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cat scratches on a grand---how to remove?

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Bill T.

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Oct 23, 2002, 11:35:50 PM10/23/02
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Our inquisitive cat is now old enough to enjoy jumping onto the piano.
I never thought she would jump that high. Our previous old cat never
attempted it.

Problem is, it's a little too tall for her. So recently I see she's
left some pretty good scratches while trying to clamber up on top.

The cat is parting with her front claws next week at the vet. (Hate to
do it, but love the piano.)

Now, is there an easy way short of refinishing to get the scratches
out? (Young Chang gloss black)

thanks for any advice!

Richard Hofheimer

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Oct 24, 2002, 4:58:25 AM10/24/02
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Ach! Don't de-claw the poor kitty! Find another way.


Uncle Fred

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Oct 24, 2002, 8:11:48 AM10/24/02
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In article <3db76968...@news.mindspring.com>,
madri...@hotmail.com says...

When a cat is declawed, it's not just the claws that are
cut. Claws are like our fingernails. They would grow back. So
what they do is cut the fingers off at the first joint. It's a
horrible mutilation. In some countries vets refuse to do it.
Please find another solution.
Maybe you could put some sort of a cover over that part of
the piano so the cat could jump/climb more effectively and without
doing damage.
As for refinishing, I used to do that sort of thing. You can
get something called "lacquer sticks" and an application tool that
has to be heated over a small alcohol lamp. Then the excess can be
scraped and buffed smooth. If you've never done it before, maybe
you should practise first, till you have confidence, before
attacking the piano you love. Or you could get a professional to
do it.

--
With Regards
Fred W.
Please remove *four* F's to reply by email.

SomeGuyOnTheInternet

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Oct 24, 2002, 10:24:51 AM10/24/02
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>> In article <3db76968...@news.mindspring.com>,

>> madri...@hotmail.com (Bill T.) wrote:
>> The cat is parting with her front claws next week at the vet. (Hate to
>> do it, but love the piano.)

Please, no inanimate object is worth mutilating a poor defenceless animal
over. Maybe you should cut the ends off your own fingers while you're at
it, so you don't scratch the keys?

I agree with the other posters: find another way! Put something over the
piano, close the door so the cat can't get into the room, something! Even
if the cat does scratch it, so what it's only a piano.

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pingo

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Oct 24, 2002, 1:09:35 PM10/24/02
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Yeah once they were revered as gods and boy they never let us forget it.

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Uncle Fred

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Oct 24, 2002, 2:44:51 PM10/24/02
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In article <ap99gb$lpv$1$8300...@news.demon.co.uk>,
ping...@hotmail.com says...

> Yeah once they were revered as gods and boy they never let us forget it.

On one of the other newsgroups, someone has the slogan in
their signature file, "Dogs have owners. Cats have staff!"

Mark Glinsky

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Oct 25, 2002, 2:40:47 AM10/25/02
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> Please, no inanimate object is worth mutilating a poor defenceless animal
> over. Maybe you should cut the ends off your own fingers while you're at
> it, so you don't scratch the keys?
> I agree with the other posters: find another way! Put something over the
> piano, close the door so the cat can't get into the room, something! Even
> if the cat does scratch it, so what it's only a piano.


Jeez, you go crazy about declawing the cats, but nobody seems to mind
cutting out their reproductive organs. Get a clue!


Alan Jones

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Oct 25, 2002, 3:21:58 AM10/25/02
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"Richard Hofheimer" <rick.ho...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> Ach! Don't de-claw the poor kitty! Find another way.

Why not just cut the cat's front claws from time to time? I've found that
ordinary human-type nail clippers are effective. I lay the cat on his back
on my lap, head towards me, and hold each paw gently while I clip.He doesn't
object, and even purrs while I'm doing it. Of course you have to be careful
not to take much off - you can see clearly where the "quick" starts and the
clipping would hurt. I suppose some cats wouldn't be so docile, but this
method has worked with two successive Siamese.

Alan Jones


O'Gatolan

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Oct 25, 2002, 3:50:01 AM10/25/02
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> Put something over the piano, close the door so the cat can't get into the room, something!

