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Best polish for high gloss black lacquer?
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Moe
Feb 26, 2003, 4:02:34 PM2/26/03
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What's the best polish to use on high gloss black lacquer to keep dust and
fingerprints at bay? I've seen polish made by Cory (High Gloss Polish) and
Yamaha (High Gloss Unicon Polish) at my local piano store. Are they any good?
fingerprints at bay? I've seen polish made by Cory (High Gloss Polish) and
Yamaha (High Gloss Unicon Polish) at my local piano store. Are they any good?
Also, is there any harm to try collector car polish? I've heard good things
about the Z6 gloss enhancer made by Zaino Bros on high gloss guitar lacquer.
TIA!
pTooner
Feb 26, 2003, 5:56:16 PM2/26/03
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Moe wrote:
> What's the best polish to use on high gloss black lacquer to keep dust and
> fingerprints at bay? I've seen polish made by Cory (High Gloss Polish) and
> Yamaha (High Gloss Unicon Polish) at my local piano store. Are they any good?
Cory is well thought of in the industry, and it's what I have used for
10 years or so.
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> Also, is there any harm to try collector car polish? I've heard good things
> about the Z6 gloss enhancer made by Zaino Bros on high gloss guitar lacquer.
>
"Where no man has gone before" -- It's possible that it could work.
IF you try it and don't damage your finish, please let us all know. I
sure wouldn't want to be the first.
gerry
pTooner
Feb 26, 2003, 5:58:41 PM2/26/03
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A little more info,
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> ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator Additive for Z-2, Z-3 & Z-5 * NEW *
> Z-1 Show Car Polish LOK Pre-Cleaner and Gloss Enhancer
> Z-2 Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Finishes
> Z-3 Show Car Polish for Regular Paint
> Z-5 Polish for Swirl Marks & Fine Scratches
> Z-6 Ultra Clean "Gloss Enhancer" Spray
> Z-7 Show Car Wash
> Z-9 Leather Soft Spray Cleaner
> Z-10 "Leather in a Bottle" Treatment and Conditioner
> Z-12 Clear-View Glass Polish
> Z-14 Plastic-Magic Cleaner & Polish
> Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss
> Z-18 ClayBar
> #314 Custom 4x5 Polish Applicator
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> ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
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> Three years in the making, Zaino ZFX™ is finally here!
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> ZFX™, with Flash Cure™ (patent pending), is a revolutionary new polish enhancement additive that's exclusive to the Zaino Show Car Polish system. There's never been anything quite like ZFX™, and here's why:
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> * All polish, sealant and wax protection systems must "cure" before they can effectively protect your paint. Once cured, all paint protection systems begin to deteriorate. The rate of deterioration depends on many factors, including the chemicals used, bonding qualities, weather, washing, and use of the car.
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> * A very few specialty paint protection systems can be layered to increase protection and paint appearance. Layer-able systems must cure prior to application of subsequent coats. Depending on the product, cure time may take a few hours or a few days.
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> * For lasting protection, most synthetic sealants are formulated to be hard. If not properly designed, synthetic sealants may crack, yellow or distort the optics of the paint surface.
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> ZFX™ is a Zaino Show Car Polish acceleration and appearance additive. It offers near-instant cure time, reduced surface distortion, enhanced polish flexibility, and improved bonding to both paint and additional layers of Show Car Polish. In simple terms, ZFX™ vastly improves paint surface appearance and increases polish durability.
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> ZFX™ is the product of more than 30 years experience painting show cars. Professional painters add chemicals and compounds to their paint mix prior to painting to improve paint flexibility, reduce paint imperfections, increase hardness, and improve gloss. We applied this same line of thinking in the development of ZFX™. The result is a stunning professional show car finish with less effort, no waiting and longer-lasting results.
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> ZFX™ can be used with any of our Show Car Polish products, including Z-2, Z-3 and Z-5. Plus, ZFX™ makes using Z-1 Polish Lok unnecessary on cars that have been clayed and thoroughly cleaned with Dawn dishwashing liquid.
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> When we say "acceleration," we mean it! Adding ZFX™ to any one of our Show Car Polishes prior to use is like kicking an F-14 Tomcat into afterburner. The competition just can't compete... we'll shoot them down every time. Perfect shine, less time -- guaranteed!
