Flaco Jimenez accordion?
G. Don Howell
I realize that Flaco Jimenez plays a Hohner Corona II accordion, but
does anyone believe
his is a "stock" Corona II? Surely he has custom tunings, etc., on his
Corona II's due to he being
a professional! Anyone with serious opinions?
Also, any recommendations for external microphones and amplifiers for
"live" playing?
Polkadon "Roll out the barrel!!!............
Crs smitty
When the Texas Tornadoes were in Bozeman, Montana I went to see them. I went
early to the night club they appeared in and while the setup crew (Freddy
Fender's son was one of them) was setting sound systems and adjusting mikes I
was talking to them - none of them could play accordion so they had me play his
accordion and move around with it to get his wireless mike set properly.. As
far as I could tell his accordion is pretty standard - even has basses though I
was told the Tex-Mexer's take the reed block's out on the bass side for better
air grabbing (for a fact - Flaco doesn't take them out) After the show I
talked with Flaco who even played a few Austrian tunes for me. I asked him
about his accordion and he said it was stock Hohner ( he carries two boxes for
different keys - he referred to as his flat box and his sharp box if I remember
correctly ) Flaco is a very personable and knowledgeable musician, he told me
he preferred the button box because of it's lightness and though the boxes are
somewhat limited you can't tell it by listening to him - seems he has every
note he needs and more than I seem to be able to find on a button box - but I
play the Hohner's too and I saw no difference from the stock box - now the
reeds inside might be super hand-made reeds (Flaco said they weren't) but they
have the same basic tuning as most Hohners.
Just what I know about it!
Ron Smith, Montana squeezer
G. Don Howell
Thanks so much for the headsup on Flaco's Hohners! I guess in the hands
of a master
they can sound better than stock instruments!!!
Polkadon
Crs smitty
Take a listen some time to another player in that genre - Valerio Longorio -
if you can get a good recording of his he is even better than Flaco (sorry
Flaco) but most of his recordings are poor quality recording jobs only one
that I have is really superb can't think of the name of it now ( it has
"Bouquet of Roses" on it and he sings it in both Spanish and English and
embellishes it with that accordion like you wouldn't believe - no piano
accordionist can do that because those big boxes could never duplicate that
sound - and who says this isn't jazz? there's more augmented chords and jazz
riffs than you would think possible from the box ) . There are many good
players of the Hohner "Vienna- style" boxes -- another is Steve Jordan - wild
and always making me wonder where those notes came from but invariably I pick
up a box and they're there! It's just not something I ever thought of doing
with the box!
Ron Smith, Montana squeezer
Ted Samsel
: >
: >Hell Ron:
: >
: >Thanks so much for the headsup on Flaco's Hohners! I guess in the hands
: >of a master
: >they can sound better than stock instruments!!!
: >
: >Polkadon
: >
: >
: >
: Take a listen some time to another player in that genre - Valerio Longorio -
: if you can get a good recording of his he is even better than Flaco (sorry
: Flaco) but most of his recordings are poor quality recording jobs only one
: that I have is really superb
You don't think the Arhoolie stuff is great?
can't think of the name of it now ( it has
: "Bouquet of Roses" on it and he sings it in both Spanish and English and
: embellishes it with that accordion like you wouldn't believe - no piano
: accordionist can do that because those big boxes could never duplicate that
: sound - and who says this isn't jazz? there's more augmented chords and jazz
: riffs than you would think possible from the box ) . There are many good
: players of the Hohner "Vienna- style" boxes -- another is Steve Jordan - wild
: and always making me wonder where those notes came from but invariably I pick
: up a box and they're there! It's just not something I ever thought of doing
: with the box!
Jordan's boxes are definitely not "stock".
And Jordan is said to have been a jazz guitar player (with Miles Davis)
before he went back to the diatonic box...
I like Santiago Jr. more. He's less of a showboat than the other two.
--
Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net (or tbsa...@richmond.infi.net)
"do the boogie woogie in the South American way"
Rhumba Boogie- Hank Snow (1955)
G. Don Howell
stayed with the more traditional style of Tex-mex Tejano. Don Santiago
taught his son's well!
Polkadon
Michael Berenstein
O come on, He is not "don". Now we start award nobility title to pueblos.
This is America after all! Have a pity to your own history, please.
Crs smitty
>I like Santiago Jr. more. He's less of a showboat than the other two.
>
>--
>Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net (or tbsa...@richmond.infi.net)
Wow, everytime I've seen Santiago Jr. I saw him dance around with the box more
than I've ever seen Flaco even move with it! Who's the showboat?
Santiago is good in the older tunes - Flaco is a jazz player! Santiago even
bellows-shakes by quickly switching keys on the right hand to keep the same
note in there! What I've seen of him he is a *big* showboat! Not to take
anything away from him - I like his playing as well - he is just not in the
same class as Flaco! Flaco knows all the jazz chords and riffs that embellish
that Tex-Mex music (and also some of Dwight Yoakim's pieces).
