vintage blower piano
amandian
which plugs into the wall and blows air through a set of 22 piano keys and
also has side buttons which range from Major, Minor, Diminish, Bass,
Seventh. It looks to be 50's era and since we are not piano players, we're
just not sure what on earth it is and what history does it have?
Any help would be appreciated!
Amanda
--
The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage.
Danish Proverb
Rick Clark
date it, more like 60's. Noisy vacuum motor, plastic reeds, and not
tuned very well. What do you need to know? They are what they are- toy
organs. Probably the result of someone realizing you can make such
reed arrays out of molded plastic, which had become an easily
accessible and cheap technology. Toy manufacuters- always on the
cutting edge.
Rick Clark
Larry
>date it, more like 60's. Noisy vacuum motor, plastic reeds, and not
>tuned very well. What do you need to know? They are what they are- toy
>organs.
Eminee!!
Larry Fletcher
Pianos Inc
Atlanta GA
Dealer/technician
Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
Http://www.pianosinc.net
Rick Clark
>
>Eminee!!
Mine was called "Magnus Chord Organ", but I certainly remember the
Eminee. Same difference. Actually, I think the product concept may
have continued into the '70's.
But for a real nostalgia piece.... remember the Stylophone??? beep
beeep beep.....
Rick Clark
Tom Shaw
TS
"amandian" <aman...@one.net.au> wrote in message
news:3aa45...@news01.one.net.au...
ex-PFC Wintergreen
news:3aa4d58...@news.mindspring.com...
> larryin...@aol.comnojunk (Larry) wrote:
> >
> >Eminee!!
>
> Mine was called "Magnus Chord Organ", but I certainly remember the
> Eminee. Same difference
"same difference" doesn't make sense. It's like saying "different
similarity".
Ed
Rick Clark
> Mine was called "Magnus Chord Organ", but I certainly remember the
>> Eminee. Same difference
>
>"same difference" doesn't make sense. It's like saying "different
>similarity".
So what? It's a common American expression, many people use it, people
know what it means, and it is meant to be somewhat humorous for the
very reason that it is kind of illogical. So what are you, a
self-appointed language cop?
Rick Clark
ex-PFC Wintergreen
Take a chill-pill, dude. It's my job to point out linguistic anomalies.
ex-PFC Wintergreen
Dwain Lee
ex-PFC Wintergreen <odrif...@getridofthis.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>It's my job to point out linguistic anomalies.
Oh yeah, I was in an Italian restaurant just last week, and ordered those -
they were fantastic!
Dwain
ex-PFC Wintergreen
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Did you have the Soup De Jour? I had it yesterday, and it was delicious!
ex-PFC Wintergreen
Dwain Lee
> Did you have the Soup De Jour? I had it yesterday, and it was delicious!
>
Yeah I did, it wasn't bad...but I don't care what kind of fancy name they
give it, it still looked like vegetable soup to me.
Dwain
mason clark
Yeah, but you can't depend on it. Today it was onion soup.
pianoguy
>
> ex-PFC Wintergreen
Pointing is a good job for an ex-PFC.
Can you go with us on our next duck hunt?
--
pianoguy
return email disabled
Larry
Now *that* was funny.
As for the Italian food discussion, you guys can eat all the linguistic. I just
want a nig bowl of these little rolls swimming in olive oil and garlic salt.
Rick Clark
>Take a chill-pill, dude. It's my job to point out linguistic anomalies.
>
>ex-PFC Wintergreen
Ah, I understands now, I.B.
pianoguy
> Now *that* was funny.
====================
That's what I live for. <BG>
Radu Focshaner
> Did you have the Soup De Jour?
It is my job to point to you that you have no idea of french grammar !
Eddie S
news:3AA757...@writeme.com...
> ex-PFC Wintergreen wrote:
>
> > Did you have the Soup De Jour?
>
> It is my job to point to you that you have no idea of french grammar !
That's OK, though, because I've never particularly cared for the snooty
French -- especially the ones from Canada!
Ed
Radu Focshaner
> That's OK, though, because I've never particularly cared for the snooty
> French -- especially the ones from Canada!
I strongly disagree.
The french have the most beautiful language, they love women, they love
a good smoke, a good wine, they are interesting people to have a talk at
a fine restaurant (which they close down just to entertain you until 3
a.m. after asking you if you want a girl to spend the night). And they
have one of the most interesting culture (so did the Germans, but that
is another story).
Paris is Paris is Paris and there is no place in the world where I would
feel better.
Radu
Well, they do not like foreigners, are anti-semitic...but I can live
with this.
========================================
I really have no life...
I go around reading posts and,without having any original thought,
or adding anything to the subject,simply make short simpleminded
remarQs.
Rick Clark
hallmarks of every great culture. All they lack is more personal
firearms, giant motor vehicles, and larger nuclear weapon arrays.
Rick Clark
Alice Liesman
Radu Focshaner wrote in message <3AA816...@writeme.com>...
>The french have the most beautiful language, they love women, they love
>a good smoke, a good wine, they are interesting people to have a talk at
Well, that's a nice load of sterotyping garbage. Except for the language,
which is subjective, and I would say Cree beats French any day of the week.
>Paris is Paris is Paris and there is no place in the world where I would
>feel better.
Yeah, until you die of some horrible cancer. In Paris the smog is so thick
you can see it looking to the other end of the street. All the white stone
buildings are stained an evil grey from the pollutants, and so are your
lungs, you can be sure. There is no parking, very little green space, and
the whole place shuts down in August while everyone vacations elsewhere
(because only a foreigner would vacation in Paris), so you're lucky to find
groceries. On top of that, it's incredibly sleazy, and all the sleaziest
entertainment is the best known to tourists - maybe that's where you got
your narrow idea of what the French are like. It's a stomach-churning
cesspool, that's what it is.
--
Alice V. Liesman, who should know
Rick Clark
Radu is a great guy, and nothing against him, but I like your writing
style!
I haven't heard Cree spoken (now I'm interested to) but to my ear the
Brazilian version of Portugese sounds the best, moreso when sung.
Rick Clark
Eddie S
> > In Paris the smog is so thick
> >you can see it looking to the other end of the street. All the white
stone
> >buildings are stained an evil grey from the pollutants, and so are your
> >lungs, you can be sure. There is no parking, very little green space, and
> >the whole place shuts down in August while everyone vacations elsewhere
> >(because only a foreigner would vacation in Paris), so you're lucky to
find
> >groceries. On top of that, it's incredibly sleazy, and all the sleaziest
> >entertainment is the best known to tourists - maybe that's where you got
> >your narrow idea of what the French are like. It's a stomach-churning
> >cesspool, that's what it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!!!!!!
The French can have Paris is Paris is Paris!
Ed
greg presley
"Alice Liesman" <lie...@telusplanet.net> wrote in >
> groceries. On top of that, it's incredibly sleazy, and all the sleaziest
> entertainment is the best known to tourists - maybe that's where you got
> your narrow idea of what the French are like. It's a stomach-churning
> cesspool, that's what it is.
Please don't hold yourself back, Alice, tell us how you REALLY feel. Even
if some of us have had a radically different experience of Paris and the
French than you, it will make for great rmmp entertainment.
Greg
Eddie S
news:t5Tp6.1006$Up.6...@sea-read.news.verio.net...
The only good things to come out of France were fancy pastries and Leslie
Caron.
Ed
Alice Liesman
greg presley wrote in message ...
>if some of us have had a radically different experience of Paris and the
>French than you, it will make for great rmmp entertainment.
You might notice that I said nothing about the French - though as for that,
I suspect my experience thereof is longer than Radu's and probably yours,
too. As for Paris, if you had experienced it when it had clean air, clean,
convenient streets, no conges payes, no prostitutes and no skin shows, you'd
be very much decomposed by now. Paris was already known for its stench and
low-lifes about eight centuries ago.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aa7e370...@news.mindspring.com>...
>I haven't heard Cree spoken (now I'm interested to) but to my ear the
>Brazilian version of Portugese sounds the best, moreso when sung.
Cree is more dignified than French. It's not spoken so much in the head, and
when you speak Cree you take your time and speak calmly and kindly. (Not
always, of course, but their culture has a much higher expectation of
respect and dignity than ours.) The grammar is also very interesting,
contrary to some people's belief... Once at a job interview I said "the Cree
verb structure is quite complicated" and the interviewer said "oh, I didn't
know they had verbs."
I do also like Brazilian-Portuguese to listen to, but I don't speak a word
of it. Sometimes understanding people really detracts from your enjoyment of
the sound!
--
Alice V. Liesman
Radu Focshaner
>
> Yes, tobacco,
You should understand that the french do not waste the few years they
have to live ( a once only occasion) worrying about the health hazards.
> alcohol
wine, which is less than 50% alcohol like the whiskey. They do not drink
to intoxication and usually it is with some kind of food counteracting
the alcohol (the fats in the cheese or the meat).
> food fixation
I would call the American fast food a fixation, not the french cuisine.
And they are not obsessed with the fat percents in each piece of food
displayed at the supermarket (and there are less obese frenchmen than
Americans).
So they smoke, drink wine, coffee with caffeine and they do not die
healthy ! And while being less stressed by concern of their unhealthy
way of life, they do not need courses in "how to get friends and gain
influence", "how to reach supreme serenity", "how to ..." and "how
to...". They know that they have only one occasion to live and they must
CONSUME it.
I know that what I said might look like stereotypes, but in someway, I
feel that they have a better life philosophy, and as they indulge in
smoke, wine, food and women they are indulging, without worrying about
being politically correct, in arts (plastic arts, music, literature,
architectures). They have a kind of "audace" which you'll not find
anywhere. When Christo (the bulgarian) covers some "ponts" with fabric
sheets (lots of money), the Parisians accept it. When some romanian
painter covers a building in repairs (the Justice Ministry) with a huge
painting, it is funny and actually embelish the surroundings. When they
build ramps for skateboarders and roller-bladers in front of the
Chaillot palace or at Versailles (and the kids and youngers have the fun
of their life) no one shouts "Sacrilege, historical buildings !". When a
japanese architect (a JAPANESE not a french !) comes up with the idea
of building a glass pyramid at the entrance of the Louvre, they build
it. When the Israeli sculptor, Agam comes up with the idea of a
colourful fountain, they build it. When crazier architects build a huge
square , a pyramid and a sphere in the La Defense quartier, people come
to see and enjoy them. There is no secret that Paris attracts the most
brilliant artist minds. Walking through Paris, you are amazed and
pleased (it is funny) of all the crazy things artists build and expose
on the streets and the malls. Besides the remnants of the old Paris
architecture and the remnants of Art Nouveau, the cathedrals, the
cemeteries, the museums.
