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trwo...@ra.rockwell.com

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May 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/19/00
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Could someone please tell me the type and tuning of the accordions
typically used in Quebecois-style music?

Thanks much,

Terrance


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Bruce Henderson

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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In article <OF3B800F5F.2D0BB877...@ra.rockwell.com>,
trwo...@ra.rockwell.com writes:

>Could someone please tell me the type and tuning of the accordions
>typically used in Quebecois-style music? Thanks much, Terrance

IME (YMMV), accordions are not used often in Quebecois-style music --
squeezeboxes are. The most frequently used type is the diatonic single-row,
10-button Louisana style box (sometimes called a "melodeon" in LA) -- these are
most frequently tuned in the key of "D". These instruments have four reeds
per note, arranged LMMH (or Bassoon, Clarinet/Clarinet, Piccolo), with a "stop"
to switch each individual reed voice in or out. Occasionally, you will see a
player who has (in addition to his D box), one or more boxes in other keys (G
and A probably the most common). Also, I have seen players use a three-row
diatonic box - the ones that I've seen are G/C/F but these are most frequently
used for playing in keys other than "D".
There are a few box makers in Quebec -- instruments made there tend to be
professional-quality, hand-made, high-cost boxes. Many players uses instruments
made in Louisiana ("Cajun-style"), with the appropriate modifications made for
tuning, of course. More modestly priced instruments (such as Hohner
single-rows) are sometimes seen and can be good "student instruments".
Is this what (or more than) what you wanted to know?
Bruce Henderson, Alexandria VA and Solihull, WMids

trwo...@ra.rockwell.com

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May 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/22/00
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Bruce Henderson wrote:
>Is this what (or more than) what you wanted to know?

Yes, thanks for the info!
One only other thing I would like to know is:
What type of accordions is the guy from La Bottine Souriante using?

Thanks again,

Terrance


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Chris Moran

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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The best 10-key Quebecois boxes I have seen are made by Raynald Oulet.
The next best are Castagnari.

Quebecois boxes are normally tuned to "D" and are swing-tuned (a tremolo
tuning where you hear the tremolo beat about 1-2 times per second).

Raynald and a partner make one of the very finest 10 key melodeons one will
ever find for about $1600 US or $2400 CAN (case & shipping incl. to
U.S.A.)---it is called the MELODIE and is pictured on the cover of Raynald's
CD/cassette tape of the same name. Beautiful Flamed Curly Maple in brown,
red, green, blue or even rasberry stains. Raynald's instrument in stained
brown--very classy, dignified. He hangs his own bellows---almost unheard of
in accordion craftsmanship these days! And the sound is other-worldly
beautiful, especially when he plays with only the two-clarinet and one
piccolo reeds selected. Waiting time is about 4 months. Not bad for what
many consider to be the Mona Lisa of melodeons!

Raynald Oullet
(Carrefour mondial de l'accordeon)
301, boul, Taché Est
C.P. 71, Montmagny
(Québec), Canada
G5V 3S3

phone/fax: 418-248-7927

Hope this is of service.

All the best,

Chris Moran
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>Really-Reply-To: mrgtw...@aol.comnojunk (Bruce Henderson)
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>Is this what (or more than) what you wanted to know?

>Bruce Henderson, Alexandria VA and Solihull, WMids
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Bruce Henderson

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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In article <OF9376DFE7.D0405137...@ra.rockwell.com>,
trwo...@ra.rockwell.com writes:

>One only other thing I would like to know is:
>What type of accordions is the guy from La Bottine Souriante using?

I'll be able to tell you after Wednesday night! They're playing at Warwick
Uni. (just down the road). Concert to be broadcast on Mike Harding's "Folk on
2" - that's BBC Radio 2, for those outside the UK (well, it's BBC Radio 2 for
folks inside the UK too, but you know what I mean - sheesh, what a tough
crowd).
Regards, Bruce Henderson (Alexandria, VA & Solihull, W Mids)

Orest T Lechnowsky

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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Question: do the Quebecois boxes have 2 or 4 basses? I've seen 10 key
melodeons with both arrangements.

Yes I have seen a photo of Raynald's melodeon, if it sounds half as good
as it looks, then it must be gorgeous. There is a picture of it on the
web somewhere.

Orest

On Mon, 22 May 2000 20:34:44 -0800 "Chris Moran" <cmo...@earthlink.net>
writes:


>The best 10-key Quebecois boxes I have seen are made by Raynald Oulet.
>The next best are Castagnari.

