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Giardinelli GS812 alto sax - any good?

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Doug Miller

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Nov 8, 2006, 6:14:00 PM11/8/06
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Looking for a sax for my son, who's a college freshman and music major. He's
been playing for several years, and has outgrown his starter sax. The price
sure looks good on the Giardinelli, but I can't find any reviews online. Only
a handful of web retailers list it, and I can't find *any* brick-and-mortar
dealers where we could go to check one out. Any help at all would be
appreciated.

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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Mark Bushaw

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Nov 8, 2006, 7:40:02 PM11/8/06
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Find out what make his teacher prefers, and buy it. It will make life
much easier.

Mark Bushaw

Stephen Howard

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Nov 9, 2006, 6:53:51 AM11/9/06
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:40:02 GMT, Mark Bushaw <MBu...@aol.com> wrote:

>Find out what make his teacher prefers, and buy it. It will make life
>much easier.
>

How about finding out what the player prefers?

Regards,


>
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> Looking for a sax for my son, who's a college freshman and music major. He's
>> been playing for several years, and has outgrown his starter sax. The price
>> sure looks good on the Giardinelli, but I can't find any reviews online. Only
>> a handful of web retailers list it, and I can't find *any* brick-and-mortar
>> dealers where we could go to check one out. Any help at all would be
>> appreciated.
>>

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Mark Bushaw

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Nov 9, 2006, 5:45:19 PM11/9/06
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Often, in the USA, a teacher will show extreme prejudice against a
horn/player that they don't approve of. It can get pretty nasty, to
include refusal to be in the top bands unless the student changes brand
to 'match' the section. After college, if the player is still
interested (many times people seem to get the music beaten out of them
in school), there will be time to get the horn the player wants.
Like I said, it will make life much easier (maybe not as enjoyable).

Mark Bushaw

Stephen Howard

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Nov 9, 2006, 6:05:34 PM11/9/06
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:45:19 GMT, Mark Bushaw <MBu...@aol.com> wrote:

>Often, in the USA, a teacher will show extreme prejudice against a
>horn/player that they don't approve of. It can get pretty nasty, to
>include refusal to be in the top bands unless the student changes brand
>to 'match' the section. After college, if the player is still
>interested (many times people seem to get the music beaten out of them
>in school), there will be time to get the horn the player wants.
>Like I said, it will make life much easier (maybe not as enjoyable).
>

Phew, what a gyp!

I sometimes have calls from worried parents who've been told to get
'such-and-such' an instrument by their childrens' teacher, and in most
cases it's sensible advice ( Yamaha, Trevor James etc. ), but every
now and then there are issues about what 'not' to get - where parents
are being told to buy relatively expensive instruments before the
child has blown note one.
I give them the advice they need, then tell the caller that if they
have any problems they're to tell the teacher to call me...or, even
better, give me the teacher's number and I'll call them.

Regards,

--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations

http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk

Mark Bushaw

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Nov 9, 2006, 6:22:44 PM11/9/06
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Stephen Howard wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:45:19 GMT, Mark Bushaw <MBu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Often, in the USA, a teacher will show extreme prejudice against a
>> horn/player that they don't approve of. It can get pretty nasty, to
>> include refusal to be in the top bands unless the student changes brand
>> to 'match' the section. After college, if the player is still
>> interested (many times people seem to get the music beaten out of them
>> in school), there will be time to get the horn the player wants.
>> Like I said, it will make life much easier (maybe not as enjoyable).
>>
>
> Phew, what a gyp!
>
> I sometimes have calls from worried parents who've been told to get
> 'such-and-such' an instrument by their childrens' teacher, and in most
> cases it's sensible advice ( Yamaha, Trevor James etc. ), but every
> now and then there are issues about what 'not' to get - where parents
> are being told to buy relatively expensive instruments before the
> child has blown note one.
> I give them the advice they need, then tell the caller that if they
> have any problems they're to tell the teacher to call me...or, even
> better, give me the teacher's number and I'll call them.
>
> Regards,
>

That's all good for the younger players. The original poster was asking
for a freshman in college.