No green spaces in Paris ? Like London (a very busy and hectic town),
Paris has lots of gardens , one of the most cosy being the Luxembourg,
with his hidden corners (statues, ponds), children playgrounds. Gardens
of the Tuileries (reference: Moussorsgky, Pictures at an Exhibition),
Bois de Boulogne. Paris boulevards (devised by Haussman) have trees and
flower parcels (the tulips in May are huge). And yes, they keep the
green spaces and do not build parking lots. Not on the ground but
underground. And they do the building of the parking lots via small
holes in the side walks. I enjoyed the air and the smell of Paris in
may, september and october. I did not notice smog (L.A. has smog). True
, in August it is very hot, the asfalt melts so the wise leave Paris. It
is not a side of their culture.
If we speak of the culture, one part of it is the way they speak,
argue, reason. It is also the book shops, one near the other, open after
mid-night, always full of people sitting on the floor and reading (
young people, mind you !). It is the music shops, giant music shops,
where if you ask about an obscure Poulenc concerto, the face of the guy
near you is radiating with joy that a foreigner asks about a french
composer - and he helps you find the record. It is also the string
quintet playing under the trees in the Champs of Mars (near the Eiffel)
without collecting money, just for the fun of it. It is the Pompidou
Center, which puts on exhibit a SIXTIES collection of used commodities
(TV, mixers, cars) and it it fascinating. It is the people who flock
into the churches not for the word of God, but to hear Guillou
improvising on the grand orgue of St. Eustache or various musicians at
Sainte Madeleine (beautiful art nouveau public toilets nearby), it is
the man playing the "orgue de barbarie" on the street explaining you why
his french machine is better than the german one of the guy across the
street, is the discussion with the man of the Limoges orgue near the
caroussel at the Eiffel tower. It is the bouquinaires, those who sell
used books and posters and old news papers on the banks of the Seine,
and not only tourists are searching through the piles (the tourists buy
the forgeries - and there are a lot of them) but people of all kinds. It
is the coffee shops where , in evening (not that during the day they are
empty) , groups of young people (in these days !) talk about art, life,
very heated (but not "flamed") debates. It is Paris where Satie, Ravel,
Debussy, Stravinsky, Enesco, Brancusi, Jacques Brel, Moustaky, Brassens,
Becaud, Yves Montand, Charles Aznavour, Edith Piaf, J.J. Jare, Sartre,
Voltaire, Jules Verne, Lautrec, Saint Saens, Franck lived (short list).
It is a fascinating town, a living and breathing town.
And you know, you can walk through the empty streets of Paris, after 1
am, without fear (it's very cold though). During the day you can see the
men in black (very impresive looks), patroling in pairs (often you can
see squads) , searching suspects (confiscating any offensive weapons,
even carton board knives), no one can argue with them. Very reassuring.
I almost forgot : the Notre Dame cathedral. I cannot convey my feelings
about this place, but as I stayed at Blvd. Saint Michel, a few steps
near the cathedral, I would walk every night to it, carress its stones
and kiss it good-night. And at the back of the cathedral is a small
park, to rest, meditate, watch the kids. And at the end of the small
island, an impresionant memorial for the victims of WWII, with a small
opening towards the river. Very smart conception, wise architect. It
does the "memorial" job very well. In the evenings, on the sidewalk of
the Seine, near the water, young people play the guitar (or the drums
all night long, taking turns ), kiss, watch the boats, doze. And if you
are not a tourist in a rush to put a check mark on the "must-see" list,
you spend long minutes or hours in each place. And then it infiltrates
you and enriches you with strong emotions and experiences. Paris is not
a tour stop. It is a place to live for a while in order to get familiar
with, learn each corner, street , understand the people. It is like
love, it must be done slowly and enjoy and sip every moment (and think
of the slow, calm movements of Satie's gymnopedies and then of the crazy
Stravinsky dissonances).
> and prostitution
Prostitution is illegal in France and if it is done, it must be very
discreet for I did not encounter it. There is a XXX street (and it is
not place Pigalle). Mostly rip-off peep shows (I got ripped off twice,
but if one is to know Paris, he has to try everything, not only the Quay
d'Orsay museum). Near this street, there is a courtyard with a
mechanical clock rooster (cocque) which moves each hour (why did they
put it in such an obscure place I don't know, but then , they are
crazy).
What I was talking about was a client of ours who took me to a
restaurant and spoke to me as if he would know me from my chidhood. They
are very open, not stiffs, civilised yet witty. His proposal shocked me,
but then, there are differences in our backgrounds. Anyway, I lived also
at a friend in the suburbs (french, jews, arabs whatever). I used the
crowded buses, bought in the shops. I felt as I always lived there. I
was invited at family gatherings, ate with them, talked with them,
laughed with them.
Of course, the secret is to talk french... otherwise... you are a
martian.
Oops, I forgot the women. Not outstanding beauties, but very chic and
with sparks of intelligence in their eyes. I think if one loves a french
woman, it is in first place a mind affair, an intellectual experience.
It is the kind of affair Brel sings about . Do anyone remember Juliette
Greco or Barbara (the women in black) ? Isabelle Adgeani or Sophie
Marceau or even the non french, Lily Marlene (Dietrich). The kind of
women to die for.
I wrote this garbage and I've been too prolix (the word of the day), and
I'm not sure I described what I feel about Paris, but I had to do it.
And I try to remain european and refrain from attacking BBQ culture from
other parts of the world. But it is very hard, after months spent in an
American newsgroup, to remain "pure" and refrain from getting in flame
wars and refraining from callling other people words as garbage and
refraining from using words with many ****. While I was thinking the
"James Boyk way", I cannot leave the group where I have so very good and
true and fine friends. Friends like I never had before, altruists (not
an insult !), witty and , sorry for this emotional outpourring, pure at
heart.
God bless you and God bless America for the fine people it has.
Radu
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
doesn't mean I will let you off of the hook for being too prolix. In fact,
your willfull prolixity has me considering measures against you that would
just take forever to write down -- it would be too prolix to dole out any
punishment to you in written form.
I'm killfiling James Boyk, even though he doesn't post here anymore. When
he starts posting again, I will remove him from my killfile.
I just figured out that SONG4 is a homosexual. I'm going to remove him from
my killfile until he stops posting. Then I will killfile him.
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
Radu Focshaner
>
> Hey, Alice,
>
> Radu is a great guy, and nothing against him, but I like your writing
> style!
Of course, if you like people saying that your opinion is garbage
instead of simple stating that their experience is different...but then,
this is the USENET...and the phrase "This is your opinion - which is
wrong" is the most civilised one we should expect.
Radu Focshaner
>
> Just because you pointed out in your prolix post that you were too prolix,
> doesn't mean I will let you off of the hook for being too prolix. In fact,
> your willfull prolixity has me considering measures against you that would
> just take forever to write down -- it would be too prolix to dole out any
> punishment to you in written form.
I am terribly sorry that my posts to RMMP are causing you so much pain
and trouble. Please disregard them in the future.
I sincerely appologize to you,
Radu
P.S. When I looked for the word "prolix" at www.dictionary.com, this is
what I saw:
" prolix was Word of the Day on July 20, 1999."
This is what I alluded to.
TheFloch
Thanks for the good memories you gave me. I was in Paris in June 1999
for 2 weeks. Loved every minutes of it! Your description is very
true and poetic like the French are (poetic). Very entertaining.
Thanks
thefloch
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:28:36 -0800, Radu Focshaner <ra...@writeme.com>
wrote:
Larry
>Caron.
>
>Ed
All I can remember of Paris was these green phone booth sized stands built over
all the sewer drains, with the side panels not quite reaching the ground by a
foot or so, where the French would walk into and pee into the sewer drains. You
could see about halfway up to their knees, and see them taking a leak right
there on the side of the street, hidden only by the green sides of these
things.
I also remember that the women were nasty, didn't shave, smelled, and most of
them (male *and* female) were as rude as they come. They would tell you how
crude they thought Americans were, then they would take a leak into the sewer.
But that's been a while, so maybe it's different now. There are a few French I
have talked to on this NG who are very nice.
Tom Shaw
that the French, of all people, have a WWII memorial whereas we in the US
still lack one...altho somehow we managed one for Viet Nam. We also could
hardly wait to construct one for the comparatively few people who died in
Oklahoma City.
TS
"Radu Focshaner" <ra...@writeme.com> wrote in message
news:3AA8A2...@writeme.com...
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
> I sincerely appologize to you,
Radu, I don't know if there is a language barrier or not -- I don't know
your nationality. I'm joking with you.
As for the French, I mean, I do think French people are snobs, for the most
part, but I don't lump 'em all together. I haven't had exposure to French
French, but I have to French Canadians, and I think they're a horrible lot.
As for being prolix, I have just been amused at the length of these posts
associated with Song4. Not only is he so verbose that it boggles my mind,
I'm even more boggled that people RESPOND to him at all! And they're almost
as prolix as Song4 in so doing!
Love ya, mean it,
Ed, aka ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
news:20010308195009...@ng-cf1.aol.com...
> >The only good things to come out of France were fancy pastries and Leslie
of
> them (male *and* female) were as rude as they come. They would tell you
how
> crude they thought Americans were, then they would take a leak into the
sewer.
That's why I only mentioned Leslie Caron. I figured if Cary Grant was once
married to her, then she probably shaved her armpits and bathed on at least
a semi-regular basis. She's still alive, by the way, and about to do
another movie. Hard to believe she is 70-years-old. I fell in love with
her when I first saw An American In Paris.
To be fair, we have women in the states that don't shave their pits, either,
and I think it's just horrible.
EPFCW
so...@webtv.net
of the meanings of that word "gay" {in fact I am not even "gay"-> in
the-> "happy" sense of that word}....So very very sorry to disappoint
you....So please REALLY DO put me on your "kill-file", permanently, and
don't pretend....for the 100th time!!....BUT-> really do it THIS
TIME....PLEASE!! Please be that 1% out of 100% that really does it and
don't just pretend. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD->
DO....IT...ALREADY->..."KILL-FILE ME!!" JEESH!!