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> Z-1 SHOW CAR POLISH LOK PRE-CLEANER AND GLOSS CONDITIONER
>
> For optimum results Z-1 Polish Lok™ must be used before applying Show Car Polishes Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5. A unique non-abrasive formulation for regular and clear-coated paint finishes. Z-1 Polish Lok™ is not your typical pre-cleaner, like everyone else sells, but a very special base-coat foundation for all our Show Car Polishes. It gently cleans, conditions and prepares the paint finish for Show Car Polish. Z-1 Polish Lok™ creates an optically perfect, flat molecular bond between paint and polish to increases light refraction and reflectivety.
>
> Z-1 Polish Lok™ will dramatically heighten the "wet-looking", mirror gloss and lock in the gloss protection shield. Apply a thin coat of Z-1 Polish Lok™ using a 100% cotton cloth or applicator pad, in a circular motion, to the entire vehicle, no rubbing is necessary, DO NOT WIPE OFF. Follow directions on Show Car Polish, and apply directly over hazed Z-1 Polish Lok™. Z-1 Polish Lok™ is recommended twice a year on everyday vehicles and once a year on show cars. One eight ounce bottle of Z-1 Polish Lok™ will do approximately eight mid-size cars.
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> Z-2 SHOW CAR POLISH FOR CLEAR COATED FINISHES
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> Our customers describe Z-2 Show Car Polish with one word. AWESOME! Latest synthetic technology gives Z-2 Show Car Polish the "wettest-looking," deepest, slickest, clearest, richest, distortion-free and longest-lasting finish protection in the industry. These products were originally created for some of the finest custom showcars in the world to enhance and protect their already flawless paintwork. Imagine what it will do for your paint. Z-2 Show Car Polish contains state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives to show the true color and clarity of your paint. It is 99.9% optically perfect. We also added Ultra-Gard™ UV(40) our advanced technological sunscreen for the ultimate protection against fading and shrinking. A special additive to keep the paint from losing its elasticity and resilience. This restores the gloss on rubber and plastic painted parts, which have a tendency to fade and lose gloss faster than the rest of the vehicle.
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> Z-2 bonds with the paint pigment and will get "wetter," "deeper and richer" with multiple coats, it will also help eliminate swirl marks. Z-2 is a hydrophobic-based formula and contains no abrasives, silicones, or yellowing carnauba wax. Z-2 is the easiest and quickest polish you will ever use, it will not streak, yellow, smear, film or leave a haze even on black, in any situation. Leaves no powder or white residue in cracks, is non-greasy, non-oily, anti-static, will not attract dust or dirt and can be applied to the entire vehicle in the sun or shade. Z-2 polish is a true paint protectant designed to replace traditional waxes. It will give your paint finish total environmental protection and is the only protectant you will ever need. It will offer more protection than any wax in the industry.... You will see!!! Nothing sticks to Zaino Show Car polish. It will outperform, outprotect, outshine and outlast anything on the market today. Guaranteed!
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> The first application of Z-2 Show Car Polish will produce a super high wet-looking, durable gloss. This is fine for the average vehicle. For the enthusiast, a second coat of Z-2 will simply amaze you in terms of wetness, slickness and optical clarity. You will really see the effect, Z-2 polish has on making ordinary paint finishes look Show Car quality. The third coat, well, simply put it's AWESOME! One eight ounce bottle of Z-2 Show Car Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
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> Z-3 SHOW CAR POLISH FOR REGULAR PAINT
>
> Same synthetic technology as Z-2 Show Car Polish above, but also includes a custom blend of emulsifiers to gently clean, condition and maintain regular paints, which tend to oxidize, shrink and lose their resiliency quicker. Special filling agents for fine scratches, buffing and swirl marks. Optical enhancing additives designed specifically for single stage urethanes, lacquers, enamels, lucite, imron, acrylics and older paint formulations. One eight ounce bottle of Z-3 Show Car Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
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> Z-5 POLISH FOR SWIRL MARKS & FINE SCRATCHES
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> FACT. The only way to remove, heavy swirl marks and scratches from a clear coated surface is to have the car professionally machine buffed with an abrasive compound. This should be the last resort, as factory clear coat is very thin and you can break thru it very easily. Also, most polishes and waxes contain abrasives, they remove some swirl marks but create new swirls. Kinda of catch-22. Z-5 is the first non-abrasive polish that will eliminate swirl marks, fine scratches and spidering, without hurting the integrity of the clear coat. It does this in stages, anywhere between 1 to 3 applications. This in itself is a major technological breakthrough. With each application of Z-5 polish, you will see the swirl marks and fine scratches gradually lessen, until the marks are no longer visible. Although this procedure may seem time consuming, the results are well worth it. This is the only way a swirl mark problem should be addressed and corrected.