Santiago however as a solo accordionist is better than Flaco because he
himself is a show and has that charisma that Flaco has only as an accompanying
accordion player. Not that Flaco can't play solo - he can and does - but
Santiago is a way better showman at the solo business. Flaco might even agree
with this!
Sorry to disagree with you!
Ron Smith, Montana squeezer
Ted Samsel
: "G. Don Howell" wrote:
I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
--
Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net (or tbsa...@richmond.infi.net)
Ted Samsel
: >
: >I like Santiago Jr. more. He's less of a showboat than the other two.
: >
: >--
: >Ted Samsel....tejas@infi.net (or tbsa...@richmond.infi.net)
: Wow, everytime I've seen Santiago Jr. I saw him dance around with the box more
: than I've ever seen Flaco even move with it! Who's the showboat?
: Santiago is good in the older tunes - Flaco is a jazz player!
You heard PURELY INSTRUMENTAL yet? I prefer the traditional style...
Flaco's great, but I guess it's a matter of taste.
Michael John Kozak
gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:
> I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
> problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
Umm... Canada is a part of America? Last I knew Canada was still an
independent nation. Canada is now what the 51st state?
MJ
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Jeroen Nijhof
>
> gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:
> > I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
> > problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
>
> Umm... Canada is a part of America? Last I knew Canada was still an
> independent nation. Canada is now what the 51st state?
He said America (as did the poster he was referring to), not the USA!
You know, the continents.
There is a difference, even though not all US-Americans seem to know
that :-)
--
Jeroen Nijhof J.H.B....@aston.ac.uk
Accordion Links http://www-th.phys.rug.nl/~nijhof/accordions.html
Doug Cumming
Hello Michael:
As we're both Canadians, what about the "Accordion Tradition" of the
newly-formed [1 April 1999] territory, Nunavut? There has been a lengthy
history of Inuit accordion-playing. Anything on the WWW that you're aware
of? Several years ago the Canadian Museum of Civilization had an exhibition
of Inuit Art and, you guessed it, the official poster was of an Inuit woman
playing the accordion. It's a very nice poster -- I had it laminated. I'd
be curious as to sources of Inuit accordion-playing. Any leads?
-- Doug Cumming
Michael John Kozak wrote:
> gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:
> > I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
> > problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
>
> Umm... Canada is a part of America? Last I knew Canada was still an
> independent nation. Canada is now what the 51st state?
>
> MJ
Michael Berenstein
title to pueblos.
>
>
> I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
> problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
>
I don't have a problem. If I was a mexican and referred to as "don", I
wouldn't be very happy though.
It's like being referred to as "Your highness".
There ARE dons around. I bet even in Mexico. And I bet those dons run the
country and lough at "lower people" who call each other "dons" out of respect.
Jeroen Nijhof
>
> As we're both Canadians, what about the "Accordion Tradition" of the
> newly-formed [1 April 1999] territory, Nunavut? There has been a lengthy
> history of Inuit accordion-playing. Anything on the WWW that you're aware
> of? Several years ago the Canadian Museum of Civilization had an exhibition
> of Inuit Art and, you guessed it, the official poster was of an Inuit woman
> playing the accordion. It's a very nice poster -- I had it laminated. I'd
> be curious as to sources of Inuit accordion-playing. Any leads?
Interesting question!
I did search Alta Vista on innuit near accordion, which returned 5 results:
http://www.digelius.com/greenlan.htm -- a discography
http://www.pathfinder.com/travel/greenphoto/erick.html - a travelogue
http://newton.physics.brocku.ca/students/jim_hiscott.html -- a series producer
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~canada/nunavut.html -- a short history
http://www.cyberus.ca/~johnb/jrb.html -- a bit of history
Inuktitut and accordion found a few more:
http://home.istar.ca/~inukshuk/recordstore.html -- Inukshuk Records
http://www.cyberus.ca/~johnb/paddies.html -- band: Paddies on the Tundra
Inuit and accordion finds a lot, mostly irrelevent, but still some:
http://www.nunavik-tourism.com/culture.html -- Nunavik Tourism Association
http://www.nunatour.nt.ca/festivals.html -- festivals and events
--
Jeroen Nijhof J.H.B....@aston.ac.uk
Accordion Links http://www-th.phys.rug.nl/~nijhof/accordions.html
Mark Popp
>
>> I have to agree about Santiago, Jr. I have all of his albums and he has
>> stayed with the more traditional style of Tex-mex Tejano. Don Santiago
>> taught his son's well!
>>
>
>O come on, He is not "don". Now we start award nobility title to pueblos.
>
realize what they've done. They probably thought they were respecting
him and using "Don" as an alternate to "Sr".
