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Yamaha SY-77 vs. DX-7???

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Brad Behm

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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I'm looking into buying a keyboard/synth but don't have much experience.
What is the difference between a DX-7 and an SY-77? Do they each excell in
their own field or is one clearly superior or what?

I'd appreciate any info>>>>>>>>


Thanks,
Jacob Behm
brad...@metigoshe.ndak.net


John Brandwood

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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Bob Cardone wrote:
>
> >>I'm looking into buying a keyboard/synth but don't have much experience.
> >>What is the difference between a DX-7 and an SY-77? Do they each excell in
> >>their own field or is one clearly superior or what?
> >>
> >>I'd appreciate any info>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >The Sy-77 adds a lot more to the 6-op fm synthesis engine of the Dx-7.
> >It's multitimbral, has effects, a disc drive, resonant filters, and
> >other stuff I cant think of right now. Plus, it also has a sample
> >playback synthesis engine. By combining the two different types of
> >synthesis into a single sound, you can come up with some great stuff.
> >
> >There is a program out there that can convert dx7 sounds for use in a
> >sy77. Since SY77's seem to be selling pretty cheaply these days, I
> >don't know why anyone would choose a DX7 instead. Although I never
> >owned a DX7, so maybe I'm missing something.
>
> I had a DX7 years ago and traded it many years ago for a Yamaha SY85.
> The DX7 was good in it's day, but it is really old technology at this
> point. The SY85 is sort of an update on the SY77 and it can be had
> relatively inexpensively now.
>
> Bob Cardone

If I remember correctly, the DX7 was a 16-voice FM synth.

A couple of years later is was replaced by the DX7-II, which was still
16-voices, but has a cleaner 16-bit signal.

Then in 1989, the SY77 arrived. 16-voice AFM (advanced-FM), plus
16-voice
of sample-based synthesis, filters, and a 20-bit output. Basically, it
can
do anything that the DX7 can do, and much, much more, i.e. more FM
algorithms,
more FM waveforms, mixed FM and AWM sounds, and effects.

The SY/TG55 was the digital half of the SY/TG77 without the FM.

The SY85/TG500 was 2 SY/TG55s in a box with more sample rom and better
quality
samples.

I owned a TG500 for about 1 week before getting rid of it.

OTOH, I still own (and wouldn't sell) a TG77 and SY99 (the SY77s
big-brother).

As for the following ...

> The DX7 was good in it's day, but it is really old technology at this
> point. The SY85 is sort of an update on the SY77 and it can be had

The Moog, the ARP Odyssey, and everything used in an orchestra are also
old
technology.

The criteria should be the quality of the sounds themselves, and not the
age
of the instruments.

The DX7 and SY77 are expressive instruments with lots of 'classic'
sounds, the
TG500 IMHO was not.

Between the DX7 and the SY77, it would be well worth the extra dollars
to buy
and SY77.

Just my thoughts,

John.

Jason

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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Bob Cardone

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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j_s...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:

Douglas C White

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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One correction on this discussion...

The SY 85 has no FM capabilities. It is a Sample player only. It does
have FM samples but does not have the FM abilities of the SY-77 or the
DX-7. It was intended for a different purpose.

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Ian Kemmish

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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In article <6emldb$r8l$1...@news.ispn.net>, brad...@metigoshe.ndak.net says...

>
>I'm looking into buying a keyboard/synth but don't have much experience.
>What is the difference between a DX-7 and an SY-77? Do they each excell in
>their own field or is one clearly superior or what?

On paper, the AFM synthesis in the SY-77 and SY-99 is a strict superset of
what's implemented in the DX-7. However, they have a) changed the range over
which some of the voice parameters range (on the DX-7, nearly everything goes
from 0 to 100, on the SY-77/99, many parameters are powers of two, and some
important things are only 0 to 64 or 32), and b) changed something interal
(more bits of precision somewhere?). DON'T expect a DX-7 voice to translate
perfectly onto a SY-77 - it was after I got my SY-99 that I decided to hang
onto my DX-7 purely for the sake of some of the voices that I couldn't
duplicate!

If you can't decide which to get, then you might consider a TX-7 *and* a
TG-77 and a master keyboard....

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José M. Lugo Emanuelli

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