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Yamaha P150 rumours and prices

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Gordon Gregory

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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After lots of thought and playing various electric pianos, I’ve decided to get a Yamaha P150 in
addition to my “acoustic piano”. Here in England they seem to sell for about 1200 UK pounds.

But now I hear a rumour! A salesman in Rose-Morris (Denmark Street, London) said on Saturday that
the P150 is due to be replaced in May by a P200. Two questions:

* Can anyone confirm the P200 rumour and is the May date correct?

* What levels of discount will there be on the P150, and how close to the May date will they
start to appear?

Any comments, informed or otherwise, would be great. TIA, Gordon

James Clayton

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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Gordon Gregory wrote:
> * Can anyone confirm the P200 rumour and is the May date correct?

I heard the same thing from a Toronto keyboard dealer just today.

> * What levels of discount will there be on the P150, and how close to the May date will they start to appear?

Didn't discuss a discount of P150's, but I was told the price on the
P200 would be pretty much the same as the P150. This is the same thing
they did when the P150 appeared - it cost the same as the P100. (In
Canada, anyhow.)

Jim Clayton

this antispam to reply]@gate.net Yuri Villanueva

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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Gordon Gregory wrote in message <34E9C4...@e-mail.com>...
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>* Can anyone confirm the P200 rumour and is the May date correct?...

That's no rumor, at least not here in the US. The P200 was at the Winter 98
NAMM. It's almost the same as the P150, but with 64-note polyphony, double
the sample memory, and a different keyboard action (graded hammer they call
it). Harmony Central has a full report on it:

http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM98/Yamaha/P200.html

I guess the May date is probably correct.

Gordon Gregory

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Thanks to James and Yuri for their responses on this; I'm now wondering
what way to go.

The P200 has 64 voice polyphony versus 32 on the P150. Any views on the
necessity for 64 voices? My playing will be largely real-time,
classical and possibly pop, with very little use of sequencing, will I
start to run out of polyphony? I guess not in solo playing without
layering sounds (which reduces the P150 to 16 voices), but layering or
playing 4 hand duets, might be an issue. An experiences or views would
be great.

Thanks, Gordon

John Brock

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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In article <34EC69...@e-mail.com>,

Gordon Gregory <ggrego...@e-mail.com> wrote:
>Thanks to James and Yuri for their responses on this; I'm now wondering
>what way to go.
>
>The P200 has 64 voice polyphony versus 32 on the P150. Any views on the
>necessity for 64 voices? My playing will be largely real-time,
>classical and possibly pop, with very little use of sequencing, will I
>start to run out of polyphony? I guess not in solo playing without
>layering sounds (which reduces the P150 to 16 voices), but layering or
>playing 4 hand duets, might be an issue. An experiences or views would
>be great.

Layering is a minor issue with me. I have a Technics PX-103 with 32
voice polyphony. On the whole I am very happy with it, but one of only
two or three minor irritants is the fact that if I combine two voices
(what I think you mean by layering) -- which I like to do occasionally
-- the polyphony is reduced to 16, and I can sometimes hear voices
cutting out when they shouldn't. This doesn't happen very often, and
as I said it's a minor issue, but then again there are only two other
minor issues I have ever had with the piano that I can think of right
now (one, the 2 level pedal, which I knew about when I bought the
piano, and two, the fact that certain combinations of two voices don't
work properly with the pedal, which is a bug, pure and simple), so in a
way the layering problem constitutes 33 percent of my total
dissatisfaction with the piano. I'd go for 64 voices if possible.
--
John Brock
jbr...@panix.com

Andrew Francis

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Gordon Gregory wrote:
> The P200 has 64 voice polyphony versus 32 on the P150. Any views on the
> necessity for 64 voices? My playing will be largely real-time,
> classical and possibly pop, with very little use of sequencing, will I
> start to run out of polyphony?

Hi Gordon. I believe the P150 polyphony drops from 32 to 16 notes when
playing the stereo sample 'piano 1'. I have a Yamaha p50 sound module
which also does this on the stereo samples. Overall I'm very pleased
with the piano sound but I do find 16 notes a bit limiting and I
sometimes hear note stealing. However I still choose to use the stereo
samples over the mono ones because they sound so much better.

There always seems to be something better coming out 'next month'
however it may be best to hold fire until the p200 appears then compare
the two and see if you can notice the extra polyphony. The p150 price
can only go down in the meantime.

Andrew

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