Plasticover reeds good?
Jim Kroger
Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them, and though somebody told me
jazz players prefer them to normal cane reeds, I would think if that was
true, they would be carried at more places.
Thanks,
Jim
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The author is singularly responsible for the contents of this
message; they do not reflect any opinion of the organizations
sponsoring this net account.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
sh...@remove.execpc.com
On Thu, 03 Apr 1997 21:21:37 -0800, kro...@ucla.edu (Jim Kroger)
wrote:
>Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them, and though somebody told me
>jazz players prefer them to normal cane reeds, I would think if that was
>true, they would be carried at more places.
>
I use Plasticovers for all four of my horns, (the cane reeds used to
dry out a lot during live performance). I find that I have adjusted
well to the slightly "brighter" tone quality, and they last longer and
play very consistantly throughout their useful life.
I usually order 5-10 of each, Soprano, Alto, Tenor, and Bari; and
CHECK them thoroughly when I pick them up, (hopefully your vendor will
get a whole box if you promise to buy them in time...). I have also
found that I play about 1/2 grade softer on Plasticotes than on cane
reeds, it seems that the coating makes them a little firmer, but it
also keeps them together longer. Play on...
alger
James Carter used them in all his saxes yesterday I saw him in concert
it was a real demostration about what we can do with the saxs but
any way he use 2.5 for the alto (I am not sure) and 3 for the tenor
(I am sure) and he
treat them bad with all that slapping that he use and I think also
David Liebman and Paquito de Rivera neverthless they are also trying
the Fibracell reed.
Guillermo Alger
Toulouse France.
DomD
Jim Kroger wrote:
>
> Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them
I play primarily in blues and R&B groups as well as jazz and even
country and the Plasticover reeds certainly work well for me. They are
available at the music stores in New England that I frequent.
Saxman
Tnrmadness
James Carter uses the Rico Plastic covers...
-greg
Jim Kroger
Who is James Carter?
Jim
In article <19970406054...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
tnrma...@aol.com (Tnrmadness) wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
funk...@sprynet.com
In article <kroger-0304...@ts25-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu>,
kro...@ucla.edu (Jim Kroger) wrote:
>
> Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them, and though somebody told me
> jazz players prefer them to normal cane reeds, I would think if that was
> true, they would be carried at more places.
>
> Jim
Jim - you'd better look for a better shop - I find Plasticovers to be
really useful - especially for doubling. They sound and feel much
better than the plastic and synthetic reeds and work "right away" Pretty
bright though, so keep that in mind too...
BTW, plenty of pros use these reeds...
Jeff
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Wade Johnson
Hi Jim:
Go to the local music store, look in the bin labeled JAZZ. In that bin
look for a CD with a young man holding a silver plated tenor with Lawton
mouthpiece on it. Buy the CD, go home and strap in and listen to it.
Then you will know.
Wade
Tnrmadness
James Carter is one of the BEST young tenor players out there. He's
on the Kansas City Soundtrack. To start with, I'd get Jurassic CLassics,
or JC On The Set.
His playing is a little different than most players. I guess the
best way to describe him is "Ben Webster with a big edge."
-greg
Andrew Raff
The artist formerly known as tnrma...@aol.com (Tnrmadness) wrote:
> James Carter is one of the BEST young tenor players out there. He's
>on the Kansas City Soundtrack. To start with, I'd get Jurassic CLassics,
>or JC On The Set.
> His playing is a little different than most players. I guess the
>best way to describe him is "Ben Webster with a big edge."
The boy can play! Carter is a phenominal sax (he plays SATand B, as
well as clarinet, bass clarinet, flute, and bass flute) player. I saw
him a few weeks ago here in Boston, which was one of the best shows
I've seen in a while. (although Chick Corea tonight was cool). Carter
uses a LOT of "effects"-- altissimo, "squonking" but still can play
rough, fast, or smooth. In fact, he can even play a whole tune solo--
playing the melody and bass on sax (like a bass note on a downbeat and
tune for the others) and keeping a rhythym with his feet and fingers
(while he's playing). He's definately worth checking out because he
can really play.
heddy Boubaker
<> "Andrew" == Andrew Raff <ar...@tufts.edu> writes:
Andrew> The boy can play! Carter is a phenominal sax (he plays SATand B, as
Andrew> well as clarinet, bass clarinet, flute, and bass flute) player. I saw
Andrew> him a few weeks ago here in Boston, which was one of the best shows
Andrew> I've seen in a while. (although Chick Corea tonight was cool). Carter
Andrew> uses a LOT of "effects"-- altissimo, "squonking" but still can play
Andrew> rough, fast, or smooth. In fact, he can even play a whole tune solo--
Andrew> playing the melody and bass on sax (like a bass note on a downbeat and
Andrew> tune for the others) and keeping a rhythym with his feet and fingers
Andrew> (while he's playing). He's definately worth checking out because he
Andrew> can really play.
