P90: a P120 without speakers?
bruce phipps
Also, could I connect computer speakers to the P90 for moderate volume
practice at home?
Presumably the P90 gives a line level output for connection to PA
systems etc.
Bruce
Yves Constantinidis
> Is the Yamaha P90 merely a P120 but without the built-in speakers?
Looks like a P120 software in a P80 case.
Dimentions and weight are exactly those of the P80.
Maybe the piano sampling is even better than the one in the P120.
> Also, could I connect computer speakers to the P90 for moderate volume
> practice at home?
Why not ? Of course, the sound quality will be "moderate", too.
But it is technically feasible, no problem.
> Presumably the P90 gives a line level output for connection to PA
> systems etc.
Yes.
Yves
Jeff
>
>Looks like a P120 software in a P80 case.
How did the P120 improve upon the P80's software?
And does the P90 have the same action as the P60/P80/P120?
Thanks,
Jeff
bruce phipps
I had a Clavinova but it was in no way portable.
> > Is the Yamaha P90 merely a P120 but without the built-in speakers?
>
> Looks like a P120 software in a P80 case.
> Dimentions and weight are exactly those of the P80.
Bruce
SomeGuyOnTheInternet
> bruce_...@my-deja.com (bruce phipps) wrote:
>> Is the Yamaha P90 merely a P120 but without the built-in speakers?
Pretty much, yes.
According to information I've read from Yamaha, the P90 and P120 share
the same guts (sample ROM, etc.) The case is the same as the P80, it
has no onboard amp/spkrs, and the patches (i.e., sounds) are 'voiced'
differently. That's Yamaha-speak that means that the sounds (Piano 1,
El.Pno 1, etc. etc.) are programmed slightly differently. But they
are going to sound very similar to the P120 because they share the
same sample ROM and playback engine.
Both the P120 and P90 have a much larger sample ROM than the P80 -
it's about four times bigger. Size of sample ROM isn't everything,
but it's a contributing factor.
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bruce phipps
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> Thanks,
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> Jeff
AFAIK, the P90 is the P80 replacement.
The P60-P90-P120 are the new portable stage piano family, so I would
expect them to have the same action, although the P60 is a beginner
instrument and may have a different action from P90/P120.
Bruce
Frederic Jeanmougin
> AFAIK, the P90 is the P80 replacement.
I think it is.
> The P60-P90-P120 are the new portable stage piano family, so I would
> expect them to have the same action, although the P60 is a beginner
> instrument and may have a different action from P90/P120.
When yamaha had P80-P120-P200, they each had a different action.
So I suggest to check that P60-P90-P120 has the same action.
Also, I am quite sure that the P60 has not weighted keys.
Fred.
Vincent
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> Also, I am quite sure that the P60 has not weighted keys.
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You're quite wrong (avec tout le respect qui vous est du).
Yamaha did put the same excellent GH action on the P-60, as on the P-90 and
the P-120 ...
The samples are probably different between the P-60 and the P-120. Maybe the
electronic is simpler/cheaper on the P-60 too.
The speakers are not the same too. But the speakers sound bad/weak on both
of them anyway.
The P-60 is lighter because of its plastic body. I don't believe it has been
designed to be carried around like the P-90/P-80 or the P-120.
Nevertheless, for the price (I saw it new for $599), IMHO, I don't think I
can find a better deal than the P-60 right now. This is an excellent
instrument to begin.
I paid $999 for my P-120 (Guitar Center few months ago), that price includes
the (nice looking) LP-120. I enjoy it every night.
I only use the piano samples and their variations though.
Vincent
Austin, TX
J.D. Wu
(advertised as 'medium weighted' but has no springs or hammers)
Personally I have never felt any difference in the action among the
P-series pianos (60/80/120), and the descriptions on Yamaha's website
seem to indicate the action is the same. But, some people swear there
is a difference. In my mind, this points to possible variation in
manufacturing, rather than a deliberate design feature.
f_unde...@hotmail.com
I played a p60 in the shop the other day with a p120. The action feels
the same to me. And the yamaha site says they're both graded hammer
action.
Sketchee.com
I own a P-60 myself. The action is weighted and the samples are
pretty good. Especially considering the price. I being in college and
having very little money I considered getting the DGX-500 and almost
bought it and then I decided just to get the P-60 even though it was
way over my budget. If you can afford the P-90 or P-120 thats the way
to go, but if not that's why they made the P-60.
Brian
Sylvain Guehl
Syl
Frederic Jeanmougin
> Personally I have never felt any difference in the action among the
> P-series pianos (60/80/120), and the descriptions on Yamaha's website
> seem to indicate the action is the same. But, some people swear there
> is a difference. In my mind, this points to possible variation in
> manufacturing, rather than a deliberate design feature.
I swear there is a noticeable difference between P80 and P120.
I tried both side by side.
Robert Steinberg
Are you sure the velocity sensitivity was set the same?
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Sylvain Guehl
The velocity sensitivity doesn't change PHYSICALLY the weight of the keys.
Syl
Robert Steinberg
> > Are you sure the velocity sensitivity was set the same?
>
> The velocity sensitivity doesn't change PHYSICALLY the weight of the keys.
No but one would swear it does when playing it.
Sylvain Guehl
LOL :)
Then the only way to compare is to switch off the keyboard and play mute :)
Syl
Michael Haslam
And then compare with a real piano that's "switched off"!
MJHaslam
Frederic Jeanmougin
> > I swear there is a noticeable difference between P80 and P120.
>
> Are you sure the velocity sensitivity was set the same?
No. These two keyboards were in a shop.
I did not check the velocity setting.
But I am sure that the P120 did not match any of the P80
action (I have a P80 at home).