Ha! Don't underestimate the cat like that!
Resistance is futile! ;)

Tycho Fruru

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Oct 25, 2002, 8:14:53 AM10/25/02
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"Mark Glinsky" <glin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<PH5u9.657$IQ5.30...@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>...

> Jeez, you go crazy about declawing the cats, but nobody seems to mind
> cutting out their reproductive organs. Get a clue!

Would you like to live without hands (making it impossible to grab
anything firmly - just as a declawed cat) or rather without
reproductive capacities, but otherwise 100% ok ?

Tycho

Cy Shuster

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Oct 25, 2002, 12:07:37 AM10/25/02
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I've heard it said on the Pianotech list that cat's feet can transfer
ammonia from the litter box to the strings, corroding them to the point
where they need replacement. You need to keep her off there!

When my cat jumps on something, he often lands with his front feet on top,
and rear feet below, pushing up with his rears. So you may still not be
solving the problem.

Try leaving a sheet of aluminum foil on it -- they don't like to touch it.
Or just use a cover of some kind. Your piano's not by a window, is it?
That's what attracts my cat -- the view!

--Cy--

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wsar

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Oct 25, 2002, 11:25:25 AM10/25/02
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*MY* cat can open door. The interior doors in my house have these
handle-levers, not knobs, and my cat (my male cat at least) figured out how
to jump up and open a closed and latched door.

I don't keep my cats--who have all their claws--away from the piano. In
fact, they play beautifully, but I'm a little tired of that Zez Confrey
tune.

In all serious, while I didn't have my clats de-clawed, in SEVERE cases
(like the cat tears wallpaper off walls in every room, and tears up every
piece of furniture, I can understand. But give the cat a chance, first. Most
often, the cat will pick one item to claw up and leave the rest of the house
alone. Most people can live with one scratched side of one sofa, etc.

Also, make sure there's something attractive to scratch in every room--like
a scratching post. They'll usually take a scratching post over the furniture
next to it. The price you pay is a few scratching posts around the house.

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O'Gatolan

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Oct 25, 2002, 5:59:59 PM10/25/02
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In article <Fndu9.12393$6K3.56...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
"wsar" <ab...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> *MY* cat can open door. The interior doors in my house have these
> handle-levers, not knobs, and my cat (my male cat at least) figured out how
> to jump up and open a closed and latched door.

That's what I was referring to - usually attemps to "keep the cat out"
end up failing. Cats are smarter than that.

The suggestion of having a scratching pole accessible is a good one, but
perhaps irrelevant. The original poster didn't complain about the cat
using the piano for scratching, but rather about the cat leaving marks
when jumping onto the piano.

Mike Mayer

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Oct 25, 2002, 7:48:52 PM10/25/02
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How to remove:

Open window, grab by tail, throw. Close window.

Mike

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Reinder Mulder

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Oct 26, 2002, 7:07:05 AM10/26/02
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Does your grand have a tail???

Reinder

Baby Grand

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Oct 26, 2002, 10:28:41 AM10/26/02
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Since everybody seems to want to talk about saving your cats claws instead
of answering your question, maybe I can help...

When you say "Young Chang gloss black", I read that to mean a polyester
finish. Polyester is a different animal from conventional lacquer finishes,
and a little more problematic to repair. Although it is quite a bit more
durable and tougher than lacquer, it can be scratched or chipped. The idea
of trying to fix it with wax burn-in sticks is not a good idea. What you
will end up with is dull, low sheen lines where the scratches were, and that
might even look worse than it does now.

Polyester must be repaired by filling the affected areas with new polyester
(sort of like mixing up a clear epoxy and filling the scratches), and then
carefully sanding it down absolutely level with two or three grits of very
fine paper, and then buffing and polishing with two or three grades of
rubbing compound, and then very fine polishing compound, to restore the
overall area to its original surface flatness and sheen, which is very close
to 100 sheen (well, maybe not on Young Chang!)

I would suggest you contact a large piano dealer in your area that sells
polyester grands, and see if they will let you talk to their best
repair/refinishing person. Ask him or her for a quote on fixing your piano.
It might not be too high, and they could do it in one visit. Maybe they
could shoot the cat while they are there.