Yes Andrew is right on this point, JC is one of (if not THE best) best sax
player of the moment, he's technicaly near the very best top. I saw him last
week here in Toulouse France and it was a great sax demo. But that's the point
JC is a really good interpreter, an excellent technician mastering the
intrument as very few players was never able to do but what of the music ? Ok
he's mastering the harmony, the scales ... all the technical aspects of the
music too but what of the >Musicality< ? I know 3 CD of him, he's able to play
everything from Pres to Braxton but he's not a great composer and if his solos
are some great pieces of technique - demos? - there is something missing,
something you can find sometimes in other actual great sax players like
Marsalis (Branford) or Coleman (Steve). Something of magic, something of
innovative ... Yes every saxophonist, whatever his level, should go to a JC
Set just to take the sax lesson of his life but is he really somebody we could
be inspired of ?
Don't misunderstood me this is not a fight against JC, he's great, I really
think he's the best sax technician ever, yes better than Bird or Trane or
whoever you like (this is a little bit provocative but that's my point of
view), I'm a little piece of half microbe regarding to him, but for the moment
he don't have *HIS* music (IMNSHO) that's all.
- heddy -
--
-*- From the last station before the end of the Net -*-
-*- Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne, div PII -*-
-*- 7, av Edouard BELIN - 31055 TOULOUSE CEDEX - FRANCE -*-
-*- Tel:(+33)05.62.25.95.22 -*- Fax:(+33)05.62.25.95.99 -*-
Dallas Koehn
Jim Kroger wrote:
>
> Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them, and though somebody told me
> jazz players prefer them to normal cane reeds, I would think if that was
> true, they would be carried at more places.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> The author is singularly responsible for the contents of this
> message; they do not reflect any opinion of the organizations
> sponsoring this net account.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not a lot of pros around here use them, but kids do seem to like them
for marching band. There are a few rock sax players that use them.
Anyway, we have them, we have a lot of them.
I'd love to sell them to you, we do a lot of mail order business
for a store our size. Give us a call on our 1-800 number.
Page Underwood
--
Tulsa Band Instruments, Inc.
mailto:Tul...@ionet.net
http://members.tripod.com/~tulsaband
(800)564-1676
Noah Osnos
Ernie Watts plays Fibrecell exclusively.
> > Do pros use these? Nobody seems to carry them, and though somebody told
me
> > jazz players prefer them to normal cane reeds, I would think if that
was
> > true, they would be carried at more places.
> Not a lot of pros around here use them, but kids do seem to like them
Soup Nazi
I have been using the Fibracell reeds for about a year and a half now and am happy with them.
Terry Landry
Jim Kroger <kro...@ucla.edu> wrote in article
<kroger-0304...@ts25-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu>...
> Do pros use these?
Yes, depending on what the pro is looking for. Currently our Plasticover
artist roster at Rico includes Pete Christlieb (although he's now also
using Select JAZZ), Plas Johnson, Dave Koz, Tom Scott, Sam Butera. Lots of
studio doublers here in L.A. have used them for years, because you don't
have to fiddle with them much when you're doing a lot of fast instrument
changes. Pop players like them because of the bright sound and projection.
Also, they're a bit less susceptible to changes in climate.
Terry Landry
Rico Int'l
Terry Landry
Noah Osnos <Noah_...@TommyBoy.com> wrote in article
<01bc45c3$19356440$e357...@tboynt1.tommyboy>...
> Ernie Watts plays Fibrecell exclusively.
Sorry, Noah, you've got your synthetics confused. Ernie plays Fibercane
(which is a defunct company, whose entire stock of tenor #2s Ernie
purchased as they were going out of business) on tenor, but cane reeds on
his other axes. (I'm not sure which brand he uses, probably VanDoren or
MARCA, but he's not using our stuff.)
And for the record, Fibracell is a completely synthetic product (made of
pressed Kevlar fibers) and is manufactured by a different company than Rico
Plasticover, which is a plastic-coated cane reed.
SirCoder
Question: Can the Plasticover reeds be sanded to personal preferences?
Jonathan SirCoder
Terry Landry
SirCoder <sirc...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970417034...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Question: Can the Plasticover reeds be sanded to personal preferences?
I don't recommend it, because by sanding, you remove the plastic and the
benefits from same. However, I wouldn't describe sanding as actually
harmful, unless done inappropriately, like on the bottom flat surface,
which should never be sanded on any reed as it makes the tip too thin.
Always adjust your reeds on the upper surface of the vamp cut. (Please hold
flames about sanding. These are recommendations only.)