinese manufactured ones are reckoned to
>> be lower quality than the ones manufactured elsewhere - if you open it
>> up, you may notice a difference in materials, finishing, etc.

"Open it up" is good. Turnbuckles or similar at sides of fascia or
grille allow this to be removed. My D/G Pokerwork carries some German
rather than Chinese characters inside plus a serial number.

>
>Even if not made in China, the reeds are not what they were a few years
>ago. The China ones have about the same reeds as the others now, but
>the Chinese springs seemed to have a tendency to break, unless that has
>been corrected recently, so a 1c spring causes a $100 repair.

I found the Pokerwork on e-bay, reportedly a couple of years old, first
two users hadn't managed to get anywhere playing it. Perhaps worth
looking for older examples rather than the latest. I'm in England, so
there is that small network of specialised builders/repairers/dealers.


Perhaps worth looking at meleodeon.net for discussions on
Pokerwork/Erica and Chinese v German ?
--
Peter

Squeezy99

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Dec 3, 2010, 5:35:35 AM12/3/10
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I bought a Hohner Pokerwork C/F about 9 years ago in the UK and was told it
was the start of production in China. It played and felt just like the old
German built ones but with one main difference. A wooden strip had been
added on the bass end that made the square edge more comfortable to play.
One wonders why this was not done years before. I do not play this very
often as I bought it to sing with but it is a good machine to play and
sounds just like a pokerwork should.
Dave

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