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> Z-5 is the safest, most cost effective way of repairing the paint, so to speak. After you are satisfied with the way the paint looks. Switch to Z-2 Show Car Polish to achieve an even higher wet-looking, optically perfect paint finish. Follow up with Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray. Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray should be used between every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It is an extremely high, optical enhancing product and dramatically increases light refraction and reflection. The results will knock your socks off! All Show Car Polish products are molecular crosslinking and are 100% compatible with each other.
>
> NOTE: For any future swirls or scratches you may get, just reapply Z-5 to the affected area or the whole car if you prefer. Z-5 can be used right over Z-2. They are completely compatible and interchangeable. For the highest optical paint enhancement always follow up Z-5 with a coat of Z-2. One eight ounce bottle of Z-5 Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
>
> Z-6 ULTRA CLEAN "GLOSS ENHANCER" SPRAY
>
> Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is a very important addition to the Show Car Polish line-up. This product dramatically boosts and intensifies all Show Car Polishes. Z-6 contains seven optical clarifiers and our unique wet gloss enhancers to increase the "wet-looking", mile-deep Show Car Polish shine. We highly recommend it for fast cleaning of dust, water spots and light soil from painted surfaces, without scratching. Forms a tough molecular bond with Show Car Polish to increase the depth of gloss, optical clarity, slickness, durability and reinforce the UV(40) protection. Super anti-static formula reduces dust and dirt pickup by up to 60%. Z-6 will not streak, smear, haze, dull or leave a film. A must for quick touch-ups and the show winning edge. Concentrated 16 oz. spray. Less than one ounce does an average car.
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> ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator Additive for Z-2, Z-3 & Z-5 * NEW *
> Z-1 Show Car Polish LOK Pre-Cleaner and Gloss Enhancer
> Z-2 Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Finishes
> Z-3 Show Car Polish for Regular Paint
> Z-5 Polish for Swirl Marks & Fine Scratches
> Z-6 Ultra Clean "Gloss Enhancer" Spray
> Z-7 Show Car Wash
> Z-9 Leather Soft Spray Cleaner
> Z-10 "Leather in a Bottle" Treatment and Conditioner
> Z-12 Clear-View Glass Polish
> Z-14 Plastic-Magic Cleaner & Polish
> Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss
> Z-18 ClayBar
> #314 Custom 4x5 Polish Applicator
>
>
>
> ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive
>
> Three years in the making, Zaino ZFX™ is finally here!
>
> ZFX™, with Flash Cure™ (patent pending), is a revolutionary new polish enhancement additive that's exclusive to the Zaino Show Car Polish system. There's never been anything quite like ZFX™, and here's why:
>
> * All polish, sealant and wax protection systems must "cure" before they can effectively protect your paint. Once cured, all paint protection systems begin to deteriorate. The rate of deterioration depends on many factors, including the chemicals used, bonding qualities, weather, washing, and use of the car.
>
> * A very few specialty paint protection systems can be layered to increase protection and paint appearance. Layer-able systems must cure prior to application of subsequent coats. Depending on the product, cure time may take a few hours or a few days.
>
> * For lasting protection, most synthetic sealants are formulated to be hard. If not properly designed, synthetic sealants may crack, yellow or distort the optics of the paint surface.
>
> ZFX™ is a Zaino Show Car Polish acceleration and appearance additive. It offers near-instant cure time, reduced surface distortion, enhanced polish flexibility, and improved bonding to both paint and additional layers of Show Car Polish. In simple terms, ZFX™ vastly improves paint surface appearance and increases polish durability.