[snip]


>Raynald and a partner make one of the very finest 10 key melodeons one
will
>ever find for about $1600 US or $2400 CAN (case & shipping incl. to
>U.S.A.)---it is called the MELODIE and is pictured on the cover of
Raynald's
>CD/cassette tape of the same name. Beautiful Flamed Curly Maple in
brown,
>red, green, blue or even rasberry stains. Raynald's instrument in
stained
>brown--very classy, dignified. He hangs his own bellows---almost unheard
of
>in accordion craftsmanship these days! And the sound is other-worldly
>beautiful, especially when he plays with only the two-clarinet and one
>piccolo reeds selected. Waiting time is about 4 months. Not bad for what
>many consider to be the Mona Lisa of melodeons!

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Bruce Henderson

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In article <20000523.1223...@juno.com>, Orest T Lechnowsky
<or...@juno.com> writes:

>Question: do the Quebecois boxes have 2 or 4 basses? I've seen 10 key
>melodeons with both arrangements.

Hi, Orest. I have never seen a 10-button 4-reed-per-note box used for
Quebecois music with anything other than two bass buttons -- one a bass note
button and one a chord button. (Of course, two-or-three rows will have 8 or
12, but IME they're much rarer, anyway.)
Now, this is not to say "never" (I'm certainly not an expert) but, if any
players use a 4-bass box, they are most likely the exception rather than the
rule.
Bruce Henderson, Alexandria VA & Solihull, W Mids

Orest T Lechnowsky

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On 24 May 2000 13:48:13 GMT gat...@d-and-d.com writes:
>Really-Reply-To: mrgtw...@aol.comnojunk (Bruce Henderson)

>Hi, Orest. I have never seen a 10-button 4-reed-per-note box used for
>Quebecois music with anything other than two bass buttons -- one a bass
note
>button and one a chord button. (Of course, two-or-three rows will have
8 or
>12, but IME they're much rarer, anyway.) Now, this is not to say "never"
(I'm >certainly not an expert) but, if any players use a 4-bass box, they
are most >likely the exception rather than the rule.

Thats kind of what I figured, but I wanted to confirm with somebody more
familiar than myself.

Orest


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Bruce Henderson

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OK - For the concert last night, the La Bottine (I don't think that spelling's
right - check it before you quote me) box player played a fair amount on a Marc
Savoy 10-button one-row in D. He also had two of the most decrepit- looking
red "pearloid/ MOTS" Corona III Hohners that you ever saw -- one in GCF and one
in ADG. The Hohners had no grilles (I assume removed so that the sound would
be directed straight toward the little mikes on mini goosenecks fitted to the
front of the boxes) and appeared to be mostly held together with duct tape.
I noticed that he would often start a tune on the one-row and then switch part
of the way through (after the horns had come in etc. and they'd jacked the
tempo up for the dramatic effect) to the ADG and continue playing the tune on
the three-row, crossing rows in a flurry and playing lots of right-hand chords.
Of course, tunes in other keys might be started on the GCF - on those he'd
play that box straight through.
Of course, on some numbers, he would not play the boxes at all -- he (I think
his name is Yves) would sing and accompany himself on spoons or other
percussion or add harmonica.
For *accordion* content, the synth/ keyboard player had a big piano accordion
(big white and chrome thing - really girlie lookin) but he very rarely played
it and when he did, it was mostly right-hand vamp stuff.
They seemed to have trouble getting the sound right in the hall. Did anyone
hear the concert on BBC2? How was the sound? The concert started with about
three numbers from The Albion Band, then a 20-minute set from Eddie LeJeune
(black, 10 button Cajun box, accompanied by fiddler and guitar), and then the
remained of the radio show was La Bottine. After the radio concert was over,
they took a break (or "interval" as we Brits say) then La Bottine came back --
they quickly got the sound in the hall much better then.


trwo...@ra.rockwell.com

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My thanks to Bruce Henderson for the great report on the La Bottine
squeezeboxes.

Terrance


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Bruce Henderson wrote:

> They seemed to have trouble getting the sound right in the hall. Did anyone

> hear the concert on BBC2? How was the sound? After the radio concert was over,


> they took a break (or "interval" as we Brits say) then La Bottine came back --
> they quickly got the sound in the hall much better then.

The sound on the radio was exellent (as radios go), so they must have been mixing
it differently for the broadcast bits. Shame I couldn't make the concert though.

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