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Stevesax68

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Jun 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/7/97
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I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really bad
experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
Thanks,
Stevesax68@AOL

Paul Lindemeyer

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Jun 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/7/97
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Douglas Rhodes wrote:
>
> Stevesax68 (steve...@aol.com) wrote:
> : I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
> I am sure I would not be alone in recommending Gayle Fredenburgh in
> Florida as a first-rate source for vintage saxes. I recently purchased a
> horn from her that was precisely as she had described it to me by phone
> and fax, the price was fair and reasonable, the packing for FedEx shipment
> was superb. This was a sight-unseen deal for a substantial amount of
> money, but there was never any moment when I worried that I might not get
> my money's worth. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.
>
> She can be reached by email at:
>
> vinta...@badsector.com
>
> or by telephone at:
>
> 904-689-1126
>
> Tell her I sent you.

I can recommend Gayle as well. She's sold me five horns in as many
years, each as advertised and fairly priced. The 5-day approval policy
doesn't hurt any, either.

And the inventory she has will put a smile on your face (ask for her
quarterly lists). I don't know where she gets 'em...but she gets 'em.
And she doesn't hit you over the head for them, either.

--

Paul Lindemeyer (pau...@gannett.infi.net)
_______________________________________________________

CELEBRATING THE SAXOPHONE: An Illustrated History
At your local bookseller from William Morrow & Co.

Howard

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Jun 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/7/97
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In article <5nctpb$3pi$1...@sanjuan.islandnet.com>, drh...@islandnet.com
says...

> Stevesax68 (steve...@aol.com) wrote:
> : I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
> : selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really bad
> : experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
> : Thanks,
> : Stevesax68@AOL
>
> I am sure I would not be alone in recommending Gayle Fredenburgh in
> Florida as a first-rate source for vintage saxes. I recently purchased a
> horn from her that was precisely as she had described it to me by phone
> and fax, the price was fair and reasonable, the packing for FedEx shipment
> was superb. This was a sight-unseen deal for a substantial amount of
> money, but there was never any moment when I worried that I might not get
> my money's worth. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.
>
> She can be reached by email at:
>
> vinta...@badsector.com
>
> or by telephone at:
>
> 904-689-1126
>
> Tell her I sent you.
>
> Doug Rhodes
> Victoria, BC Canada
>
>
I also can most highly recommend Gayle. She is knowledgeable and fair,
and I have had only good experiences with her. She also makes periodic
mailings of available saxes, from nino to bass, if you give her your
address.

Howard

Jim Kroger

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Jun 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/7/97
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I third this motion. I have spoken with her on the phone and
in email. She is very non-hype, helpful, and nice. I have not
bought a horn from her yet, but when I'm sure what I want,
I will check out her inventory.

I also like Wichita band instruments, they are also very helpful
and nice and have good inventories for fair prices.

USA Horn in New Jersey has a really good rep but I have not found
their net behavior nearly as impressive as the above two. Their
prices are also much higher than the above dealers. They do
offer a year garauntee though, I don't think either of the above
do.

I shy away from dealers who do not post prices with their inventory.
Doesn't mean anything is wrong, but I just feel better about dealers
who post their prices. VintageSax and Wichita both post prices.

Jim


In article <3399D9...@gannett.infi.net>, pau...@gannett.infi.net wrote:

| Douglas Rhodes wrote:
| >
| > Stevesax68 (steve...@aol.com) wrote:
| > : I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
| > : selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really bad
| > : experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
| > : Thanks,
| > : Stevesax68@AOL
| >
| > I am sure I would not be alone in recommending Gayle Fredenburgh in
| > Florida as a first-rate source for vintage saxes. I recently purchased a
| > horn from her that was precisely as she had described it to me by phone
| > and fax, the price was fair and reasonable, the packing for FedEx shipment
| > was superb. This was a sight-unseen deal for a substantial amount of
| > money, but there was never any moment when I worried that I might not get
| > my money's worth. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.
| >
| > She can be reached by email at:
| >
| > vinta...@badsector.com
| >
| > or by telephone at:
| >
| > 904-689-1126
| >
| > Tell her I sent you.
|

| I can recommend Gayle as well. She's sold me five horns in as many
| years, each as advertised and fairly priced. The 5-day approval policy
| doesn't hurt any, either.
|
| And the inventory she has will put a smile on your face (ask for her
| quarterly lists). I don't know where she gets 'em...but she gets 'em.
| And she doesn't hit you over the head for them, either.
|
| --
|
| Paul Lindemeyer (pau...@gannett.infi.net)
| _______________________________________________________
|
| CELEBRATING THE SAXOPHONE: An Illustrated History
| At your local bookseller from William Morrow & Co.