And perhaps, you, Eddie Shivers, will get an even clearer idea of what I
am trying to convey to you right now-> with this very direct-> SPECIAL
SOUND CLIP BELOW!! Although with your lack of familiarity with any other
words besides "prolix" and "kill-file"->....it is really not certain
that even this sound clip will get through to you fully. But oh, well, I
guess you are not any denser or more confused than Lame Larry and
Jealous Justin and the rest of the other "piano anal dweeb ilk" here.
But again-> LISTEN CAREFULLY ALL OF YOU FOOLS!!....JEESH!!....
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http://192.41.19.35/goodgets/dontknok.wav
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And, finally, here {below} is the post that Eddie and Radu were both
referring to in this thread but were both either too lame and/or chicken
or "too whatever" to answer directly I guess. Only they know their
particular individual reasons for not responding directly to it. But I
know they both read it and are now referring to it in this thread.-> So
here it is BELOW!!
David
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
***************************************
Re: Limitations
Group: rec.music.makers.piano Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2001, 1:29pm From:
so...@webtv.net
Eddie Shivers, found a new word "prolix" and decided to use it because
he hoped it would seem like he might know something other than just all
of that lame typical computer dweeb jargon 'semi-words' stuff
like......."kill-file", etc. Hee. Hee.
But alas, he just comes across like the very retarded annoying son of
"Tony Randall" who finds one new word in the dictionary like his
"papa-Felix" and proudly uses it all day but instead of his father's fun
educational practice of a _"NEW WORD EACH DAY"_-> Mr. Eddie
"retard-Felix" Shivers-> just sticks with the SAME TWO WORDS EVERY
FREAKING DAY-> "kill-file" and/or "prolix".
YES, EVERY SINGLE DAY-> "kill-file" and/or "prolix". And I don't think
any of his posts have been longer than like maybe a paragraph-> EVER!! I
do not, personally, believe, Mr. Eddie Shivers, can even read more than
a paragraph at a time.....As he starts to "Shiver" when he sees all of
the words.
And now we know how he got the name-> "Eddie Shivers". Oh, well.
Important: P.S. BELOW TO RADU!!
Later,
David
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
P.S. Radu, still waiting for a serious thoughtful response to at least
the serious points in my "Davey Compilation" post. And you are certainly
smart enough to know what the serious points were. You wimped out "Big
time Big time" with that "Year of the Snake"-> CRAP!! That was pure
deflection and very weak. Try again and be serious this time-> cut all
of the proverbs and speak completely in English-> because I know you can
speak/type it very well. Do that, or just admit that you are
Chicken-Sh*t!! "Bock. Bock. Oui. Oui."
Again, just be honest, if you agree with the others then stand strong,
if you agree with me, then stand strong. If you truly are in between
then explain in detail-> WHY AND HOW!! I know you are from a completely
different culture, so I want to know truly what you think. Again cut the
crap and be serious for once. Indulge me at least one last time.
And unlike, "Eddie-Felix-Prolix-Retard", I, personally, hope your post
is very very long. I like reading as much as writing. And your stuff can
be very interesting.
Now, you see, there, Radu, I am confident enough to compliment you
because I am very secure in my own writing and talent. I do not need
someone to compliment me first. Even if they may be my enemy or
potential enemy, I can still see their worth in the world.
Listen, I am very strong and secure and very honest about how I feel
about everything and anything-> both in my "real life" and in my
"virtual life" as well. Obviously. So now you try. And don't hold back.
Give me your best shot "Snake"-> be it friendly or not. I am ready....I
am ALWAYS.....READY!! "I got my game face on!!"-> like I-> ALWAYS-> do->
SO-> Get serious-> RADU!! Or just admit you too are-> "Chicken-Sh*t"->
like way way too many others, especially, on this piano newsgroup and on
the internet in general.
Put-up or shut-up, Radu!! Now is the moment. And please be serious and
honest, just this once. No more sarcasm and-> NO MORE-> "Wimpy Snake
Proverb Deflections and Thinly-Veiled Smoke Screens" this time. Again,
get completely real, Radu!!....
Later,
David
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
{And also, Radu, let me know if you can do my radio show this Fall here
in the States, the invitation is still open for you, as a "hostile" or a
"non-hostile" guest!!!!}
Dwain Lee
Actually, although I have never been fortunate enough to have been to Paris,
I understand the underlying emotion that you have for it, as I've felt it in
other locales - Munich, Florence, Toronto, and my own small hometown
(picture Mayberry with coal mines - sense of place is not restricted only to
big, or even pretty, cities). We crazy architects call that feeling "a sense
of place," and (the good ones among us, anyway) are constantly trying to
imbue the buildings and spaces that we design, with that sense. I won't try
to describe it, as you've done so quite effectively already.
(...so take the following as EXTREMELY tongue in cheek...)
> You should understand that the french do not waste the few years they
> have to live ( a once only occasion) worrying about the health hazards.
or actually working for a living, rather than constantly whining about their
ever-decreasing workweek and ever-increasing public dole.
>They do not drink to intoxication
...and it's a good thing, too. Good Lord, they're obnoxious enough sober,
imagine a drunken Frenchman.
>they do not need courses in "how to get friends...
Yes, they do, they just refuse to take them.
> I know that what I said might look like stereotypes, ...
And everything I just said was stereotyping, and not at all serious. :-)
(remove tongue from cheek here...)
(snip of a wonderful dissertation on sense of place, and architecture, and a
comment that reminded me of getting similarly ripped off as a 24-year old in
Munich)
Very nicely said, all.
> I wrote this garbage and I've been too prolix (the word of the day),
Every once in a while, we all have to be prolix.
> And I try to remain european and refrain from attacking BBQ culture
Remain European, while still embracing BBQ culture. BBQ is universal,
transcending mere geographical boundaries; it is a state of mind where all,
even Francophiles, are welcome at the table.
>I cannot leave the group where I have so very good and
> true and fine friends. Friends like I never had before, altruists (not
> an insult !), witty and , sorry for this emotional outpourring, pure at
> heart.
>
Don't you dare even consider leaving. Your very good and true friends would
be very upset. And we're glad to see you back, after your recent silent
period.
> God bless you and God bless America for the fine people it has.
And God protect us from ourselves, American and otherwise, when necessary.
;-)
Dwain
Rick Clark
>Of course, if you like people saying that your opinion is garbage
>instead of simple stating that their experience is different...but then,
>this is the USENET...and the phrase "This is your opinion - which is
>wrong" is the most civilised one we should expect.
We are Americans, and the French hate Americans, and so the Americans
hate the French, and this is the Yin and the Yang, the glue that holds
the universe together. There will be lasting peace in the Middle East
before the French and the Americans will admit to any admiration for
each other. It would be the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. So when
you are taking the side of the French what can you expect but for the
Americans to stand in firm resolve and issue rude noises in your
direction?
Moliere:Fart jokes. The Louis': Mincing nancyboy bullies. French
police: Swaggering cross-dressing bullies. Bastille day:Legalized
hooliganism. French cuisine: trapping a helpless tiny sparrow in a
net, throwing it in a sautee pan while still alive, proclaiming the
beak is the best part and thus should be saved for last. French
engineering: the Citroen. French version of work: not working. French
cheese: curdled farts. French science: Holding up the work of
important scientific conferences until they agree to name more things
after Frenchmen.
Rick Clark
Larry
>
>...and it's a good thing, too. Good Lord, they're obnoxious enough sober,
>imagine a drunken Frenchman.
>
The movie "Deliverance" was filmed on the Chattahoochie River which flows
through Atlanta. When the Olympics were held here a few years ago, a local
comedian was talking about the various competitions, and when he came to the
rafting competition, said "If Ned Beatty can't make it down the "Hooch" what
chance do 4 Frenchmen in leotards have?"
Well.....*I* thought it was funny.......
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
> >>They do not drink to intoxication
> >
> >...and it's a good thing, too. Good Lord, they're obnoxious enough sober,
> >imagine a drunken Frenchman.
> >
>
>
> The movie "Deliverance" was filmed on the Chattahoochie River which flows
> through Atlanta. When the Olympics were held here a few years ago, a
local
That's where Wayne Williams used to dump all those bodies, if I remember
correctly. I remember a lot of bad Wayne Williams' jokes...
Wintergreen
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
> Moliere:Fart jokes.
Farts are funny.
Wintergreen
mason clark
French Canadians are in no way related to France or Paris.
Viva la Revolucion ! Someone has to keep the spirit alive.
Lovers of France, go see *Quills* and *Chocolat* -- in that
order -- you need some fun after *Quills*.
If I could speak French, I'd move to Paris if I could afford it.
Mason
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
news:14948-3A...@storefull-626.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> Dear, Mr. Eddie Shivers, I am not gay even in the slightest sense of any
I'd like to meet you in person, maybe have a beer with you to see what you
are really like. I'd like to talk to your neighbors and friends. I want to
learn what makes Davey tick!
I blew away my killfile the other day. I'd like to not killfile you again.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems at some point you contributed positive stuff
to this NG. I could be full of shit, I dunno.
Me, I'm 6-foot, male, white, flamboyantly heterosexual, 20 pounds overweight
(I always drop the weight in the summers), own a crappy Campbell & Kohler
console (but I love it anyway!), have arthritis in my right leg (hopefully
not spreading), live in Orlando, drink too much, curse too much, take the
Lord's name in vain too much, give a couple of bucks to the Salvation Army
guy with the bell at X-Mas time, am a member of the vast right-wing
conspiracy, know all C-Major chords on the guitar except F is a real bitch,
hate cats and dogs, love women except for the ones I used to be with, and I
have a short-term memory problem. I can't think of anything else right now,
except that it's time to go to bed.
Eddie S, nka ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
(The S doesn't stand for Shivers, by the way)
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aa84ca3...@news.mindspring.com>...
>each other. It would be the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. So when
>you are taking the side of the French what can you expect but for the
>Americans to stand in firm resolve and issue rude noises in your
>direction?
Well, I hope you don't mean to refer to me as an American issuing rude
noises. Come to think of it, I hope you don't mean to refer to Radu's rude
stereotypes as "taking the side of the French." Although both would be
somewhat humourous.
--
Alice V. Liesman, whose nationality you don't know
Dwain Lee
major reason for dogs' popularity as pets.
Dwain
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen <odrif...@getridofthis.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:H0_p6.11123$68.21...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
Rick Clark
>Well, I hope you don't mean to refer to me as an American issuing rude
>noises. Come to think of it, I hope you don't mean to refer to Radu's rude
>stereotypes as "taking the side of the French." Although both would be
>somewhat humourous.
