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Sinfonia in D Major BWV 29

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Edward

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Feb 11, 2004, 8:57:56 AM2/11/04
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I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
get it?

TIA

Edward
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f_unde...@hotmail.com

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:18:39 PM2/11/04
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teddy...@hotmail.com (Edward) wrote in message news:<25080b60.04021...@posting.google.com>...

> I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
> of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
> I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
> get it?

Any editon of the 2 & 3 part inventions! I have the Alfred one, but
seriously, just walk into any music store and ask for "bach's 3 part
inventions". Or any online music store.

Niklas

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:22:12 PM2/11/04
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Maybe I can scan this for you but I need to know the exact name of the
symphony
It doesn't seem that there's a BWV 29 symhpony nor in my bach symhponies
book at least
Are you sure about the number ?

Niki


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Jose H. Nieto

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:57:51 PM2/11/04
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> I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
> of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
> I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
> get it?

Well, BWV 29 is a cantata (Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir).
I don't know if there is an arrangement for keyboard.
On the other hand, the D major Sinfonia is BWV 789.
If this is what you are looking for, you can download it from
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net

Best regards,

jhn


james

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Feb 11, 2004, 3:04:01 PM2/11/04
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In article <IgvWb.6068$HO2...@news.edisontel.com>,

Niklas <chip_...@email.it> wrote:
>
>
>Maybe I can scan this for you but I need to know the exact name of the
>symphony
>It doesn't seem that there's a BWV 29 symhpony nor in my bach symhponies

BWV 29 is one of the Cantatas. "Wir danken dir, Gott wir danken dir"

The O.P. is looking for a specific arrangement, as performed by Hewitt
on a very popular disc.


If you're not that picky about the arrangement, just play this one:

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Scores/BWV029-V&P.pdf


I wonder about the technique required for some of the LH trills that
also have a repeated bass note. I suppose you are meant to use your
foot.

f_unde...@hotmail.com

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:22:29 PM2/11/04
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> I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
> of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
> I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
> get it?
Sorry, I was half asleep when replying to your post. Somehow seeing
BWV 29 as a three digit BWV number :)

The bach CD from CD sheet music will have the original organ (?)
version
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?sku=PR.812200010&cart=32855048902294041&searchtitle=Sheet%20Music

Here's the prelude from the cantata arranged for solo piano
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?sku=AP.11-M202500873&cart=32855048902294041&searchtitle=Sheet%20Music

Another way is to download a midi of it from
www.classicalmusicarchives.com and open it in a midi notation
software.

Sorry that I can't find the Wilhelm Kempff arrangement.

Good luck.

Radu Focshaner

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:26:06 PM2/11/04
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"james" <fish...@conservatory.com> wrote in message
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> If you're not that picky about the arrangement, just play this one:
>
> http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Scores/BWV029-V&P.pdf

Geez... in my youth this used to be the prelude from the Violin Partita No.3
, BWV1006 (listen to Rachmaninoff playing his transcription of the
Preludio, Gavotte and Gigue).


Radu Focshaner

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:30:49 PM2/11/04
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<f_unde...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> The bach CD from CD sheet music will have the original organ (?)
> version

No. The CDSheetMusic disc contains "pianoforte" arrangements. (I think the
originals are for voices)


Mike Williams

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:49:09 PM2/11/04
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Edward wrote:
> I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
> of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
> I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
> get it?

I can send you some PDFs that include this arrangement - it's from a
collection of 10 Bach arrangements by Kempff. Your hotmail account may not
be able to stand attachments of that size though. Total of around ~2MB
spread over 3 files.


Jose H. Nieto

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Feb 11, 2004, 7:12:18 PM2/11/04
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> I can send you some PDFs that include this arrangement - it's from a
> collection of 10 Bach arrangements by Kempff. Your hotmail account may not
> be able to stand attachments of that size though. Total of around ~2MB
> spread over 3 files.

Could you please send me those files too?

I can offer other scores you want in exchange, some of them are listed at
:
http://www.pianofiles.com/member.php?id=47867

Best regards,

Jose H. Nieto


f_unde...@hotmail.com

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Feb 11, 2004, 10:03:06 PM2/11/04
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"Jose H. Nieto" <jhn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<c0e1bn$1648mo$1...@ID-187678.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> > I am listening to Angela Hewitt playing Wilhelm Kempff's arrangement
> > of Bach's Sinfonia in D major BWV 29. It is absolutely knockout, and
> > I'd love to get a copy of the sheet music. Anyone know where I could
> > get it?
>
> Well, BWV 29 is a cantata (Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir).
Is that what the cantata is called? Then you can find this in a
collection of JS Bach transcription by Kempff. It's "we thank you,
god, we thank you" in english.

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?sku=HL.50236300&cart=21121514637&searchtitle=Sheet%20Music

Edward

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Feb 12, 2004, 3:21:22 AM2/12/04
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"Mike Williams" <mike@nospam4me> wrote in message news:<402aa355$0$18303$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>...

The Kempff arrangement is exactly the one I was after, thank you. If
you would be kind enough to send your unmunged email address to my
hotmail spam trap (which you rightly surmise would not be able to
withstand ~2MB of PDF), I will send by return a useable email address
and would forever (or until I could return the favour) be in your
debt.

Edward

Alan Jones

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Feb 12, 2004, 3:42:18 AM2/12/04
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"james" <fish...@conservatory.com> wrote in message
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[...]