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Douglas Rhodes

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Jun 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/8/97
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Stevesax68 (steve...@aol.com) wrote:
: I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
: selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really bad
: experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
: Thanks,
: Stevesax68@AOL

I am sure I would not be alone in recommending Gayle Fredenburgh in
Florida as a first-rate source for vintage saxes. I recently purchased a
horn from her that was precisely as she had described it to me by phone
and fax, the price was fair and reasonable, the packing for FedEx shipment
was superb. This was a sight-unseen deal for a substantial amount of
money, but there was never any moment when I worried that I might not get
my money's worth. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.

She can be reached by email at:

vinta...@badsector.com

or by telephone at:

904-689-1126

Tell her I sent you.

Doug Rhodes
Victoria, BC Canada


Gary L. Smith

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steve...@aol.com (Stevesax68) wrote:

> I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
>selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really bad
>experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
> Thanks,
> Stevesax68@AOL

Let me put a plug in for Charles Fail Music in Marietta, GA. They have
a web page at:

www.charlesfail.com

and primarily do web/mail order. Since I live relatively close to Atl,
I came and got the horn I ordered from them. They have a great shop,
they had completely gone through the sax I bought and replaced every
pad and cork on the whole thing (and put it in a like-new hard case)
and they let me try a bunch of mouthpieces before I bought the horn
and mouthpiece I wanted.

What was really impressive in my case was that I'm a doubler (mainly
clarinet and tenor sax) and just needed an inexpensive alto to round
out my arsenal. You expect the above level of service when you're
buying an old Selmer for $2500, but they did all this for a Martin
Indiana that they sold for $400. Charles said "I gave you the horn and
charged you for the work," and I tend to just about believe him...

Eric Dannewitz

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Jun 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/8/97
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In article <kroger-0706...@ts43-8.wla.ts.ucla.edu>,
kro...@ucla.edu (Jim Kroger) wrote:

>USA Horn in New Jersey has a really good rep but I have not found
>their net behavior nearly as impressive as the above two. Their
>prices are also much higher than the above dealers. They do
>offer a year garauntee though, I don't think either of the above
>do.
>

I must say that USA horn is really responsive on the net. I corresponded
with them when I was interested in getting a Mark VI tenor, and they
really got me a great horn......

--
**************************************
"Do it tomorrow - you've made enough mistakes for today!"

Eric Dannewitz - Adventurer, saxophonist, good-timer (crook? quite possibly), clarinetist, manic self-publicist, part-time flautist(flutist?), macintosher, and often thought to be completely out to lunch.
Homepage at http://www.ccnet.com/~ericdano
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BandNuts

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Jun 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/9/97
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In article <19970607232...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
steve...@aol.com (Stevesax68) writes:

> I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great
>selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really
bad
>experience with any particular company. Let me know..........


I favor the work and horn quality of Charles Fail Music... He is in the
Atlanta area, but, sells world wide. His web sight is:

http://www.charlesfail.com

You may want to call him also, his number is listed on the web sight. He
has a lot more horns than he has listed.

Karl and Heather
Band...@aol.com

Barry B. Bean

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Jun 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/9/97
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On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 00:29:34 -0700, Brent Lawson wrote:

>http://www.saxophone.org/USAHORN/
>http://www.wichitaband.com/
>http://www.worldvista.com/JoeSax/
>http://www.charlesfail.com/

I couldn't help but notice that our friend in New Orleans hasn't been
mentioned in this thread. Although I wouldn't want my little sister to stand
within 100 feet of him after dark, I'd recommend checking out Steve Goodson's
shop in New Orleans or on the WWW. You can get a quick glance at
http://www.saxgourmet.com.

Another dealer worth checking out is Steve Fowler. His website is at
http://www.netcom.com/~sfowler/fms.html.

BBB


Steve Goodson

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Jun 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/9/97
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I thought we agreed to quit arguin' about yo' sister! By the way, when's
she comin' back to N'Awlins?

sa...@mindspring.com

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of
you that have bought at USA horn. This is the kind of stupid stuff
that only seems to go on in these newsgroups but never out in the real
world when you meet other real players and converse face to face and
nobody has anything to gain by sucking up to any dealer!!!!

Barry B. Bean

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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:35:49 GMT, sa...@mindspring.com wrote:

>I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
>giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
>kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
>as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
>about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
>service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of
>you that have bought at USA horn.