>
>--
>Alice V. Liesman, whose nationality you don't know
That's a real hard one to guess there Alice, EH? Let's see, if it
looks American, sounds American, and thinks American, must be
Canadien! But try to get a little sun......
It's OK, you are *almost* American. You just need more guns and
lawyers up there. We are more than full, here, so they should be
spilling over the border soon. Just go down and scoop them up. Then,
when the French make their move, we will both be *ready*, no? It will
be "Alouette *this*, cheesebreath!" BOOM!
Heehee
Rick Clark
Martin J. Paton
wrote:
>I also remember that the women were nasty, didn't shave, smelled, and most of
>them (male *and* female) were as rude as they come. They would tell you how
>crude they thought Americans were, then they would take a leak into the sewer.
Reminds me of New York.
Martin J. Paton
By the same token, the only good things to come out of America were
the French (and the germans, italians, british. :) )
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aa902dc...@news.mindspring.com>...
>That's a real hard one to guess there Alice, EH? Let's see, if it
>looks American, sounds American, and thinks American, must be
>Canadien! But try to get a little sun......
Wrong.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Radu Focshaner
> Come to think of it, I hope you don't mean to refer to Radu's rude
> stereotypes as "taking the side of the French." Although both would be
> somewhat humourous.
Dear Ms. Alice,
I sincerely appologize if ,in anyway, unintentionally, I offended you. I
never intended to be rude, it's not may way to behave with rudeness. If
I used the stereotypes, it was because I wanted to give a fast reply to
the accusation of the french being "snooty". I perhaps choosed some used
, shallow, stereotypes, but they come from love , not from disdain (as I
use to tease someone I love). Your reaction troubled me very much, could
not sleep or work the night. So I wrote my reply, trying to explain what
I love in Paris and in the french people I've met. I'm not good at
english, so probably I did not succeed too well. Perhaps I would have to
use the words of Piaf song, Je ne regrette rien, to explain the french
philosophy of life. It could be that I have a nicer than reality idea of
the french, but it is what I choose to think about France and its
people. I prefer to look at the brighter sides, not at the ugly ones. I
do it for my soul, for my sanity.
I lived with french music and literature since I was a kid. And it was
only in 1988 when my dream to visit Paris came true. And since , I was a
few times more there, not for short stays. So it hurts me when I hear
bad comments about France and Paris.
Although I did not experienced "hate for foreigners", I know that in
the nineties, the french government took measures to "educate" the
frenchmen to be nicer to the tourists since the tourism is a major
"industry" with millions of tourists pouring in France each year. I had
to encourage many people to travel to France because of the stories of
those "unfortunate" ones who only speak basic english and could not
mannage their way in France.
Once again, please accept my sincere appology for any offense I might
have caused you,
Radu
Tom Shaw
I dont quite understand what you meant by Radu's rude stereotypes. He is
anything but rude.
TS
"Alice Liesman" <lie...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:kOcq6.2214$tr5....@news1.telusplanet.net...
Rick Clark
>Wrong.
Wrong???? OK, give me ONE MORE TRY, and if I don't get this one I
promise to spank myself soundly. Actually, I may do that anyway. It's
been a while.
You are not Canadian, but you are a member of a sovereign nation of
peoples that exists within the borders of Canada? Non? Oui?
Regards,
Rick Clark
Adam Bravo
news:NK%p6.15$68.5...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
a)Tried barreforms?
b) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think an Fmajor chord was a C major
chord.
Larry
>Wrong???? OK, give me ONE MORE TRY, and if I don't get this one I
>promise to spank myself soundly. Actually, I may do that anyway. It's
>been a while.
I have no clue where Alice is from, but if I were to take a guess and get it
wrong, I want the opportunity to choose which one of you gives me the
spanking.....
(just kidding)
Alice Liesman
Tom Shaw wrote in message
<4627D149AE75C056.7C277896...@lp.airnews.net>...
>Alice,
>I dont quite understand what you meant by Radu's rude stereotypes. He is
>anything but rude.
Normally, yes, but the part about the French smoking, drinking, eating and
wenching is, I think, a very rude characterization. I didn't think much of
the expanded version either. Nothing to what some others said afterwards,
mind you, but by then I didn't think it worth my time to comment on
something that looked like a flame war in the making.
--
Alice V. Liesman
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
news:u2iq6.31013$jg1.6...@news1.alsv1.occa.home.com...
It's not. But all notes of an F Major chord are notes, of course, in the
scale of C Major. It's also part of the famous I-IV-V progression that you
first learn about when playing guitar (C-F-G). This is the approach my text
uses. Except that Bdim isn't mentioned... (or as my music teach calls it,
B-minor-dim)
Wintergreen
Alice Liesman
Radu Focshaner wrote in message <3AA9F4...@writeme.com>...
>I sincerely appologize if ,in anyway, unintentionally, I offended you. I
Thank you, that's big of you. I thought your long post was interesting, but
it seems you only saw - or paid attention to - the pretty, visitor-friendly
parts. Saint Michel may be very cute, but what about the squallid ethnic
ghettos? Also, I think that either you live somewhere really nasty, or you
see Paris through pink goggles. The smog is bad enough that the government
has to issue pollution warnings in the summer (whatever those do remains a
mystery). The Bois de Boulogne crawls with prostitutes. The marxist-leninist
philosophy is very much a part of the French culture, and I'm sure if you
asked people on the street, they'd be more concerned about their summer
vacation than about all the artists you named put together. The kids do read
in bookstores until close, but that's not specifically Parisian - they do
the same here in Edmonton. And the CRS on the street are actually necessary.
To say nothing of the noise... When you phone people in Paris sometimes you
can hear the street noise through their phone on the fourth floor. Yuk!
Paris is very nice for tourists, but I don't know how anyone can stand to
live there.
I also think that what you said about the French, even the second time
around, remains a vast over-generalization, even though you meant well.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aa99a2b...@news.mindspring.com>...
>You are not Canadian, but you are a member of a sovereign nation of
>peoples that exists within the borders of Canada? Non? Oui?
The only sovereign nation within the borders of Canada is Canada. Anything
to the contrary is just wishful thinking, and all the wishful thinkers are
citizens of Canada, unlike me.
But hey, third time's the charm, they say.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Alice Liesman
Larry wrote in message <20010310010018...@ng-fh1.aol.com>...
>I have no clue where Alice is from, but if I were to take a guess and get
it
>wrong, I want the opportunity to choose which one of you gives me the
>spanking.....
No can do. I will have no part in spanking you, so it would have to be Rick.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Rick Clark
>But hey, third time's the charm, they say.
One more try, eh? You are a merciful master. OK, you live in Canada,
belong to an indigenous culture that traditionally resided on what is
now claimed to be Canadian land. You are not a Canadian citizen, but
Canada does not grant nationhood to such peoples, either.
How'd I do?
Rick Clark
Rick Clark
>No can do. I will have no part in spanking you, so it would have to be Rick.
C'mon, Larry... Spanky, spanky...
Adam Bravo
> "Adam Bravo" <mra...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:u2iq6.31013$jg1.6...@news1.alsv1.occa.home.com...
> > "ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen" <odrif...@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:NK%p6.15$68.5...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
> > > <so...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > news:14948-3A...@storefull-626.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > know all C-Major chords on the guitar except F is a real bitch,
> >
> > a)Tried barreforms?
> > b) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think an Fmajor chord was a C
> major
> > chord.
>
> It's not. But all notes of an F Major chord are notes, of course, in the
> scale of C Major. It's also part of the famous I-IV-V progression that
you
> first learn about when playing guitar (C-F-G).
After which you can play every pop song ever written.
> This is the approach my text
> uses. Except that Bdim isn't mentioned... (or as my music teach calls it,
> B-minor-dim)
Is that Bmalt?
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
> > It's not. But all notes of an F Major chord are notes, of course, in
the
> > scale of C Major. It's also part of the famous I-IV-V progression that
> you
> > first learn about when playing guitar (C-F-G).
Except if you're talking about the Beatles. Those guys wrote some really
tough stuff for guitar players, in my opinion.
>After which you can play every pop song ever written.
>
> > This is the approach my text
> > uses. Except that Bdim isn't mentioned... (or as my music teach calls
it,
> > B-minor-dim)
>
> Is that Bmalt?
Well, years ago I was taught that flatting the third made the chord a minor,
and flatting the third AND the fifth a diminished. I have never seen an
example I can recall of only the fifth being flatted, but the fifth being
sharped makes an augmented chord. At any rate, my most recent piano teacher
calls the chord with the third and the fifth flatted, "minor-diminished".
I've never heard of B minor-alt, which I guess is what you're calling it.
Wintergreen
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aaa8184...@news.mindspring.com>...
>One more try, eh? You are a merciful master. OK, you live in Canada,
>belong to an indigenous culture that traditionally resided on what is
>now claimed to be Canadian land. You are not a Canadian citizen, but
>Canada does not grant nationhood to such peoples, either.
Er... what? Where did you get the idea that I "belong to an indigenous
culture" of Canada? All such people get to be Canadian citizens, by the way,
albeit they're treated like dirt anyway. I am not Canadian. Not Albertan,
not Quebecoise, not any variety of First Nation. I just live here.
So that's two countries of which I'm not a citizen. I think that leaves
about 200 that you haven't tried yet. 8*)
--
Alice V. Liesman
Radu Focshaner
> Saint Michel may be very cute, but what about the squallid ethnic
> ghettos?
Actually I stayed for a while in a suburb with mixed ethnic population
and it seemed very clean and nice to mee (not luxury, yet no slums). And
I don't think people move from New York because of Harlem.
>Also, I think that either you live somewhere really nasty, or you
> see Paris through pink goggles.
I see Paris through pink goggles. It is my choice, I brain-washed myself
for years in order to enjoy Paris (though I very much loved London which
was not my dream).
> The marxist-leninist philosophy is very much a part of the French culture,
For sometime is was mine too (born in Romania and a believer).
> The kids do read in bookstores until close, but that's not specifically Parisian
Compared to what I'm accustomed it is a big thing. Here kids do not
read, they watch TV (Pokemon). Books are expensive, so few people buy
them (except cooking books which are bought as presents).
> To say nothing of the noise... When you phone people in Paris sometimes you
> can hear the street noise through their phone on the fourth floor. Yuk!
