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disklavier v. pianodisc

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Sheldon Deluty, MD

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Feb 1, 1995, 2:59:57 PM2/1/95
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Has anyone out there auditioned a yamaha disklavier and a pianodisc which can
be retrofitted to any other piano (including a Steinway)

Does anyone have any thoughts on which is a better system?

Thanks

Albert Chinh Luong

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Feb 1, 1995, 10:56:45 PM2/1/95
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>Thanks

- The Disklavier can only be seen in a Yamaha. This is because the system was made by Yamaha especially for Yamaha pianos. The Pianodisc, however can be fitted into any piano of your desire.
- What's the catch? Well, the Disklavier uses two optical systems -
one under the keys and one near the hammers. Fiber-optic cables are used and the control module is superb. By using optical beams to measure key
depression, the action is not, in any ways, affected. The playback feature is
custom made, meaning the the solenoid motors are expertly placed for optimum
key leverage. The Pianodisc uses and touch sensitive pad on the bottom of
the keys to measure impact. This method is not accurate. Also the key motors could not be placed at its optimum position because it the system is not
built for any particular piano. The control module is very limited, one thing to consider is that the basic Pianodisc kit comes only in playback, the recording feature costs another $1000 bucks, whereas the Disklavier comes
standard with playback and recording. Both have optional symphony modules.

Summary: The Disklavier system is FAR superior to the Pianodisc.
However, the Disklavier is only available for a Yamaha piano,
whereas the Pianodisc can be installed on any piano. The price for
the Disklavier ranges about $10,000 dollars RETAIL <- this means
that if you are buying a Yamaha C3 grand for $25,000 then getting
it with a DLav. would cost $35,000. A Pianodisc retails around
$6,000 with the recording feature and an extra $700 bucks intalled.

* Both players can use eachother's Disks!!!
They are interchangeable.
6,000 with recording feature an extra $700 to install.

JA...@cunyvm.cuny.edu

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Feb 5, 1995, 9:33:02 AM2/5/95
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What's a good or average price for a Yamaha C3 grand with Disklavier?

Michael Aronson

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Feb 5, 1995, 5:06:48 PM2/5/95
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We evaluated both systems and went with the PIANODISC.
So far we are very happy with it.
The pianodisc does NOT play the SYMPHONY disks for DISKLAVIER but will
play the stright piano pieces
PIANO DISC is user upgradable thru use of an EPROM

We were able to get the piano disc with symphony (not record) for about
$4000 installed
we put it in a BOSTON piano


Albert-Michel C Luong

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Feb 7, 1995, 10:09:02 PM2/7/95
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On Sun, 5 Feb 1995 JA...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU wrote:

> What's a good or average price for a Yamaha C3 grand with Disklavier?
>
>

Okay, let's see... it retails for around $38,000 (last time I checked).
Average for this would be $30,000. Good price is around $27,000.
Now if you're damn good at negotiations - well, you can get it for the
price I got mine for... $XX,XXX.
Point of advice is that the price of Yamaha's go up about 1,000
twice a year (according to rip-off dealers at Field's Piano in Orange
County,CA) so don't hesitate to act quickly.
One more thing is that Yamaha is not making anymore G-series
pianos according to NAMM '95. This means that the new C-series, in my
opinion, will be reduced in price. However, quality is likely to also go
down (If you want specs on changes, I have copies of the dealers brochures
from NAMM).

Albert-Michel C Luong
eabu...@ea.oac.uci.edu

<Disclaimer> They are my opinions... Mine, mine, they're all MINE!

Albert-Michel C Luong

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Feb 9, 1995, 1:47:11 AM2/9/95
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On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Robert Swirsky-Warner wrote:

> Re: your comments about Yamaha:
>
> They'll probably make the C1 and C2 (that show up in the catalog
> but are rarely seen) more common.

- Yep, the C1 and C2 are definitely going to predominate the market.
Strangely though, there is a big jump in quality going on the C3 and
up. Did you see the New S-series!

> I hope they ditch the GH1 and GH2, they're AWFUL!

- Nope, It's a shame the the pitiful GH-series are carried over
to yet another era.

>
> I can't beleive some of the prices I see on the net!
> I paid $18500 for a DC3 (Disklavier C3) brand-new about 13 months
> ago. $35000 is silly. I don't think anyone pays that much!

- What! Wh.. wha... where did you purchase your DC3. Was that
price including tax, prepping, two free tunings and a warranty?

Albert Michel Luong

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