Yamaha P200 vs Roland RD600
Ling C. Ho
Hi
I just bought a Roland RD600 a couple of week ago, before
the Yamaha P200 came out. Is there any reason for me to
"consider" going back and exchanging it with the P200?
What are the features that P200 has that RD600 lacks and vice versa?
Does the P200 has multi-level sustain pedal? This is one thing I wish
the RD600 has.
How about the key action and sound? Is it the same as the Clavinova
CVPs?
By the way, for you RD600 owners out there, what are the piano sounds
you like most?
Are those piano sounds synthesized or sampled? How come the Full Grands
sound weird?
(Pardon me but I have not played many grand piano before).
Another question: Is there a inexpensive midi device I can plug into the
keyboard
and record my playing and then play back through the keyboard?
Thanks
...
ling
Bob Cardone
"Ling C. Ho" <al...@altavista.net> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I just bought a Roland RD600 a couple of week ago, before
>the Yamaha P200 came out. Is there any reason for me to
>"consider" going back and exchanging it with the P200?
>
>What are the features that P200 has that RD600 lacks and vice versa?
>
>Does the P200 has multi-level sustain pedal? This is one thing I wish
>the RD600 has.
>
>How about the key action and sound? Is it the same as the Clavinova
>CVPs?
>
>By the way, for you RD600 owners out there, what are the piano sounds
>you like most?
I like the ST Concert1 the best You will find that you can vary some
of the sounds with the equalizer.
Some of the Grands and Semi Grands are great for Live playing in Rock
bands etc. really punches through.
>Are those piano sounds synthesized or sampled? How come the Full Grands
>sound weird?
Sounds are supposed to be sampled.
>(Pardon me but I have not played many grand piano before).
>
>Another question: Is there a inexpensive midi device I can plug into the
>keyboard
>and record my playing and then play back through the keyboard?
Get Cakewalk and you can use your sound card for midi communication to
the keyboard. The ideal thing, however is to get a device like
Portman Midiman which are cheap and work great.
http://www.midifarm.com/midiman
Bob Cardone
>
>Thanks
>...
>ling
Daniel Smart
Ling C. Ho wrote in message <3539AAA1...@xnet.com>...
>By the way, for you RD600 owners out there, what are the piano sounds
>you like most?
>Are those piano sounds synthesized or sampled? How come the Full Grands
>sound weird?
>(Pardon me but I have not played many grand piano before).
Not quite sure what you mean by them sounding wierd. They sound like a piano
to me.
My favourite piano sound is layering Stereo Concert 4 with Full Grand 1 with
quite a lot of EFX resonance on the Concert 4, and the reverb on both turned
up a bit more than default and set to Stage 1 (I think). I think I probably
turn the brightness up a bit for the Full Grand as well.
Another nice sound (not strictly classical sounding) is Stereo Concert 4 as
above layered with Full Grand 3 with StereoChorus EFX on the Full Grand.
StereoConcert 1 on its own is nice for slow classical pieces as well.
Just play around and experiment with the setup using the tone controls and
EFX and there's a very wide range of sounds that you can achieve.
All the sounds are stereo sampled. If you look in your manual it tells you
how many voices each sound uses as well.
Mark David
Both the Roland RD600 and the Yamaha P200 are excellent keyboards. The
P200 has built-in speakers, which is convenient for some and can reduce
clutter (while others don't want to carry it around). The main differences
have to do with personal taste. Once you have one, it is unlikely that
there would be any reason to switch for the other (in either direction).
Yamaha and Alesis both make devices that are make it very easy to record
and play back through your keyboard. Anybody who is interested in more
information on these devices can email me.
> I just bought a Roland RD600 a couple of week ago, before
> the Yamaha P200 came out. Is there any reason for me to
> "consider" going back and exchanging it with the P200?
> Another question: Is there a inexpensive midi device I can plug into the
> keyboard
> and record my playing and then play back through the keyboard?
>
> Thanks
> ...
> ling
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In article <mark-21049...@azathoth-30.d.enteract.com>,
Mark David <ma...@zZounds.com> wrote:
>Both the Roland RD600 and the Yamaha P200 are excellent keyboards....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I totally agree with Mark's comment. I am about to buy a keyboard too.