Oh, I love the noise. I miss the noise. I was born in Bucharest. It was,
sometimes before WWII, called the Paris of the East (especially the
architecture). I love the crowded towns, with lots of people rushing,
the honking busses, the trams, the noisy caffees ( London has even more
red buses and black cabs and a "stuffed" underground). Where I live, I
can hear the birds and the "silence". I miss the BIG TOWN ! And I'm not
sarcastic.
> Paris is very nice for tourists, but I don't know how anyone can stand to
> live there.
Perhaps many are not happy to live there, but me, who love the town ,
even the big noisy trucks picking the garbage in the morning (Paris
s'eveille..) , I would be happy to live in Paris.
So let's somke the peace pipe...
Radu
========================================
I really have no life...
I go around reading posts and,without having any original thought,
or adding anything to the subject,simply make short simpleminded
remarQs.
Rick Clark
>Er... what? Where did you get the idea that I "belong to an indigenous
>culture" of Canada?
Hearing Cree spoken.
Not that that can't happen some other way, but what other clues did I
have? What I got in this NG is all I had to go on. You use the
language style and seem to have the "attitude" of a native North
American. I figured U.S. but no, so Canadian. No, so I took the hint
from the Cree comment.
I am defeated. =whimper=
(EnglandIrelandWalesScotland????)
Rick Clark
so...@webtv.net
<Begin Eddie Snip>
Re: Vive la France !
Group: rec.music.makers.piano Date: Fri, Mar 9, 2001, 7:37am (EST+5)
From: odrif...@remove.yahoo.com (ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen)
I'd like to meet you in person, maybe have a beer with you to see what
you are really like. I'd like to talk to your neighbors and friends. I
want to learn what makes Davey tick!
I blew away my killfile the other day. I'd like to not killfile you
again. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems at some point you contributed
positive stuff to this NG. I could be full of shit, I dunno.
Me, I'm 6-foot, male, white, flamboyantly heterosexual, 20 pounds
overweight (I always drop the weight in the summers), own a crappy
Campbell & Kohler console (but I love it anyway!), have arthritis in my
right leg (hopefully not spreading), live in Orlando, drink too much,
curse too much, take the Lord's name in vain too much, give a couple of
bucks to the Salvation Army guy with the bell at X-Mas time, am a member
of the vast right-wing conspiracy, know all C-Major chords on the guitar
except F is a real bitch, hate cats and dogs, love women except for the
ones I used to be with, and I have a short-term memory problem. I can't
think of anything else right now, except that it's time to go to bed.
Eddie S, nka ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
(The S doesn't stand for Shivers, by the way)
<End of Eddie Snip>
***********************************
Begin Davey Slayer Response Text-> (c)2001
Okay!!....Hhhhhmmm!?....Hee. Hee.
Even though that last post by you {above} sounded like some kind of a
"personal ad" from hell, Mr. Eddie Shivers, I still will take "THAT"
over hearing those annoying and lame retard words like "prolix" or
"kill-file" from you-> for the 100th freaking time!!
As far as your comment to me about how I was "contributing positive
posts at one time in the past"->....All I can say is-> TO ME ALL OF MY
POSTS HAVE BEEN POSITIVE!!
There is not one post from me that I am not proud of. All of my posts
were either very loopy funny and/or entertaining and/or very serious and
even the serious ones were very purposely funny at times.
Now, some may not understand and/or agree with all or any of my serious
points in my posts and/or all or any of my seriously funny humorous
points, as well, perhaps, but, even so, that STILL does not make it,
suddenly, "not a positive post", just because a few or even if a
majority in a small group {like the very small "virtual group"-> The
RMMP} disagree with me. So what if they disagree!!
I would maybe be concerned if they ever actually LIKED my stuff
'wholeheartedly' in any way, shape or form....because then I would know
I was doing something very wrong if such warped hateful bigoted
close-minded people started to like any of "MY" stuff. Now then I may be
concerned a bit. Hee. Hee.
But, seriously, a person would truly have to be awfully weak to actually
think like that->Meaning: change their mind about their own words and
thoughts based solely on "a bunch of lame Usenet boob's very jealous
and/or just very warped and narrow-minded opinions of your words,
etc."}.
But, unfortunately on Usenet, more people than NOT-> _"DO"_ think weakly
like that. But, fortunately for me, I am the complete opposite of those
very weak "cult/pack follower types of people". This is certain.
You see, it always -> "REMAINS" <-in my steadfast and steady unwavering
mind-> STILL->...THE-> "VERY SAME POST" and the-> very same original
words....written by me!!....That I was ALREADY "very proud of and
pleased with" to begin with-> before I even posted it and before all of
the negative and/or positive reactions began.
You see, it does not change in my mind because others think differently
of it after posting. Truly. I know what I know and I feel what I feel->
REGARDLESS OF ALL OTHER'S REACTIONS-> BE THEY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE!!
I am very strong and solid with those types of thoughts and my core
beliefs, etc. I will never be dissuaded from what I know is good and
what I know is bad....and for Clint Eastwood fans....let me add...."what
I know is ugly". Hee. Hee.
As far as "what makes me, 'Davey', tick": It is the constant clear
knowledge in my heart and soul when I have succeeded in making my strong
points and/or knowing when I have succeeded in entertaining and/or being
very funny....THAT IS TRULY-> all I need-> EVER!! Truly. I do not need
"parroting replies" saying "I agree" or "LOL" or whatever. I really just
know when I "hit it". And I am TRULY highly entertained by my own words
and I laugh when I read my own posts and I sometimes even laugh at my
own "intended" serious parts.
Because I really do find the simultaneous uttering of the word->
"Usenet" and the phrase-> "Serious Debating" to be an "Oxymoron" in the
most extreme repulsive sense of the word "Oxymoron". Hee. Hee.
I simply do not take hardly anything "seriously" or I don't take
anything "TOO TERRIBLY SERIOUS" on "USENET AT LEAST" <-I guess I should
really say it like that-> to be more accurate. And this includes even my
OWN most serious points at times in some of my very serious posts.
Because even "real life" {be it very serious or not} is STILL ALWAYS
VERY FUNNY to me and USENET is ESPECIALLY-> EXTREMELY FUNNY to me!! Hee.
Hee.
Why people take these goofy newsgroups so seriously is beyond me. But
they truly do remind me of when my best friend in like 3rd grade and I
started a "science club" in our Catholic grade school and we made up all
of these geeky rules and "a charter" and we approached it all so
seriously that the whole thing quickly became an unintentional joke and
we both {even at that age} realized how geeky we were both behaving and
we dropped the whole thing and decided, instead, to just walk to the
store to get a couple of "Coconut Cake Dolly Madison Zingers and a Can
of Pepsi".<- Now that's COOL!! I TELL YUH!! Hee. Hee.
But that "goofy overly-serious science club idea from a couple of
third-graders" is exactly what _"IS"_ A _"USENET NEWSGROUP"_ and what
happens EVERY DAY-> on USENET and with so called "adults"-> EVERY SINGLE
FREAKING DAY!! It is truly pathetic to me. And many of you geeks just
don't see how odd and foolish it comes across.
People!!....again, it is all just typing words on an electronic bulletin
board to me {with some pictures and/or sound files thrown in for an
added geek bonus every now and again}....but all of those way way whacky
people that seem to always permeate and overwhelm all of these
newsgroups and who post the most....ARE.....always the ones who act like
they are running a country and/or a religion and how they "have to keep
the group unified" and how they feel they must "leave or stay" for the
"good of the group". Hee. Hee. I find that very funny and thoroughly
pathetic at the same time. But oh, well. WHATEVER!!
But getting back to beautiful _"ME"_ and my wonderful memorable
posts->........HEY!!....of course, I do love it when someone does stick
their neck out and will openly agree or laugh with me even though I am
the "bad boy" or the "outsider that is not a part of the piano anal
dweeb newsgroup ilk"....BUT I DON'T NEED THAT REASSURANCE AT ALL-> EVER.
I know when I am good or very good or the few times I fumbled or dropped
the ball. I am like a pitcher for the Yankees that gets booed by his own
fans but he still goes out and pitches a winning game.
I.....always.....play....ball...REGARDLESS and I play to win whether the
crowd is pulling for me or not. ALWAYS!!
Honestly, one of the main reasons I decided to go back into "talk radio"
full time {this Fall in the States} is BECAUSE of all of the amazingly
whacked almost violent and very dramatic reactions to my personality and
words at the RMMP and it started over pretty mild words like "snoot" and
"pompous" and "artist". I had not planned on that. I just, naturally,
without trying, it seems, just push people's buttons and get them to act
and react....well.....I seem to get them to act "real
stupid".....SOMETIMES....but real "HONEST-> stupid"....so it DOES make
for a very entertaining and sometimes hilarious enlightening
exchange....to say the least. Oui. Oui.
But, I, even in the heat of it all have never said anything, I have not
thought over for a few milliseconds at least, first. Unlike, it surely
seems, many of my opponents here. I truly wonder if "they" are proud of
all of "their" posts. I sure hope not!! But nothing would surprise me.
Oh,
well.
Later,
David
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
P.S. Good luck to you, Eddie, truly, no hard feelings. Your quite goofy
obsessive "Roadrunner" and "Prolix" and "Kill-file" posts have inspired
quite a few very funny response posts from me, "Davey" so, I am
grateful!! And "Don't Shiver be Happy!!", "Mr. Eddie Shivers"!! Hee.
Hee. And, really, just look at me "Davey Slayer" like a "much younger"
and a "much more loopy hip"-> version-> of "Mr. Don Rickles"-> BUT WITH
ALSO LOTS and LOTS MORE HAIR AND OF COURSE LOTS and LOTS MORE "WORDS"!!
Hee. Hee. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!....
...Again good luck to you, "Eddie in Florida!!" You'll need it!!: with
both a Bush as your President and another one as your Governor. YOU ARE
THOROUGHLY FREAKING CURSED WITH A BUNCH OF "THICK DENSE SHRUBS" RUNNING
YOUR LIFE-> STATE AND FEDERAL-> LEVEL-> BOTH!! How pathetic is that. I
TELL YUH!! {But, you know, really, I, Davey, may actually live in
Florida, "my own self", and may just be saying all of that to confuse a
few "very curious warped idiot loser anal piano ilk people" in the
RMMP....or I may be just saying this right here right now....to confuse
the very same "very curious warped way whacked idiot loser anal piano
ilk people" as well....Hee. Hee.}
But, I do not think I could, personally, easily and effortlessly smile
through, that State/Federal: "Double-Bush-Whammy-Curse" in
"Flori-Duh!"....Or could I!? Hee. Hee. Maybe "I AM" smiling in Florida->
RIGHT NOW!! Or maybe I am smiling elsewhere. Hee. Hee. I will say it is
one of about like 50 states that I may be livin' and smilin' in at any
particular moment in time. Hee. Hee.