>
> ZFX™ is the product of more than 30 years experience painting show cars. Professional painters add chemicals and compounds to their paint mix prior to painting to improve paint flexibility, reduce paint imperfections, increase hardness, and improve gloss. We applied this same line of thinking in the development of ZFX™. The result is a stunning professional show car finish with less effort, no waiting and longer-lasting results.
>
> ZFX™ can be used with any of our Show Car Polish products, including Z-2, Z-3 and Z-5. Plus, ZFX™ makes using Z-1 Polish Lok unnecessary on cars that have been clayed and thoroughly cleaned with Dawn dishwashing liquid.
>
> When we say "acceleration," we mean it! Adding ZFX™ to any one of our Show Car Polishes prior to use is like kicking an F-14 Tomcat into afterburner. The competition just can't compete... we'll shoot them down every time. Perfect shine, less time -- guaranteed!
>
> Z-1 SHOW CAR POLISH LOK PRE-CLEANER AND GLOSS CONDITIONER
>
> For optimum results Z-1 Polish Lok™ must be used before applying Show Car Polishes Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5. A unique non-abrasive formulation for regular and clear-coated paint finishes. Z-1 Polish Lok™ is not your typical pre-cleaner, like everyone else sells, but a very special base-coat foundation for all our Show Car Polishes. It gently cleans, conditions and prepares the paint finish for Show Car Polish. Z-1 Polish Lok™ creates an optically perfect, flat molecular bond between paint and polish to increases light refraction and reflectivety.
>
> Z-1 Polish Lok™ will dramatically heighten the "wet-looking", mirror gloss and lock in the gloss protection shield. Apply a thin coat of Z-1 Polish Lok™ using a 100% cotton cloth or applicator pad, in a circular motion, to the entire vehicle, no rubbing is necessary, DO NOT WIPE OFF. Follow directions on Show Car Polish, and apply directly over hazed Z-1 Polish Lok™. Z-1 Polish Lok™ is recommended twice a year on everyday vehicles and once a year on show cars. One eight ounce bottle of Z-1 Polish Lok™ will do approximately eight mid-size cars.
>
> Z-2 SHOW CAR POLISH FOR CLEAR COATED FINISHES
>
> Our customers describe Z-2 Show Car Polish with one word. AWESOME! Latest synthetic technology gives Z-2 Show Car Polish the "wettest-looking," deepest, slickest, clearest, richest, distortion-free and longest-lasting finish protection in the industry. These products were originally created for some of the finest custom showcars in the world to enhance and protect their already flawless paintwork. Imagine what it will do for your paint. Z-2 Show Car Polish contains state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives to show the true color and clarity of your paint. It is 99.9% optically perfect. We also added Ultra-Gard™ UV(40) our advanced technological sunscreen for the ultimate protection against fading and shrinking. A special additive to keep the paint from losing its elasticity and resilience. This restores the gloss on rubber and plastic painted parts, which have a tendency to fade and lose gloss faster than the rest of the vehicle.
>
> Z-2 bonds with the paint pigment and will get "wetter," "deeper and richer" with multiple coats, it will also help eliminate swirl marks. Z-2 is a hydrophobic-based formula and contains no abrasives, silicones, or yellowing carnauba wax. Z-2 is the easiest and quickest polish you will ever use, it will not streak, yellow, smear, film or leave a haze even on black, in any situation. Leaves no powder or white residue in cracks, is non-greasy, non-oily, anti-static, will not attract dust or dirt and can be applied to the entire vehicle in the sun or shade. Z-2 polish is a true paint protectant designed to replace traditional waxes. It will give your paint finish total environmental protection and is the only protectant you will ever need. It will offer more protection than any wax in the industry.... You will see!!! Nothing sticks to Zaino Show Car polish. It will outperform, outprotect, outshine and outlast anything on the market today. Guaranteed!