Rick Spano, Toby Hanson
> gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:
> > I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
> > problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
>
> Umm... Canada is a part of America? Last I knew Canada was still an
> independent nation. Canada is now what the 51st state?
Nah. It's not *THAT* important. It's just a posession, sorta like Guam,
only colder. :)
--
-Rick Spano, Toby Hanson
Spano Accordions/Drums Northwest
http://www.aa.net/spanomusic
All Tonaveri and Spano Accordions are guaranteed 100% Y2K compliant.
Rick Spano, Toby Hanson
<mi...@pixar.com> wrote:
> "G. Don Howell" wrote:
>
> > I have to agree about Santiago, Jr. I have all of his albums and he has
> > stayed with the more traditional style of Tex-mex Tejano. Don Santiago
> > taught his son's well!
> >
> > Polkadon
>
> O come on, He is not "don". Now we start award nobility title to pueblos.
> This is America after all! Have a pity to your own history, please.
News Flash:
Milwaukee, WI (AP)
April 8, 1999
In response to the realization that there are no titles of nobility or
royalty in the United States, the City of Milwaukee posthumously
downgraded Frankie Yankovic from "America's Polka King" to "America's
Polka Bureaucrat." City officials could not be reached for comment.
Michael Berenstein
> >
> You might want to email Don Santiago's record company. They may not
> realize what they've done. They probably thought they were respecting
> him and using "Don" as an alternate to "Sr".
OK, OK. So Don is like Sir nowadays.
Fine with me.
It's funny though how people forget their bloody past and develop liking to
accessories which used to be associated with repression.
Ralph Stricker
Michael Berenstein <mi...@pixar.com> wrote:
Si Senor Putz (history major)
Ralph Stricker
Ralph Stricker
Michael Berenstein <mi...@pixar.com> wrote:
>Ted Samsel wrote:: O come on, He is not "don". Now we start award nobility
>title to pueblos.
>
>>
>>
>> I have no problem with patriarchal honorifics. What's your
>> problem? America goes from Canada to Argentina...
>>
>
>I don't have a problem. If I was a mexican and referred to as "don", I
>wouldn't be very happy though.
>It's like being referred to as "Your highness".
>There ARE dons around.
Donald Duck, Donald Trump Don is an old term of respect in Mexico. We are not referring to Don
Corleone.
SHEEEESH
Ralph Stricker
Mike Maddux
Word from San Antonio yesterday: The daughter of Flaco Jimenez was killed in a
traffic accident. I don't know any more details.
Mike
Bill Black
>
> Word from San Antonio yesterday: The daughter of Flaco Jimenez was > killed in a traffic accident. I don't know any more details.
Here are two articles from the San Antonio paper with more information:
http://www.expressnews.com:80/pantheon/news-bus/crime-crisis/0601btlc.shtml
http://www.expressnews.com:80/pantheon/news-bus/crime-crisis/0703bgwb.shtml
--Bill Black
Washington, D.C.
Gary Dahl
and very very sad. I don't think I could function for a long time if
that happened to my daughter.
I will write and dedicate a song in an upcoming new book to Flaco and to
the memory of his daughter. (maybe two...with one using his daughter's
name...with permission of course) This future book is a signed contract
to be published by Mel Bay...CD to be included. The title is "Learn to
play Tejano/Conjunto Accordion" tentative release is late 2000
I have quite a few dedicated songs in the soon to be released Italian
book...early fall release. One of my daughter's friends was killed in a
bicycle accident in San F. a year ago...Nessun Dorma is dedicated to
her. (aria by Puccini) Another very sad accident.
http://www.accordions.com/garydahl
Gary Dahl
Puyallup, Wa. USA
http://users.aol.com/accrdnmn/
(a site to hear a few recordings...
scroll down to the polka listing first then click on the eiffel tower)
Gary Dahl
Gary Dahl
ng...
Mike Maddux
gary...@webtv.net says...
>
>one of my students told me this sad news last night...that was shocking
>and very very sad. I don't think I could function for a long time if
>that happened to my daughter.
>I will write and dedicate a song in an upcoming new book to Flaco and to
>the memory of his daughter. (maybe two...with one using his daughter's
>name...with permission of course) This future book is a signed contract
>to be published by Mel Bay...CD to be included. The title is "Learn to
>play Tejano/Conjunto Accordion" tentative release is late 2000
Gary, will this book focus on button accordion?
Mike
Gary Dahl
it will be written with PA in mind but notes are notes...I transcribed
the 15 Tex-Mex classics Arhoolie CD for the Mel Bay book with the same
name and played and wrote the same notes on my PA as I heard on the CD
from diatonic accordions. The book will be out in 2000. Tejano is rather
easy to play...generally 3 chords and broken chords...lots of dominant
7th.
EGWW
Flaco and Tim Alexander's video and audio from Homespun tapes