BUT, now, please, don't get me wrong on the "Bush Thang"....AS I TRULY
DO LOVE THAT->...."Bush"....<-more than anything else in life!!....But
only the sweet and friendly "Bush" is truly the kind of "Bush" for me->
the one that begins only with the small letter "b"....Yes. Yes. That's
right. Oui. Oui. Yep, that tight, small and toasty wet and warm sweet
sweet letter "b"....Well, I think you see. Yes. Yes. Oui. Oui. Oh,
YES!!, indeed, and a very very sweet tight tart spongy steamy
moist....yes, moistly waiting....waiting for me....Yes. Yes.-> "My Own
Private Lady Oui. Oui." : Which is, actually, the "temporary working
title" for The Completely Revamped Heterosexual French Remake Version of
"My Own Private Idaho" YEAH BABY!! YEAH!! Hee. Hee. Oui. Oui.
"My Own Private Lady Oui. Oui."
Starring JERRY LEWIS-> as DAVEY SLAYER!! Opening later this year at the
Cannes Film Festival.
Excerpt from the movie:
"Oh, lady.....OOOOOOHHHH LADY......Hey Lady......That's a "Oui. Oui."
Oh, LADY!!.....Oh, DEAN...Oh, DEAN.....That's a lady, Dean....That's a
lady and her "Oui. Oui.", Dean!!! That's a "Oui. Oui." Dean Oh,
Dean!!...."Yes. Yes. Oui. Oui."...."Oh, Lady!!....Oh, Dean!!" Hee. Hee.
Hoo! Ah! Yes. Yes. Oui. Oui. Hee. Hee.
And WHATEVER!!!!
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
sid blum
ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen
news:pRAq6.14779$Ac5.3...@e3500-chi1.usenetserver.com...
>
>
>
> <so...@webtv.net>
>
> snip
Forget his post -- his P.S. was too prolix.
Wintergreen
so...@webtv.net
internet idiot....without anything fresh at all to offer and he just
presents nothing but lame tired newsgroup words like <snip>. I am very
surprised, Mr. Bum, that you didn't go for the more "saucy and
innovative"->....<plonk>....<-instead-> as your highly dramatic <one
lame word> response. Hee. Hee. Very lame. Truly.
Oh, well, maybe the next "winner" who responds will go for the dynamic
one word response of that always freshly effective and cutting edge
"word"->....<plonk>....as their very tough "one word" political
statement and it would be just the sort of thing to make the computer
dweebs snort milk out of their noses due to their uncontrolled laughter
that will surely quickly ensue from that great great word <plonk>. Hee.
Hee.
Which will then surely bring a response from someone else of "ROTFLMAO"
or "LOL" or maybe even a <blush> and a <smile> with an added bonus of
one of these-> :o)....Or how about a whole gaggle of these
giggles->....:o) :o) :o) :o) :o) <-Just can't get enough of those
friendly smilin' tribbles-> :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) I can feel the cyber
warmth just oozing from those smilin' smiley fuzzy-wuzzy cyber
poopy-puppy-guppies-> :o) :o) :o) :o)....They are my "cyber
cuddly-wuddlies" that I can share with all of my <plonking cyber dweeb
retard snip pals>.
But I must be ever so careful to stay away from those scary "spammers"
and, especially, all of those-> "big bad trolls"<-As these people might
confuse me with something other than my pre-approved acceptable
cult/newsgroup language/words like those always fun and and warmly
familiar and highly acceptable words like <snip> and <plonk>....I like
<snip> and <plonk> as these words always make me feel safe and secure as
a cyber dweeb who has just made it home to my "cyber geek cottage". As
<plonk> and <snip> really feel like home to me....I feel all numb and
calm when I see these words and when I use them as well. Because
whenever I see a way way differing opposing opinion that doesn't seem
quite average or typical, I just attack it with the pre-approved cult
words like <troll> or <plonk> or <kill-file> and then hopefully those
scary outside new ideas and thoughts will just "go away", eventually. Or
we average dweebs surely hope they do, at least.
Because these so called <trolls> with all of their <differing opinions>
might actually confuse me with some kind of "scary fresh strong
innovative point of view" that differs completely from the average
typical internet user. And this may upset the sweet balance of
mediocrity and conformity on the internet and this would not please "Big
Newsgroup Brother" AT ALL. No. No.
"HELP ME!!-> I HEARD A FRESH POINT OF VIEW-> WHAT SHOULD I DO NEWSGROUP
GOD!!" Hee. Hee.
God almighty what a bunch of internet idiot geeks. LOSERS!!
"Davey Slayer Productions"
(c)2001
WHATEVER!! Hee. Hee. :o) :o) :o) :o)
Adam Bravo
"ex-P.F.C. Wintergreen" <odrif...@removethisstuff.yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:%Ovq6.5446$Pq3.1...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
> "Adam Bravo" <mra...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:%Avq6.31708$jg1.6...@news1.alsv1.occa.home.com...
> > > It's not. But all notes of an F Major chord are notes, of course, in
> the
> > > scale of C Major. It's also part of the famous I-IV-V progression
that
> > you
> > > first learn about when playing guitar (C-F-G).
>
> Except if you're talking about the Beatles. Those guys wrote some really
> tough stuff for guitar players, in my opinion.
I used to think so, but now I realize it's all easy. I see the Beatles now
as people who had little to no knowledge of how chords are "supposed" to
work, but were so talented that they were able to make it sound good.
Especially late Beatles. Some songs are just all major chords combined in
different ways and with melodies implying neat upper structures.
> > > This is the approach my text
> > > uses. Except that Bdim isn't mentioned... (or as my music teach calls
> it,
> > > B-minor-dim)
> >
> > Is that Bmalt?
>
> Well, years ago I was taught that flatting the third made the chord a
minor,
> and flatting the third AND the fifth a diminished. I have never seen an
> example I can recall of only the fifth being flatted,
I see them all the time. Maj7b5, 7b5, all sorts of different things.
> sharped makes an augmented chord. At any rate, my most recent piano
teacher
> calls the chord with the third and the fifth flatted, "minor-diminished".
> I've never heard of B minor-alt, which I guess is what you're calling it.
It was a joke. I thought you would point out something about malts, as in
sweets.
If you told me, "play a C minor-diminished in root position," I would play a
C, Eb, F#, G, because it's not standard terminology. I was calling it
altered because it contained a natural and flat 5th. It was just a little
attempt at silliness.
amoli...@visi-dot-com.com
Alice Liesman <lie...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>
>Rick Clark wrote in message <3aaa8184...@news.mindspring.com>...
>So that's two countries of which I'm not a citizen. I think that leaves
>about 200 that you haven't tried yet. 8*)
You guys want to take the guessing game to email? I don't
care where what's her name is from, and I dare say very few other people
do.
Thanks,
Andrew
Arlene Usui
Cult member #88
so...@webtv.net
Group: rec.music.makers.piano Date: Sun, Mar 11, 2001, 7:52pm (EST+5)
From: au...@ix.netcom.com (Arlene Usui)
Your In Box is full... again.
Cult member #88
<Arlene Piano Cult Snip Out and Poof>
*****************************
Davey Slayer Response (c)2001->
Thanks again....my favorite cool "girly-girl piano space alien
cultist"....You are....My one and only-> "Sweet Miss Arlene". Or is that
"Something's Sweetly Amiss with that-> Arlene!!" Hee. Hee. Live long and
prosper and 'boogie oogie oogie' piano cult lady space girl.
And you know, Arlene, if I were going to be a "numbered" piano cult
member....I would, personally, surely shoot for the #69....And I ain't
talking no "call return" in this particular sit-u-a-tion....you dig what
I'm sprayin', Arlene!! YEAH GIRL!! That's what I'm talkin' about. Mmmm.
Hhhhm. Dat's right. Dat's right. Uh-huh!! Oui.Oui.<-#69->Oui.Oui. Either
way you look....-> up <-or-> down <-or-> side to side. The "Oui. Oui."
is in da house!!....there ain't no place to hide from da sweet sweet
"Oui. Oui." I TELL YUH!! The "Oui. Oui.'s" are everywhere "Oui." look.
Hee. Hee.
Now that's my kind of piano cult. I TELL YUH!! Oh, LADY!! Oh, "Oui.
Oui." Oh, Dean, that's a lady, Dean and that's a "Oui. Oui."!! OH,
LADY!! Hey, Lady....Yes, Lady. Oui.-> LADY-> Yes.-> Lady!! Oui. Oui.
DEAN....OH, DEAN!!
And now Dean sings a few of his hits-> "Everybody Loves a little
"Frenchy" sometimes. Everybody needs a little "Oui. Oui." Every Now and
Again".....When the "Oui. Oui." Hits Your Eye Like a Big Pizza
Pie....That May Be a....Yeast Infection." Hee. Hee. French. French.
Cranberry Juice. Cranberry Juice. Hee. Hee.
Okay, Arlene, I am clearing out my Song4/Box even as "Oui." speak.
Thanks, again. Yes. Yes. Oui. Oui. And I am now sticking out my tongue
at you in a very very friendly and warm-> "Frenchy French
Salute"...Mmmhhm!! YEAH!! Yes. Yes. Oui. Oui.-> in honor of all French
people, and, especially, in honor of my favorite "Frenchy"-> Mr. French,
from "Family Affair". Hee. Hee.
And by the way, not to be a "Family Affair Downer Dude", but "Buffy"
committed suicide and "Sissy" is now a "Bitter Butch lesbian" who truly
hates being called "Sissy" and "Jody" now collects food stamps and flips
burgers part-time at "Chuck E. Cheese"....As I saw him in that Rat
Restaurant peering out the cartoon rat window this last Winter while I
was pouring buckets of water on the sidewalk outside the Cartoon Rat
Place as part of my "Stop the Chuck E. Madness" plan!!