>
> The first application of Z-2 Show Car Polish will produce a super high wet-looking, durable gloss. This is fine for the average vehicle. For the enthusiast, a second coat of Z-2 will simply amaze you in terms of wetness, slickness and optical clarity. You will really see the effect, Z-2 polish has on making ordinary paint finishes look Show Car quality. The third coat, well, simply put it's AWESOME! One eight ounce bottle of Z-2 Show Car Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
>
> Z-3 SHOW CAR POLISH FOR REGULAR PAINT
>
> Same synthetic technology as Z-2 Show Car Polish above, but also includes a custom blend of emulsifiers to gently clean, condition and maintain regular paints, which tend to oxidize, shrink and lose their resiliency quicker. Special filling agents for fine scratches, buffing and swirl marks. Optical enhancing additives designed specifically for single stage urethanes, lacquers, enamels, lucite, imron, acrylics and older paint formulations. One eight ounce bottle of Z-3 Show Car Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
>
> Z-5 POLISH FOR SWIRL MARKS & FINE SCRATCHES
>
> FACT. The only way to remove, heavy swirl marks and scratches from a clear coated surface is to have the car professionally machine buffed with an abrasive compound. This should be the last resort, as factory clear coat is very thin and you can break thru it very easily. Also, most polishes and waxes contain abrasives, they remove some swirl marks but create new swirls. Kinda of catch-22. Z-5 is the first non-abrasive polish that will eliminate swirl marks, fine scratches and spidering, without hurting the integrity of the clear coat. It does this in stages, anywhere between 1 to 3 applications. This in itself is a major technological breakthrough. With each application of Z-5 polish, you will see the swirl marks and fine scratches gradually lessen, until the marks are no longer visible. Although this procedure may seem time consuming, the results are well worth it. This is the only way a swirl mark problem should be addressed and corrected.
>
> Z-5 is the safest, most cost effective way of repairing the paint, so to speak. After you are satisfied with the way the paint looks. Switch to Z-2 Show Car Polish to achieve an even higher wet-looking, optically perfect paint finish. Follow up with Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray. Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray should be used between every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It is an extremely high, optical enhancing product and dramatically increases light refraction and reflection. The results will knock your socks off! All Show Car Polish products are molecular crosslinking and are 100% compatible with each other.
>
> NOTE: For any future swirls or scratches you may get, just reapply Z-5 to the affected area or the whole car if you prefer. Z-5 can be used right over Z-2. They are completely compatible and interchangeable. For the highest optical paint enhancement always follow up Z-5 with a coat of Z-2. One eight ounce bottle of Z-5 Polish will yield approximately eight to ten coats on a mid-size car.
>
> Z-6 ULTRA CLEAN "GLOSS ENHANCER" SPRAY
>
> Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is a very important addition to the Show Car Polish line-up. This product dramatically boosts and intensifies all Show Car Polishes. Z-6 contains seven optical clarifiers and our unique wet gloss enhancers to increase the "wet-looking", mile-deep Show Car Polish shine. We highly recommend it for fast cleaning of dust, water spots and light soil from painted surfaces, without scratching. Forms a tough molecular bond with Show Car Polish to increase the depth of gloss, optical clarity, slickness, durability and reinforce the UV(40) protection. Super anti-static formula reduces dust and dirt pickup by up to 60%. Z-6 will not streak, smear, haze, dull or leave a film. A must for quick touch-ups and the show winning edge. Concentrated 16 oz. spray. Less than one ounce does an average car.
This sounds like the same stuff as Meguier's. It really doesn't sound
like something I'd put on my piano. I might try it on my motorcycle,
though.
gerry
Bruce Abrams
Feb 26, 2003, 6:46:47 PM2/26/03
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"pTooner" <nob...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Assuming the polyester finish is the same as the polyester finish on my
bedroom set (albeit almond, not black), it shouldn't be a problem. I've
used automotive polish on my bedroom furniture once or twice a year for 15
years. The major benefit is that it protects from scratches. I've been
thinking about trying it out in a small corner of the lower panel on my
piano. When I get it around to it, I'll post the results.
> gerry
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Anthony Giorgianni
Feb 26, 2003, 7:09:27 PM2/26/03
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Unicon polish is wonderful! I have about eight bottles I bought years ago
directly from Yamaha. I know there is some debate about it seeping into the
finish and making it hard to refinish the piano if needed, or something. And
you have to use it sparingly and over small sections at a time.
directly from Yamaha. I know there is some debate about it seeping into the
finish and making it hard to refinish the piano if needed, or something. And
you have to use it sparingly and over small sections at a time.
But it really makes the finish ultra shiny.
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
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