This is such a run-on sentence that I can't tell if you're trashing or
praising USA Horn.

Who's DR? He wouldn't happen to have an MD (mouthpiece dude) degree, would
he?

BBB
--
B.B. Bean bbb...@beancotton.com
Peach Orchard, MO http://www.beancotton.com/bbbean.shtml
Music: http://www.beancotton.com/music.shtml
Ag: http://www.beancotton.com/

Steve Carmichael

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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My God man ! Speak english !
Steve

sa...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
> giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
> kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
> as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
> about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
> service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of

Eric Dannewitz

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>I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
>giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
>kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
>as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
>about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
>service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of
>you that have bought at USA horn. This is the kind of stupid stuff
>that only seems to go on in these newsgroups but never out in the real
>world when you meet other real players and converse face to face and
>nobody has anything to gain by sucking up to any dealer!!!!

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say here. All I said was
that I corresponded with Brian from USA horn, and was in the market for a
Mark VI Tenor. I had recently purchased a Mark VI Alto from a friend who
had bought it through USA horn. It was to replace his other Mark VI which
he was stolen and he thought lost. He got the horn back and then had 2
mark VI altos.

I mentioned this to Brian in my email, and he remembered the horn, but did
not have anything at the moment. A few days later I got a message from him
about a Tenor they had, and he thought it was a good match for the Alto.
And it is. Brian actually said the horn played like a 10 and looked like
an 8 (out of 10). It has pretty much all the lacquer there, so I'd say it
is more like a 9.

I do not think I'm "Sucking up" to anyone. I am just giving my opinion and
tell people who care to read this that USA Horn, in my case, did an
excellent job in delivering what they said they had. I had tried some mark
VI tenors from local dealers here in the SF Bay Area, but they were
expensive and really not that great.

--
**************************************
"Revenge is like biting a dog because the dog bit you."

Ted Williams

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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Barry B. Bean wrote:
>
> On Mon, 09 Jun 1997 00:29:34 -0700, Brent Lawson wrote:
>
> >http://www.saxophone.org/USAHORN/
> >http://www.wichitaband.com/
> >http://www.worldvista.com/JoeSax/
> >http://www.charlesfail.com/
>
> I couldn't help but notice that our friend in New Orleans hasn't been
> mentioned in this thread. Although I wouldn't want my little sister to stand
> within 100 feet of him after dark, I'd recommend checking out Steve Goodson's
> shop in New Orleans or on the WWW. You can get a quick glance at
> http://www.saxgourmet.com
>
> Another dealer worth checking out is Steve Fowler. His website is at
> http://www.netcom.com/~sfowler/fms.html
>
> BBB


I'm biased in this matter because I worked at this place, don't anymore
though..still a customer. Fourwinds Music in San Jose (408) 269-5454 They
are always getting in good vintage stuff....they have a website..I think
it might be WWW.4windsmusic.com ...but I'm not sure. Ted

Jim Kroger

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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In article <ericdano-100...@208.128.219.2>, eric...@isp.net
(Eric Dannewitz) wrote:

| In article <339d72c0...@news.mindspring.com>, sa...@mindspring.com wrote:
|
| >I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
| >giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
| >kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
| >as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
| >about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
| >service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of
| >you that have bought at USA horn. This is the kind of stupid stuff
| >that only seems to go on in these newsgroups but never out in the real
| >world when you meet other real players and converse face to face and
| >nobody has anything to gain by sucking up to any dealer!!!!
|
I

I don't know where you're coming from. USA Horn is (deservedly) very
well regarded on this newsgroup.

If you really want to help people, tell us who "DR" is.

Jim

Craig Dickson

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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In article <339D07...@etalk.com>, Ted Williams <te...@etalk.com> wrote:

>I'm biased in this matter because I worked at this place, don't anymore
>though..still a customer. Fourwinds Music in San Jose (408) 269-5454 They
>are always getting in good vintage stuff....they have a website..I think
>it might be WWW.4windsmusic.com ...but I'm not sure. Ted

That WWW address is correct.

I've also done business with Four Winds. I recommend them highly.

Craig

Michael L. Sparacino, DO

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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I can vouch for her as well. I bought a Conn bass and a MVI tenor with
absolutely no problem whatsoever. She even put me in touch with a bass
saxophonist who sent me a couple of CDs and advice on a mpc (for free!). I
try to do all my trading with Gayle.
Paul Lindemeyer wrote in article <3399D9...@gannett.infi.net>...