And it was really quite simple....->"Hopefully"....<- I thought-> lots
and lots of ice would mercifully form by the time another clueless
joyous giggly loud family would come skipping outside after emerging
from that "hell hole of cartoon rats, pizza, kids, balloons and
clowns"-> and my simple humble hope was-> that-> at least one of those
annoying happy families-> would all slip 'magically' in unison and fall
in one very loud harmoniously musical and soothing->"Chuck E. Cheese"->
THUD!!
But "Curse that Rat" it was only like 34 degrees that day!! So the
annoying "Giggles, Rats and Cheese" continue. But
my....valiant....struggle....must go on. Hee. Hee.
Alice Liesman
Radu Focshaner wrote in message <3AAB37...@writeme.com>...
>Actually I stayed for a while in a suburb with mixed ethnic population
>and it seemed very clean and nice to mee (not luxury, yet no slums). And
Where? West side or north/east?
>I don't think people move from New York because of Harlem.
But if the "nice" parts are reason enough to like Paris, shouldn't the bad
parts be reason enough not to like it? 8*)
>I see Paris through pink goggles. It is my choice, I brain-washed myself
>for years in order to enjoy Paris (though I very much loved London which
>was not my dream).
Ok then. That explains our differences. 8*)
>Oh, I love the noise. I miss the noise. I was born in Bucharest. It was,
Ik! I suppose that too explains a lot. You can't like Paris if you're not a
big-city time person. I'll take a cabin in the woods in Montana over Paris
anytime. Better yet, Wyoming.
>Perhaps many are not happy to live there, but me, who love the town ,
>even the big noisy trucks picking the garbage in the morning (Paris
>s'eveille..) , I would be happy to live in Paris.
That song about "Paris s'eveille" is great. I love it.
>So let's somke the peace pipe...
Ok.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Alice Liesman
Rick Clark wrote in message <3aaaab32...@news.mindspring.com>...
>Hearing Cree spoken.
I studied it in university in Calgary, AB. To fit in better with the native
women with whom I volunteered at the women's shelter. Nice try, though. 8*)
>have? What I got in this NG is all I had to go on. You use the
>language style and seem to have the "attitude" of a native North
>American. I figured U.S. but no, so Canadian. No, so I took the hint
Language, yes. Attitude? All you know is that I hate Paris. That's not
limited to North America. But, I've been living here for almost 10 years, I
suppose I must have picked up more than just the language. I even went to a
hockey game once to "fit in." Yech!
>(EnglandIrelandWalesScotland????)
Nononono. 8*)
Don't give up. I'm enjoying this.
--
Alice V. Liesman
Martin J. Paton
<lie...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>Nononono. 8*)
>
>Don't give up. I'm enjoying this.
Australia / NZ?
Rick Clark
>nasty allegations I've seen
>thrown at "the French" don't apply to me and my fellows in the first place.
>Oh yes, I forgot to mention, I'm French, and Parisian at that. No,
>seriously, it's the level of gullibility displayed here I found almost
>frightening. All in all, it makes me feel quite sad.
>
>The funniest of all must have been "French hate Americans, and Americans
>hate French". Now that's cool, it leaves a lot of space for debate, doesn't
>it?
It's just a joke. It's called "satire" and it makes fun of a
stereotype. I'm afraid you are the gullible one. The Americans v.
French thing is a meme in American humor. I am impressed by the fact
you find it "sickening". You French are easily disgusted by us
Americains, non?
Rick Clark
(Ze cow, she is laughing)
Larry
>were destroyed decades ago (Larry, I never witnessed these, and I'm 27. This
>must have been a long time indeed.)
Raphael,
Let me start by apologizing to you if I insulted you with what I said. You are
a nice guy, and I wouldn't insult you intentionally for anything.
That said, most of what was said as I read it was not really making fun of the
French, but making fun of a stereotypical image. As to the toilets in the
street, it was in 1976, in the month of July. They stood about every half
block or so.
So again, I apologize. You and I have spoken before, and you are an extremely
nice man.
Larry Fletcher
Pianos Inc
Atlanta GA
Dealer/technician
Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
Http://www.pianosinc.net
Dwain Lee
mean-spirited, attack on France or the French people, I seriously and
sincerely apologize. In truth, I was really more trying to make a friendly,
good-natured poke at Radu, whom I consider a very good friend, for his
admittedly over-idealized perception of the French; far more so than my
actual opinions of the French. If you took it in any other manner, I'm
sorry. I can assure you that I do not actually feel that way, and I thought
I made that clear with two broad declarations to that effect in my post.
Nevertheless, you are the world's authority on your own thoughts, and if you
say you were offended, then you were. Again, please accept my apologies.
Realizing that this newgroup is read by people around the globe, I would
never have posted anything that I thought would have been truly perceived as
malacious to anyone from any country.
And I understand your being flabbergasted. I've seen enough patronizing
commentary on the deplorable state of American culture - even the comment
that there *is* no such thing as an American culture - that I understand
your being upset at furthering of stereotypes, as I've felt it also.
So, I hope that you will accept my apology for any ill will that that part
of my post to Radu may have caused you.
Dwain
Rick Clark
>
>Ha ha, I won't bite to this last line. See? I can still discern humor from
>mean name calling. I clearly remember having a similar exchange with you a
>few months ago, but have your read the whole thread this time?
No I haven't read the whole thread.
> I can accept
>satire, but not to the point where it leads to defamation. I hope you'll
>understand I don't like the term "anti-Semitic" being stuck to the French
>for instance.
This I can understand, and it's hard to see a joke in that. As to
whether there is much truth in it, I plead ignorance. Though
anti-Semitism is a plague throughout much of the world, the U.S. with
it's own fair share, for certain.
>Being generalized as a dirty, sleazy, obnoxious, lazy bastard
>is not my definition of funny either, even with a very open mind.
I would disagree. Seems pretty funny to me. A badge of honor, even, in
this age of silly "political correctness". Maybe you need to "get in
touch with your maleness". We have a comedy show with a theme song
that goes, "Quit your job and light a fart, scratch your favorite
private part, iiiiiiit's The Man Show!" It is a show all about
reclaiming your dirty, sleazy, lazy, obnoxious bastardhood.
> Please
>take the time to read the thread again, and you'll see that it was not
>entirely satirical, and that some posts were indeed quite *factual* (and
>false at that, of course.)
I'll take your word for it. I'm not going to read all that.
>Maybe it's in your tradition to make fun of other cultures,
What I was saying is, we make fun of the apparent rivalry between
French and Americans. This sprung from U.S. tourists reporting all
kinds of rude treatment when visiting France, giving the impression
you look down your noses at us. (You don't need to remind me about the
behavior of American tourists. Believe me, I know)
It also seems to us that the French spend a lot of time proclaiming
the "superiority" of French culture, and taking themselves very
seriously, so of course that makes them a target for jokes. It's joked
about that the French hate Americans, so we joke back about the
French. Don't take that too seriously. I don't know anyone here who
thinks it is a serious matter, or actually has a genuine animosity
towards French people. It's more like a sports rivalry- just a game.
>Satire is fine, until it ends up obfuscating the whole idea of the person or
>people it is supposed to make fun of. I hope I make my point through. I
>don't remember, me or friends, making fun of the American culture in such
>blatantly false (and degrading) manner.
So, you only make fun of U.S. culture in an "accurate" manner?
If you had the same kind of humor as us, you wouldn't be French. You
would be American. Humor is very culture-specific.
>On a related topic, the other day I picked up Time Magazine (not a
>reference, you'll say..) and found a full page article on the supposed
>"charm" of the French lifestyle. All in good intention, it almost looked
>like a rip-off from Radu's post (the long one.) But then again: all
>stereotypes. All over the page. I couldn't recognize one true aspect of my
>own life.
Yes, well I too live in a culture (a typical European vacation
destination) which is frequently portrayed in the mass media in ways
that have nothing to do with my day-to-day life, either.
>Now tell me: Time Magazine, is this a satirical magazine or what?
>Then there is the Paris Hotel in Vegas (I've seen the brochure and some
>commercials): appalling. Then there are the French in the movies.
>Stereotypes. Don't get me started with Chocolate. Auuughhh...Always
>stereotypes. They are all over the place. Again. And again... *that* is
>sickening.
So stop twirling your moustache and tell me, how many nice, fat geese
do you own?
>Back to the question at hand: the thread contained some pretty rude
>statements. Humorous or not. I suspect I was not the only one to find they
>crossed the limit of the good-natured joke. When I read that, I just had to
>explode, that's all.
Yes, well the French are very hot-tempered, you know. Understandable,
considering the way your cars keep breaking down.
Regards,
Rick Clark
M. Slater
>(Ze cow, she is laughing)
>
Correction Rick: Ze cow, she is laughing, her.
Mark
Tom Shaw
"stereotype" as some kind of dirty non-PC word. Any classification of
anything into a group is stereotyping. Furthermore nations act for their
people, presumably, and thus it should be acceptable to discuss such people
as a people, as in the French, without being accused of the dread behavior
as stereotyping. Or perhaps more to the point as some sub-group of a
nation's population.
Here in America it is quite commonly acceptable to bash the religious right,
members of the the NRA, and such, in the media. You can also bash musicians
to your hearts content...especially viola players. Such terms denote
stereotypes which is perfectly acceptable if you dont agree with the
religious right or the NRA or viola players..
Bottom line. Let's quit using the word stereotype the way it has been
bandied about in this thread and return it to a legitimate place in
language.
TS
"Raphael Gest" <raphae...@sap.ap-hop-paris.fr> wrote in message
news:98j5g3$285pl$1...@ID-76570.news.dfncis.de...
> Dwain Lee <dl...@dlarch.com> a écrit dans le message :
> 98j2tl$kqg$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> disclaimers in your post were quite apparent indeed. What happened is
that,
> for some reason, my news server had deleted all but the last message in
the
> thread when I got to read the news this morning, after 3 days off the net.
> This particular message was one of Alice Liesman, who sounded pretty
> indignant. So I went to read the whole thread on google (in reverse), and
I
> found that the French-bashing going on there, humour or not, was a bit too
> much for my taste. I saw red, that's how I missed your disclaimer. I'll
add
> that your post I didn't consider really offensive per se, but it merely
> added up to the mix. That's when I lost my temper. I later recollectionned
> snippets from different posts to illustrate my response. That's how you
> landed there.
> Thanks for taking the time for an apology, when you needn't. I see you
> understand the upsetting effect of stereotypes. There *is* of course an
> American culture, quite brilliant and alive indeed, of which I am pretty
> fond as already stated before. Well, if you could just retrieve the WWF,
> I'll be even happier.
