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Harry Snyder (Snyder Technology)

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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I have a Yamaha C1 and just had it tuned. After the tuning, I'm getting
loud harmonics on the higher notes. On the D, for example, it's so loud
that it's annoying. Any idea on why this would occur? I don't know the
technical terms, but the tuner came back and dampened the back section of
the D string which made it a little better. He said that the sounds I was
getting were normal, but they are definitely louder than the day before he
tuned it.

One idea is that now that it's back in tune the harmonics are more
noticeable and I just picked up on it (but I don't remember this happening
after the last tuning).

Anyone else experience this? Is there a good resolution? Would getting it
revoiced to make it less bright help?

Thanks,

Harry

Rick Clark

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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Hi, Harry,

I'm a piano tuner. I believe the most likely explanation for this is
the fact that now that the 3 strings of the unison are in tune with
each other, each is reinforcing the other's harmonics. IOW, previously
the harmonic series of each string was a little different due to
tuning discrepancies, thus no reinforcement, and a smeary effect. But
now that they are all the same, you are getting the same harmonic
series x 3. IOW, louder, more focused.

Other possible explanations, less likely, might include that for some
reason you are in the midst of a bout with hearing fatigue (been
listening/playing loudly/a lot lately?) or if the tuner really pounded
the notes hard, he might have pounded them into a brighter voicing. As
I said- less likely.

If the first scenario seems right, I think voicing is in order.
Perhaps it's time anyway to have them reshaped and the grooves taken
out. A bit of very shallow needle-voicing right at the crown might
prove helpful, though some might chime in that this is against
"officially recommended Yamaha voicing procedure". But I will tell you
firsthand it can be done quite effectively, with no ill effects. I
have done dozens like that.

Rick Clark

mason clark

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Jan 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/14/00
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:03:06 -0800, "Harry Snyder (Snyder Technology)"
<har...@snydertech.com> wrote:

>I have a Yamaha C1 and just had it tuned. After the tuning, I'm getting
>loud harmonics on the higher notes. On the D, for example, it's so loud
>that it's annoying.

Sounds like my experience. My solution may amuse you.
I've hung an old T-shirt between the hammers and the strings.
My treble hammers are deeply grooved, presumably hard.
I'm pleased with the T-shirt tone -- don't laugh.

Mason

Pianocat88

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Jan 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/15/00
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> Sounds like my experience. My solution may amuse you.
> I've hung an old T-shirt between the hammers and the strings.
> My treble hammers are deeply grooved, presumably hard.
> I'm pleased with the T-shirt tone -- don't laugh.

> Mason


Mason-

I assume you're using a dress shirt for performances, right?

A Yamaha C1 is a grand piano so this wouldn't work for Harry


Lisa Weller, RPT
Los Alamitos, CA

H Snyder

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Jan 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/18/00
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Thanks for the reply. I have a feeling that your explanation regarding the
3 strings now being in tune is the problem. I forgot to mention that the
piano is less than a year old, so I don't know if there'd be a problem with
grooves, yet.

Harry


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