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Beatle

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Jun 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/29/96
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Hello all, it is good to be back reading this group after a lengthy
absence. I have a question about Moonlight Sonata, one of my
personal favourites. With piano gradings, what level (or grade)
is Moonlight Sonata usually tackled? I hope that makes sense- a
friend asked me "at what grade do you have to be before a teacher
will give you this piece to learn?" I can play the first part, some
of the second but after that I am hopeless. :) I have never taken
lessons before (will be starting in a few weeks) and so I really don't
have a clue as to what a "Grade 4" should be able to accomplish
for example.

Apologies for the vagueness,
Faye

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Jeffrey A. Durham

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Jun 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/30/96
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It has been a long time since I looked at my lesson books (25 years),
but I seem to recall that at least in the Michael Aaron books, Moonlight
Sonata was at least a grade four, maybe five.

Jeff Durham
jdu...@one.net

Steve and Brooke

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Jul 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/1/96
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On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:11:29 -0400, "Jeffrey A. Durham"
<jdu...@one.net> wrote:


>It has been a long time since I looked at my lesson books (25 years),
>but I seem to recall that at least in the Michael Aaron books, Moonlight
>Sonata was at least a grade four, maybe five.
>
>Jeff Durham
>jdu...@one.net

What specifically do these grades mean??
I assume they refer to a person's playing ability, (difficulty of the
peice)
What distinguishes a grade 1, from a 2, from a 3 etc...
How high does the grading go??
A curious novice....
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Martha Beth Lewis

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Jul 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/2/96
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Lower advanced to mid-advanced. Martha Beth

Tom McEvoy

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Jul 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/2/96
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I don't think it's that hard...the Italian Concerto gave me more
trouble. I'd say entry into advanced.
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Jeffrey A. Durham

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Jul 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/2/96
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The grade I am referring to is what is on the lesson book. The first
book is usually a primer. The second book is grade 1, the third grade
2, etc. Each one increases with difficulty. It has nothing to do with
a person's age.

Jeff Durham
jdu...@one.net

Todd D. Stauffacher

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Jul 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/2/96
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Tom McEvoy wrote:
>
> I don't think it's that hard...the Italian Concerto gave me more
> trouble. I'd say entry into advanced.


Martha Beth is not only accounting for the technicality required in order
to play the notes. One must consider the difficulty of interpretation
and the broad concepts of style and motion.

It is beyond my comprehension that (almost) every twelve year old
mid-level pianist is encouraged to play or allowed to play this piece.
Students should be encouraged to explore the early sonatas (Op. 2, 10,
14, etc.) before delving unpreparedly into a fantasy-sonata of this
scope.

For clarification, I must say that some twelve year old students may be
well prepared to study this piece, considering the irrelivence of age in
the study of piano; I recently attended a recital presented by a thirteen
year old girl who played Mozart Sonata K. 310, Chopin Mazurka Op.17, No.
4, Etude Op. 25, No. 3, and Ballade Op. 23 (g min.) as well as a Liszt
etude (La Campanella) and Copland's Rodeo Suite. I went home in tears...
literally.

Chung Sang Hao

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Jul 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/3/96
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Beatle (s920...@otto.bf.rmit.edu.au) wrote:
: Hello all, it is good to be back reading this group after a lengthy
: absence. I have a question about Moonlight Sonata, one of my
: personal favourites. With piano gradings, what level (or grade)
: is Moonlight Sonata usually tackled? I hope that makes sense- a
: friend asked me "at what grade do you have to be before a teacher
: will give you this piece to learn?" I can play the first part, some
: of the second but after that I am hopeless. :) I have never taken
: lessons before (will be starting in a few weeks) and so I really don't
: have a clue as to what a "Grade 4" should be able to accomplish
: for example.

I am not too sure about the Australian system but Beethoven's Moonlight
Sonata is one of the test pieces for LRSM and LTCL teaching diplomas.

BTW, LRSM stands for Licentiate of Royal Schools of Music and LTCL,
Licentiate of Trinity College of Music London.

Sang-Hao
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C. James Cook

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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In article <4raeia$m...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, mar...@ix.netcom.com(Martha Beth Lewis) writes:
|> Lower advanced to mid-advanced. Martha Beth

Is that just for the first movement, the first and second movement,
or all three movements?

Just curious,
-Jim

Sam Shumka

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Jul 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/11/96
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C. James Cook (jc...@aleph.westboro-ma.peritus.com) wrote:

: Just curious,
: -Jim

The Royal Conservatory of Music rates the entire thing about Grade 10.

chris adlard

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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Presuming that we're talking about the whole sonata, and not just the 1st
movement, the "Moonlight" is set for Associate Diploma in AMEB exams in
Australia.

Chris.

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