I tried both the RD600 and P200 side by side. I don't see why people
keep prasing the RD600 but say so little about the P200. I find P200's
graded hammer action superior than RD600, and the sound is more natural.
Some in the newsgroups who gave comments may have never tried both pianos
side by side. I suggest people who are considering the P200 or RD600 do
the comparison themselves.
Dickson 3.1
pTooner
The P200 is not yet available in many places. I have compared the RD600 and
the P150 side by side. I found the actions similar, the Yamaha possibly a
little better. The piano sound of the Roland was dramatically superior.
Gerry
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Bob Cardone
pTooner <ge...@geddings.net> wrote:
>The P200 is not yet available in many places. I have compared the RD600 and
>the P150 side by side. I found the actions similar, the Yamaha possibly a
>little better. The piano sound of the Roland was dramatically superior.
>
>Gerry
>
And I found the action on the Yamaha 150 that I played rather light
and cheap feeling. Different Strokes for idfferent folks I guess
Bob Cardone
jmo...@emory.edu
In article <3544a157...@news.mindspring.com>,
cardone!@!mindspring.com wrote:
From Yamaha's literature, it seems that the 150 only has weighted action
but the 200 has graded hammer action. I tried the 200 briefly, and not
side by side with the 150 or the Roland, but I thought it could definitely
be a keyboard to consider. It was too noisy in the room to compare the
sounds, but I did like the action. I would be interested to find out if
the Yamaha can import new sounds.
Juli
to...@no_spam.com
In rec.music.makers.synth jmo...@emory.edu wrote:
> I would be interested to find out if the Yamaha can import new sounds.
If I am not mistaken, this is NOT a popular trend among digital pianos. Of
course, you could try to use the P-200 as a controller for triggering a
piano module, synth module or sampler/RAMpler/ROMpler of your choice.
James Bond
>> In article <mark-21049...@azathoth-30.d.enteract.com>,
>> Mark David <ma...@zZounds.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Both the Roland RD600 and the Yamaha P200 are excellent keyboards....
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I totally agree with Mark's comment. I am about to buy a keyboard too.
>> I tried both the RD600 and P200 side by side. I don't see why people
>> keep prasing the RD600 but say so little about the P200. I find P200's
>> graded hammer action superior than RD600, and the sound is more natural.
>>
>> Some in the newsgroups who gave comments may have never tried both pianos
>> side by side. I suggest people who are considering the P200 or RD600 do
>> the comparison themselves.
I have tried the P200 and RD600 at the store recently. I must say, that I
never
liked the Roland action on the piano, so perhaps this is biased.
I guess I don't buy the marketing hype, and go by experience instead.
I was a bit surprised by the Yamaha P200 by how heavy the action was
on the keys. It played well, and the piano sample was quite nice, but the
action seemed a bit heavy to me. By heavy, I mean that it took some force
to play, I guess that would mean there is more resistance. Other than that,
this is all I remember of these two. BTW, I settled for a Fatar because of
cost considerations, otherwise I would have bought the P200.
JB
Rasiel
Where can one find more info, specs and prices for the Yamaha online? What's
going street price?
Ras
Alastair Disley
On Fri, 1 May 1998, Rasiel wrote:
> Where can one find more info, specs and prices for the Yamaha online? What's
> going street price?
Uh... list price is 1400 pounds, trade price 840 pounds, street price
somewhere in between. Multiply by 1.6 for equivalent US$ pricings
although tax differences might alter the street price.
Al
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One of the most impressive aspects of the new Yamaha P-200 is the action.
It uses a graded hammer effect action. The weighting of the keys is
actually heavier in the bass and lighter in the treble詰ike on an acoustic
piano. Very realistic, and un-available in the Roland to my knowledge.
Same action as used in the CLP-811 and the CVP series Clavinova digital pianos.
In article <6idgdo$6...@suriname.earthlink.net>, "Rasiel"
<ras...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where can one find more info, specs and prices for the Yamaha online? What's
> going street price?
>
> Ras
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