Yamaha Gh1 or C1
resh...@my-dejanews.com
quite a bit of price difference between the Gh1 and C1, though they are both
5'3". In fact the price difference is MORE then the difference between C1 and
C2! Even though the C2 is 5'8"! I really like the C1...what is a resonable
price to pay for it? Or is it just over priced, (dealer is asking 13,495) and
I should consider the Kawaii Rx-1, or Boston GP-163? Also if the C1's aren't
selling (like one dealership here in town told me, that's why they don't
stock them), cause folks are buying the Gh1, should I expect a larger
discount on the C1....thanks for any help will be appreciated, I'm getting
close to closure on my 8 month piano search!!:-)....Bruce
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> Yamaha Folks: In looking over 3 different models: Gh1 C1 C2...I have seen
> quite a bit of price difference between the Gh1 and C1, though they are both
> 5'3". In fact the price difference is MORE then the difference between C1 and
> C2! Even though the C2 is 5'8"! I really like the C1...what is a resonable
> price to pay for it? Or is it just over priced, (dealer is asking 13,495) and
> I should consider the Kawaii Rx-1, or Boston GP-163? Also if the C1's aren't
> selling (like one dealership here in town told me, that's why they don't
> stock them), cause folks are buying the Gh1, should I expect a larger
> discount on the C1....thanks for any help will be appreciated, I'm getting
> close to closure on my 8 month piano search!!:-)....Bruce
>
Bruce, The GH-1B costs less for the simple reason that it's not in the same
class as a C1. It's made for a price point as a competitor to the Korean
grands. The C1 is part of the Conservatory series on which Yamaha's
excellent reputation is based.
As for the rest of your questions, I'll leave that to the real experts, like
Dave Zappa.
Regards,
Cork Van Den Handel
WEY6007
Bruce:
FYI, I had an offer $11,300(including 6% sales tax in NJ) for a new C1. We
didn't take it even my wife loved it. Instead, we are looking a new C3.
Jeff
Dave Zappa
> > Yamaha Folks: In looking over 3 different models: Gh1 C1 C2...I have seen
> > quite a bit of price difference between the Gh1 and C1, though they are both
> > 5'3". In fact the price difference is MORE then the difference between C1 and
> > C2! Even though the C2 is 5'8"! I really like the C1...what is a resonable
> > price to pay for it? Or is it just over priced, (dealer is asking 13,495) and
> > I should consider the Kawaii Rx-1, or Boston GP-163? Also if the C1's aren't
> > selling (like one dealership here in town told me, that's why they don't
> > stock them), cause folks are buying the Gh1, should I expect a larger
> > discount on the C1....thanks for any help will be appreciated, I'm getting
> > close to closure on my 8 month piano search!!:-)....Bruce
Bruce:
Cork was right on about why there is such a significant jump in the GH1
to the C1. And some dealers aren't selling C1's because the GH1 is so
much cheaper. We sell quite a few, but many dealers do have trouble
moving them. Some (but not all) of the things you pay for from a GH1 to
a C1:
Full tuned duplex scale
Angled backpost design with tone collector
Perfomance action (mahogany hammer shanks, heavier hammers & some other
refinements)
Higher quality materials are selected for the C series
Heavier plate
Soft close fallboard
Beveled top
Spade legs
5 way adjustable lid prop
If you've spent any time at all with these pianos you know what the
scale and action differences do in performance terms.
As far as pricing goes, consider MSRP on a C1 is $18,695 & you got a
pretty good deal cooking there. I love these Yamaha dealers that are
willing to give away profit.... I would strongly consider the C2 if you
decide the C series is worth the extra dough to you.
Good Luck
Dave
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resh...@my-dejanews.com
my dealer wants around 12K, for the polished ebony. What does he want(or
she), for the new C3? Bruce
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WEY6007
$17,300 including 6% sales tax. One problem is the dealer didn't have C3 in
stock. They asked $5,000 deposite to let they rush one new C3 in. Of course, I
didn't do it. I'm waiting whenever they have a spot for C3 in their show room.
Jeff
resh...@my-dejanews.com
for holding firm on seeing the piano first. Seems like he's trying to
undercut another dealer for sure. Is that the price on satin ebony or
polished? Thanks Bruce:-)
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Bruce:
The price was dealer's offer. I didn't negotiate. I could have put the deposite
if I was just looking at the price. I care the sound more than the price even
I'm not an expert. I moght not get C3 from that daler because the don't have
room for a 6 footer.
Jeff
gl...@fast.net
that they are really totally different pianos. The C1 has a cpmletely
different scale design than the GH1 does. It weighs more, has a duplex
scale, etc. Bottom line is that even though it is the same size as the
GH1 it is a very different and better piano.
The reason the C1 and the C2 are closer in price is that the two are
very similar pianos, except for the size difference.
I suppose which piano is purchased more in a given area would depend on
the salespeoples orientation and the expected resuts musically.
People that are looking for a good quality grand for a reasonable price
for the home often get the GH1 (or GP1 which is the same scale design).
People that are looking for a bigger bass, more dynamics, etc. often get
the C1.
It's not my place to tell you what a given model should sell for.
If I can answer any questions or be of any more help, feel free to
contact me.
We are a Yamaha dealer and would be glad to discuss purchasing a Yamaha
piano from us, if you are in our general trading area.
MiKE
tech person so please xcuse my ignorance!
Dave Zappa
>
> What is the difference between a half/full duplex scale? I am not a piano
> tech person so please xcuse my ignorance!
Ok, I might be wrong here and please correct me if I am. Full duplex
scale means that the portion of the string between the capo & the tuning
pin, as well as the portions between the brigde & agraff and agraff &
hitch pin are tunable to the speaking portion of the string. I've never
heard of half-duplex, but I would imagine it includes the first but not
the second 2 elements.
Dave Zappa
>
> People that are looking for a good quality grand for a reasonable price
> for the home often get the GH1 (or GP1 which is the same scale design).
Actually Glen, I don't think they are EXACTLY the same design. Some of
the differences I've noticed (besides the obviously shorter rim) are a
single thickness soundboard (GH1 is tapered believe it or not) and the
bridge on the GH is capped, while the GP is not. I know Yamaha's story
is the GP is the same as the GH with a downgraded cabinet and rim, but
there are some other differences that lead me to believe the scale is
not identical to the GH. Have you also noticed how much brighter the GP
is than the GH?
Just some observations.
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