Mark Bushaw

Stephen Howard

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Nov 9, 2006, 6:49:28 PM11/9/06
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>


>That's all good for the younger players. The original poster was asking
>for a freshman in college.
>

He's stuffed then...unless he knows someone who'll have it out with
his teacher ;)

Doug Miller

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Nov 9, 2006, 7:37:06 PM11/9/06
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In article <tef7l257ma2m9fm91...@4ax.com>, Stephen Howard <sees...@email.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:22:44 GMT, Mark Bushaw <MBu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Stephen Howard wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:45:19 GMT, Mark Bushaw <MBu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Phew, what a gyp!
>>>
>>> I sometimes have calls from worried parents who've been told to get
>>> 'such-and-such' an instrument by their childrens' teacher, and in most
>>> cases it's sensible advice ( Yamaha, Trevor James etc. ), but every
>>> now and then there are issues about what 'not' to get - where parents
>>> are being told to buy relatively expensive instruments before the
>>> child has blown note one.
>>> I give them the advice they need, then tell the caller that if they
>>> have any problems they're to tell the teacher to call me...or, even
>>> better, give me the teacher's number and I'll call them.
>
>>
>>That's all good for the younger players. The original poster was asking
>>for a freshman in college.
>>
>He's stuffed then...unless he knows someone who'll have it out with
>his teacher ;)

Fer cryin' out loud -- will somebody just tell me if the horn is any good or
not?!

Stephen Howard

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Nov 9, 2006, 8:11:17 PM11/9/06
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:37:06 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Don't know.....but it competes on price with Yamaha and Yanagisawa
horns, and if you don't at least have a look at their models you'd be
bonkers.

Tom Mc

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Nov 9, 2006, 10:19:26 PM11/9/06
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I experienced what you described - my teacher in the 70's thought I should
get a King Super 20, but I bought a Mark 6 and he was so po'ed things were
never the same between us again.

"Mark Bushaw" <MBu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Stephen Howard

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Nov 10, 2006, 4:38:42 AM11/10/06
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:19:26 GMT, "Tom Mc" <temcc...@juno.com>
wrote:

>I experienced what you described - my teacher in the 70's thought I should
>get a King Super 20, but I bought a Mark 6 and he was so po'ed things were
>never the same between us again.

"Saxist" teachers eh? Pah!!

Regards,


>
>"Mark Bushaw" <MBu...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:3cO4h.4869$ig4....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Often, in the USA, a teacher will show extreme prejudice against a
>> horn/player that they don't approve of. It can get pretty nasty, to
>> include refusal to be in the top bands unless the student changes brand to
>> 'match' the section. After college, if the player is still interested
>> (many times people seem to get the music beaten out of them in school),
>> there will be time to get the horn the player wants.
>> Like I said, it will make life much easier (maybe not as enjoyable).
>>
>

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Stephen Howard

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Nov 17, 2006, 10:20:44 AM11/17/06
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:14:00 GMT, spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>Looking for a sax for my son, who's a college freshman and music major. He's

>been playing for several years, and has outgrown his starter sax. The price
>sure looks good on the Giardinelli, but I can't find any reviews online. Only
>a handful of web retailers list it, and I can't find *any* brick-and-mortar
>dealers where we could go to check one out. Any help at all would be
>appreciated.

I was looking through my photo store today and came across a couple of
photos I'd taken of a Giardinelli tenor. I'd written some brief notes,
which basically said "It's a rebadged Corton ( Czech built student
tenor ), not very nice".

On that basis I'd be very cautious.

Regards,

Grumps

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Nov 17, 2006, 12:32:01 PM11/17/06
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Doug Miller wrote:
> Looking for a sax for my son, who's a college freshman and music major...The price
> sure looks good on the Giardinelli...

If it's money you want to save, then I'd suggest buying a reputable
professional model saxophone second hand rather than a cheap new horn.
For a college music major, you can't go wrong with a used Selmer Series
II (alto?). And what with all the other newer Selmer horns on the
market (Series III, Reference 54, Hummingbird, etc...), used II altos
can be had for around $1,500 (US).

Sponge...@gmail.com

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Nov 26, 2006, 4:54:05 PM11/26/06
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Musiciansfriend.com, Gidadenelli.com, Guitarcenter.com, musicians.com,
all the same company and sites are clones of one another... Check all
sites as some may have coupons and better prices. Gidadenelli is their
house brand. Might be good...I have no idea..

For the money, I'd stick with a Yamaha 62II....why risk it? If you
like the silver of the Giradelli...get the Yamaha in silver...

I think Musiciansfriend has the better prices....

Good cust. service...main complaint was that my sax was
backordered....they must not stock them...but prices seem pretty
good...

Sponge...@gmail.com

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Nov 26, 2006, 4:59:44 PM11/26/06
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Oh...and by the way....

As great as the silver Yamahas look and unlacquereds look...they
require a HUGE amount of polishing and wipedown after every use....

More than normal...

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