> BWV 29 is one of the Cantatas. "Wir danken dir, Gott wir danken dir"
>
> The O.P. is looking for a specific arrangement, as performed by Hewitt
> on a very popular disc.
>
> If you're not that picky about the arrangement, just play this one:
>
> http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Scores/BWV029-V&P.pdf
>
> I wonder about the technique required for some of the LH trills that
> also have a repeated bass note. I suppose you are meant to use your
> foot.

This download is of a vocal score for use by people singing the cantata, not
a piano reduction for performance (I write as a choral conductor). A
rehearsal pianist would normally improvise his or her own version based on
the printed reduction, omitting or modifying what is impossible and adding
bits of the voice parts where the (amateur) choir may be floundering, though
I don't suppose that the piano reduction of the Sinfonia ("overture") would
ever need to be played in rehearsal. If (very undesirable, though) a choir
were to perform the cantata with piano accompaniment only, the best solution
would be to contrive a piano duet or - better - a two-piano version, so that
the effect of the trumpets and timps cutting through the strings could be
more effectively conveyed without the need for virtuoso skills.

I've compared the download with the orchestral score, which to my surprise
has no trills at all of the kind shown in the reduction. The scoring is for
organ solo (no pedal staff, brilliantly florid treble figuration requiring
two manuals), and frenziedly busy strings with doubling oboes and bassoon,
punctuated by detached blasts from trumpets and timps. So the trills
against repeated bass notes seem to be the arranger's own invention. Or did
someone (old Bach edition?) add a continuo part distinct from the organ
solo, with trills which the arranger incorporated willynilly? Trills apart,
the piano reduction also has some melodic inner parts not in the original.

It would be interesting to know how Kempff represents these bars in his
version for performance.

Alan Jones

Mike Williams

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Feb 12, 2004, 8:22:58 AM2/12/04
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Edward wrote:
> The Kempff arrangement is exactly the one I was after, thank you. If
> you would be kind enough to send your unmunged email address to my
> hotmail spam trap (which you rightly surmise would not be able to
> withstand ~2MB of PDF), I will send by return a useable email address
> and would forever (or until I could return the favour) be in your
> debt.

Your account has bounced my mail (no attachments) several times. Since the
score is still in print and cheap to boot, perhaps it would be better to
simply order it.

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Dwight Munroe

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Feb 12, 2004, 4:56:30 PM2/12/04
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"Radu Focshaner" <ra...@writeme.com> wrote in message
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Yep. You'd have to get the Bach: Complete Church Cantatas for this one
movement of Cantata 29. (Not that that's a bad thing...)

As an aside, check http://www.byronhoyt.com and the Downloadable Classical
Music section. They have license from CD Sheet Music to offer individual
titles for a small fee.

dwight
theodore presser co


Edward

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Feb 13, 2004, 4:01:25 AM2/13/04
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"Mike Williams" <mike@nospam4me> wrote in message news:<402b7e32$0$4249$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>...

> Edward wrote:
> > The Kempff arrangement is exactly the one I was after, thank you. If
> > you would be kind enough to send your unmunged email address to my
> > hotmail spam trap (which you rightly surmise would not be able to
> > withstand ~2MB of PDF), I will send by return a useable email address
> > and would forever (or until I could return the favour) be in your
> > debt.
>
> Your account has bounced my mail (no attachments) several times. Since the
> score is still in print and cheap to boot, perhaps it would be better to
> simply order it.

I'm very sorry about that - it's really a spam trap, and boy does it
work. It is currently full of 144k warnings from "Microsoft" - you'd
think Hotmail would be able to delete these at source, since Microsoft
by their own admission never send security warnings out, but I guess
they want me to buy a Hotmail account. I can't afford this, and
neither can I afford the sheet music at present. O well, it's
somewhere beyond my present level of ability anyway.

Mike Williams

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Feb 13, 2004, 4:25:01 PM2/13/04
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Edward wrote:

> I'm very sorry about that - it's really a spam trap, and boy does it
> work. It is currently full of 144k warnings from "Microsoft" - you'd
> think Hotmail would be able to delete these at source, since Microsoft
> by their own admission never send security warnings out, but I guess
> they want me to buy a Hotmail account.

Set the account to only accept email from those in your address book and
check your junk mail folde regularly. I only get 2-3 per day and my hotmail
account is quite old.

Edward

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Feb 14, 2004, 6:06:52 AM2/14/04
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"Mike Williams" <mike@nospam4me> wrote in message news:<402d40ad$0$29129$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>...

> Edward wrote:
>
> > I'm very sorry about that - it's really a spam trap, and boy does it
> > work. It is currently full of 144k warnings from "Microsoft" - you'd
> > think Hotmail would be able to delete these at source, since Microsoft
> > by their own admission never send security warnings out, but I guess
> > they want me to buy a Hotmail account.
>
> Set the account to only accept email from those in your address book and
> check your junk mail folde regularly. I only get 2-3 per day and my hotmail
> account is quite old.

That's what I do, but I didn't know your email to put in my address
book, but my junk folder gets about 20 messages of 144k+ per day (it's
one of those damn viruses which has me in its sights) and I really
don't have the time to keep checking it. I have another hotmail
account that is not so vulnerable which is teddyswiftathotmaildotcom,
so if you are still agreeable to send your email address there, I can
send you my "real" address where I could receive a large mailing. Of
course, if you are bored senseless by all this, then I quite
understand.

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