>Douglas Rhodes wrote:
>>
>> Stevesax68 (steve...@aol.com) wrote:
>> : I see so many music companies that advertice that they have a great

>> : selection of vintage saxes. But has anyone had a really good or really
bad
>> : experience with any particular company. Let me know..........
>> : Thanks,
>> : Stevesax68@AOL
>>
>> I am sure I would not be alone in recommending Gayle Fredenburgh in
>> Florida as a first-rate source for vintage saxes. I recently purchased
a
>> horn from her that was precisely as she had described it to me by phone
>> and fax, the price was fair and reasonable, the packing for FedEx
shipment
>> was superb. This was a sight-unseen deal for a substantial amount of
>> money, but there was never any moment when I worried that I might not
get
>> my money's worth. I couldn't be happier with the purchase.
>>
>> She can be reached by email at:
>>
>> vinta...@badsector.com
>>
>> or by telephone at:
>>
>> 904-689-1126
>>
>> Tell her I sent you.
>

Brent Lawson

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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I like FourWinds also...they are very nice and follow up the purchase
well.

**BRENT**

Paul Lindemeyer

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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sa...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> I have a hard time understanding those "players" out there that are
> giving rave reviews to some of the least reputalble dealers and out to
> kill dealers around and some of those that have burned as many players
> as our friend the notable "DR" and yet you do not give credit due to
> about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
> service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number of
> you that have bought at USA horn. This is the kind of stupid stuff
> that only seems to go on in these newsgroups but never out in the real
> world when you meet other real players and converse face to face and
> nobody has anything to gain by sucking up to any dealer!!!!

You obviously have strong feelings about dealers, and may even have some
point to make. Could you please try to express it more coherently? This
reads like you wrote it when you were purple in the face with rage. It
could at various points be either a flame or praise, and yet it is not
clear whom you intend to flame or praise.

Do the group a favor. Go back, think about what you really mean, and
post again. TIA.

Piotr Michalowski

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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In article <339F1C...@voyageronline.net> Brent Lawson <bla...@voyageronline.net> writes:
>
>I like FourWinds also...they are very nice and follow up the purchase
>well.

>**BRENT**

I just had the opportunity to deal with them and they are tthe real thing.
They do not gouge you, care about instruments and are always willing to follow
up. I give them an A.

Piotr

bbb...@sheltonlink.com

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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Neil Richmond

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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Jim Kroger wrote:

> I
>
> I don't know where you're coming from. USA Horn is (deservedly) very
> well regarded on this newsgroup.
>
> If you really want to help people, tell us who "DR" is.
>
> Jim


Read the message again Jim. Unless I misread, he gave major kudos
to USA Horn :

| >and yet you do not give credit due to
| >about the only place that really cares about giving you quality and
| >service and that has been not just my experience but quite a number
of
| >you that have bought at USA horn.

neil

--
" Give a skeptic an inch and he'll measure it. "
neil f. richmond ne...@fa.disney.com

Michael Dennison

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Jun 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/14/97
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I will also put in a vote for Charles Fail. I recently bought a King
Zephyr Bari that he had completely reworked (it would have probably been
given up for dead by a lesser man) and not only is it beautiful, it will
shake the rafters. And the price was VERY fair. I couldn't be more
pleased. Not only does he have a great selection of vintage 'original'
horns, he is a miracle worker, IMHO, when it comes to restoration and
rebuilding that classic horn you're looking for. AND he has integrity.
Give him a serious look.

Rink E. Dinkus

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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In article <5nmd15$d7k$1...@shell3.ba.best.com>, c...@best.com (Craig Dickson)
wrote:

> In article <339D07...@etalk.com>, Ted Williams <te...@etalk.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm biased in this matter because I worked at this place, don't anymore
> >though..still a customer. Fourwinds Music in San Jose (408) 269-5454 They
> >are always getting in good vintage stuff....they have a website..I think
> >it might be WWW.4windsmusic.com ...but I'm not sure. Ted
>
> That WWW address is correct.
>
> I've also done business with Four Winds. I recommend them highly.
>
> Craig

if you're lookin for the best person to buy a vintage horn from, write this guy:
"Mark C. Overton" <move...@cellbio.wustl.edu>
he is an absolute saint. so far, i've bought a soprano and a tenor from
him. both of these horns are among the best i've ever played. he's in st.
louis, mo.
pcl

Jim Kroger

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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I second this motion. In fact, my tenor should arrive from him any day! Yay!


Jim

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