Baby Grand

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wsar

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Oct 26, 2002, 2:22:11 PM10/26/02
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> When you say "Young Chang gloss black", I read that to mean a polyester
> finish. Polyester is a different animal from conventional lacquer
finishes,
> and a little more problematic to repair.

I didn't realize that the piano in question was a Young Chang.
Perhaps the cat is making an editorial comment on your choice of piano!


Seriously, there's a company that sells a device meant to train cats not to
jump on certain surfaces. It's a motion detector with an alarm,

PetSmart has it, but I've seen it everywhere. It may work for your cat.
http://www.petsmart.com/cat/shopping/repellants/products/product_28488.shtml

Uncle Fred

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Oct 26, 2002, 3:04:01 PM10/26/02
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In article <dqxu9.2092$wZ2...@news.bellsouth.net>,
NOSPAMdes...@bellsouth.net says...

> Since everybody seems to want to talk about saving your cats claws instead
> of answering your question, maybe I can help...
>
> When you say "Young Chang gloss black", I read that to mean a polyester
> finish. Polyester is a different animal from conventional lacquer finishes,
> and a little more problematic to repair. Although it is quite a bit more
> durable and tougher than lacquer, it can be scratched or chipped. The idea
> of trying to fix it with wax burn-in sticks is not a good idea. What you
> will end up with is dull, low sheen lines where the scratches were, and that
> might even look worse than it does now.
>
Just a point here. There are Lacquer Sticks and there are
Wax Sticks. The Wax Sticks do not require heat and I would not
recommend those.

> Polyester must be repaired by filling the affected areas with new polyester
> (sort of like mixing up a clear epoxy and filling the scratches), and then
> carefully sanding it down absolutely level with two or three grits of very
> fine paper, and then buffing and polishing with two or three grades of
> rubbing compound, and then very fine polishing compound, to restore the
> overall area to its original surface flatness and sheen, which is very close
> to 100 sheen (well, maybe not on Young Chang!)
>

The clear epoxy will only work if there is no break in the
colour.

> I would suggest you contact a large piano dealer in your area that sells
> polyester grands, and see if they will let you talk to their best
> repair/refinishing person. Ask him or her for a quote on fixing your piano.
> It might not be too high, and they could do it in one visit. Maybe they
> could shoot the cat while they are there.
>

Certainly getting advice from a professional who can examine
the problem would be the best bet. It helps to know what type of
finish was used on the piano. It's difficult to fix the problem
over the Internet.
Oh, and please don't shoot the cat. The cat would have
meant no harm and he doesn't know how much you love your piano.
Cats are much nicer than some people you meet on the Internet.

EHpianist

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Oct 30, 2002, 2:15:45 AM10/30/02
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So what was the final verdict on kitty's claws?

Meow, Meow (or in Spanish, 'Miau Miau')

Elena
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Chris Lee

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Oct 30, 2002, 3:20:48 PM10/30/02
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Cat lovers don't read further.
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Strangle the cat and use its skin as a polishing cloth ;-)

"EHpianist" <EHpianist...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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SomeGuyOnTheInternet

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Oct 31, 2002, 12:31:09 PM10/31/02
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I had another thought about this:

One way to solve it might be to make it easier for the cat to jump on the
piano, rather than trying to prevent him from doing so, or removing his
claws. If he can easily make his way up there, he won't have to "grasp"
at it to prevent falling. Put a chair or table next to it that provides
him with some "steps".

Thank you.
Brilliant-Solutions-R-Us

EHpianist

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Oct 31, 2002, 3:11:56 AM10/31/02
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Wouldn't work, would leave more hairs on the piano than it would pick up.
I'm not a cat lover but there was nothing humorous nor clever about your
comment.

Elena
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robertandrews

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Nov 1, 2002, 9:57:46 PM11/1/02
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"Bill T." <madri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Now, is there an easy way short of refinishing to get the scratches out?
(Young Chang gloss black)

Cats don't like Young Changs. I suggest you trade it for an older American
piano -- you'll have a nicer cat & a better instrument.

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