> !!!JUST KIDDING!!!
> Regards,
> Raphael
>
>
Dwain Lee
Raphael Gest <raphae...@sap.ap-hop-paris.fr> wrote in message
news:98j5g3$285pl$1...@ID-76570.news.dfncis.de...
>Well, if you could just retrieve the WWF,
> I'll be even happier.
> !!!JUST KIDDING!!!
> Regards,
> Raphael
>
>
Raphael,
Le WWF est probablement la plus GRANDE Amérique de chose doit s'excuser
auprès du monde pour!
Les meilleurs souhaits, mon ami. :-)
Dwain
Dwain Lee
Tom Shaw <a000...@airmail.net> wrote in message
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> Here in America it is quite commonly acceptable to bash the religious
right,
> members of the the NRA, and such, in the media.
Geez, you Texans are all alike.
;-)
Dwain
Raphaël Gest
"Rick Clark" <Ple...@LobotomizeMe.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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> "Raphael Gest" <raphae...@sap.ap-hop-paris.fr> wrote:
> >
> >Being generalized as a dirty, sleazy, obnoxious, lazy bastard
> >is not my definition of funny either, even with a very open mind.
>
> I would disagree. Seems pretty funny to me. A badge of honor, even, in
> this age of silly "political correctness". Maybe you need to "get in
> touch with your maleness". We have a comedy show with a theme song
> that goes, "Quit your job and light a fart, scratch your favorite
> private part, iiiiiiit's The Man Show!" It is a show all about
> reclaiming your dirty, sleazy, lazy, obnoxious bastardhood.
Attributing oneself this kind of award, which is perfectly OK, is not the
same as proclaiming it the characteristic of a whole nation, IMHO. This
doesn't have the same meaning.
> What I was saying is, we make fun of the apparent rivalry between
> French and Americans.
> ....
> It also seems to us that the French spend a lot of time proclaiming
> the "superiority" of French culture, and taking themselves very
> seriously, so of course that makes them a target for jokes. It's joked
That's a good one. Who? Where? When? It seems that we proclaim an alleged
superiority, do you say? Sorry, I would rather say that most French I know
tend to exhibit an inferiority complex, so you can imagine my surprise.
The culprit: day-old rumours. Hard to die myths. That's precisely what I was
trying to denounce.
If all in all it's only a "game", then what can I say...
> >Satire is fine, until it ends up obfuscating the whole idea of the person
or
> >people it is supposed to make fun of. I hope I make my point through. I
> >don't remember, me or friends, making fun of the American culture in such
> >blatantly false (and degrading) manner.
> So, you only make fun of U.S. culture in an "accurate" manner?
Ok, that was not a very clear idea. Let's put it to rest.
> If you had the same kind of humor as us, you wouldn't be French. You
> would be American. Humor is very culture-specific.
That may well be a wise conclusion for this thread.
> So stop twirling your moustache and tell me, how many nice, fat geese
> do you own?
<QUACK> <QUACK>....Let <QUACK> <QUACK> <QUACK>..me <QUACK> <QUACK>
...count... <QUACK> <QUACK> <QUACK> <KONK> <QUACK>
> Yes, well the French are very hot-tempered, you know. Understandable,
> considering the way your cars keep breaking down.
Boy, you know where it hurts.
> Regards,
> Rick Clark
Regards too,
Raphael
Larry
>"stereotype" as some kind of dirty non-PC word. Any classification of
>anything into a group is stereotyping.
There is a group that comes down South with regularity from Ohio and Michigan
which I guess could be a stereotype. I've seen lots of them. They are driving a
Chrysler, the man is short and fat, and is wearing a pair of bermuda shorts
with Hawaiian patterns on them, and a plaid dress shirt with the tail out. He
has cheesy looking sandals on but is wearing socks, usually black. His legs are
so white it looks like he has died and no one told him. He also has on
sunglasses, usually has on a hat, is bowlegged, and loud and obnoxious.
His wife is wearing some sort of cheap loosely knit rayon looking pull on
blouse, humongous earrings, and a cubic zirconia ring on that would choke a
horse. She has on slacks that she had to be poured into, and there is plenty to
pour. And they are too short. She's wearing flip flops, and has actually
painted the shape of a pair of lips around her mouth, larger than her real
mouth, actually painting right up on her face with the lipstick. She has a big
rosy red dot drawn on each cheek, and has so much Lilac perfume on you can
smell her before she gets out of the car. She has a cigarette in one hand, her
purse hung on the other, and is carrying her arms like a dog that is begging.
Her husband has to yell at her just to get a word in, and she is talking 90
miles a minute, complaining about everything. Her voice is irritatingly nasal.
They stop only to eat at Cracker Barrel, buy one of those little out houses
made of cedar that says "Welcome to Georgia" on it, maybe something else made
out of a dried out corn cob, and loudly drop a comment or two about how dumb
the Southern "hicks" are. Then they get back in their car and go to Florida.
We call them Yankees.
(I thought I might as well offend another group so Raphael won't feel too hard
at me)
Alice Liesman
Raphaël Gest wrote in message <98jip8$1g5$1...@front1.grolier.fr>...
>That's a good one. Who? Where? When? It seems that we proclaim an alleged
>superiority, do you say? Sorry, I would rather say that most French I know
>tend to exhibit an inferiority complex, so you can imagine my surprise.
>The culprit: day-old rumours. Hard to die myths. That's precisely what I
was
>trying to denounce.
I blame it on de Gaulle. He really was pretty snooty and anti-American.
Contrary to the popular opinion, I find that many if not most French people
are rather infatuated with all things American, like American movies,
American novels, American toys, American music, American fast food joints.
I'm told that since I was there last, they've even adopted Halloween, which
they certainly didn't have 10 years ago. This doesn't preclude them being
very patriotic. Sardou (I think) sang umpteen songs about how great and good
and lovable Americans are (e.g. "if it weren't for the Americans, we'd all
be Germans now" - no mention of the British) AND umpteen songs to the glory
of France (including "if the French sometimes complain, it's not of
hangovers" - the irony of "sometimes" is priceless).
--
Alice V. Liesman
Radu Focshaner
> > considering the way your cars keep breaking down.
>
> Boy, you know where it hurts.
> Raphael
Under my pressure, my father bought in 1971 a Peugeot 404. It was stolen
in 1987. Then he bought, under my pressure, a Peugeot 305, built like a
tank. After my father died in 1988, my mother took care of it and
succeeded to crash with it many other cars. When she gave up, I took the
car and bought another new Peugeot 405. I've sold the 305 a couple of
years ago (I needed the money), in perfect condition and wept when we
had to depart from it. At Chrysler, I saw, through the windows of the
"competitors tear-down" departement, french cars. Why ?
r.
Rick Clark
>They stop only to eat at Cracker Barrel, buy one of those little out houses
>made of cedar that says "Welcome to Georgia" on it, maybe something else made
>out of a dried out corn cob, and loudly drop a comment or two about how dumb
>the Southern "hicks" are. Then they get back in their car and go to Florida.
>
>We call them Yankees.
A Georgia Cracker Barrel is a fairly humorous concept unto itself.
And these Yankees, the ones that migrate to Florida to live, often
bring with them this attitude "This isn't the the way they do it up
North" that is so prevalent that many locals react with bumper
stickers that say "We Don't CARE How They Do It Up North".
Of particular comedic interest to me (being an avid tropical gardening
hobbyist) is when they attempt to implement their Northern gardening
practices down here. This area is absolutely the lushest area in the
country (excluding perhaps HI) for growing the most wonderful
assortment of things imaginable (and all year round), yet the
transplanted Yankees will often do nothing but complain that their
little petunias or gladiolas or other Northern short-season-adapted
plants won't thrive, therefore the place is good for growing nothing.
(Meanwhile, locals have orchids dripping out of trees, everything from
heliconias to coconuts, allspice to lychees, etc.) Or they will
install thousands of dollars in sprinkler systems for lawns that need
no supplemental watering whatever, in the area with the second highest
rainfall in the lower 48. What a bunch of maroons.
There was one guy who moved in and decided he would "top" all his palm
trees so they would "grow back bushier". This is decapitation and
killed every one of course. A couple were Canary Island Date Palms
that in his size sell these days for $6,000 each.
Fortunately, in my particular area, these Yankees are so put off by
the ethno-cultural mix in which they are the distinct minority, that
they tend to not stay. Too bad for them, because they seem to be
having enough problems with inbreeding already.
(So who will get riled up by this one?)
Rick Clark
Radu Focshaner
>
> Radu Focshaner wrote in message <3AAB37...@writeme.com>...
> >Actually I stayed for a while in a suburb with mixed ethnic population
> >and it seemed very clean and nice to mee (not luxury, yet no slums). And
>
> Where? West side or north/east?
I think it was Epinay sur Seine.
> But if the "nice" parts are reason enough to like Paris, shouldn't the bad
> parts be reason enough not to like it? 8*)
As I said, to stay sane, I chose what to like, see. I don't have the
ability of the pope or the late Mother Theresa, to suffer for all the
world. The mind does the some thing - hides deep the traumatic
experiences, just to keep functioning.
> >So let's smoke the peace pipe...
>
> Ok.
>
> --
> Alice V. Liesman
O.K. to smoke ?????????
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I really have no life...
I go around reading posts and,without having any original thought,
or adding anything to the subject,simply make short simpleminded
remarQs.
Rick Clark
> At Chrysler, I saw, through the windows of the
>"competitors tear-down" departement, french cars. Why ?
They were desperate to get out the garlic smell.
Rick Clark
Radu Focshaner
>
> The only jarring note in it was to learn
> that the French, of all people, have a WWII memorial whereas we in the US
> still lack one...altho somehow we managed one for Viet Nam.
The memorials are not needed in the U.S.(aside for the families), but in
those countries where the Americans fell in helping them to regain their
freedom. At least this was a custom in East Europe with many memorials
for the Russians (and also, there are here a few memorials for the
british who fought in WWI).
Radu Focshaner
????????????
I didn't said jewish cars (oops, a stereotype !), but french cars.
Could it possibly be that, while the american cars are massive built
(not in Nader's opinion) they lack the european "finesse" ?
Dwain Lee
Larry <larryin...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> There is a group that comes down South with regularity from Ohio and
Michigan...
I, sir, am offended. Everyone knows that all the people who fit your profile
actually come from Indiana.
Dwain
(and what's wrong with Cracker Barrel?)