Kimball Whitney piano
The Piano Tuner
>information about a used Kimball
>Whitney piano, #3710?
The ones I have serviced have been poor -- poor tone, poor touch. You
can do better, because there isn't much worse.
Eric Gloo
Piano Technician
Dave Zappa
<pso...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8k3a7l$pne$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
> is worth the trip to view it. Since I know practically nothing about
> buying a used piano, I'd really appreciate some knowledgeable
> background data.
Also as a former Kimball salesperson I must say that the Whitney spinet was
one of the most finely crafted instruments of it's time. I believe that
engineers at both Steinway and Bosendorfer were quite taken by suprise by
the tactile response and bold, singing tone of the Whitney Kimball. They
were played by many top artists on concert stage in their heyday, but alas
Kimball succummed to the pressures of building a top-flight piano at a
reasonable price and eventually folded up the piano manufacturing brach of
their multi-national company.
Actually, the above is pure bull - calling the Whitney a piece of sh*t is an
insult to sh*t.
Just looking for a little humor (and pardon my language, but it is
appropriate in describing the Whitney) :-)
Dave
pso...@my-deja.com
piano, #3710? I've not yet seen this piano, but wanted to know if it
is worth the trip to view it. Since I know practically nothing about
buying a used piano, I'd really appreciate some knowledgeable
background data.
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Before you buy.
Larry Fletcher
>piano, #3710?
I sold Kimball pianos for 25 years. There better models were ok for home use
for kids to take lessons on, but the 3710 was the cheapest piano they built.
It's a spinet, with a case on it that is just a plain brown box - not even a
keyboard cover as I remember. If it is in top condition it might be ok for
small kids to learn on for a while, but nothing else. Without seeing it I can't
say with certainty what the value of the one you're going to look at is, but
most of the ones I run into these days I can pick up for about 200 bucks.
Larry Fletcher
Pianos, Inc.
Atlanta, GA
Dealer/Technician
Doing the work of three men..........Larry, Curly, and Moe.
Rick Clark
their rooms, this would be the one. Cheap spinets like that are among
the few kinds of pianos that I would recommend someone would be better
off getting a digital piano.
Since you admit knowing little about used pianos, I suggest you
acquire "The Piano Book" by Larry Fine. Currently in print in the big
stores and amazon.com. It can bring you up to speed.
RC
Don
>Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
>piano, #3710? I've not yet seen this piano, but wanted to know if it
>is worth the trip to view it. Since I know practically nothing about
>buying a used piano, I'd really appreciate some knowledgeable
>background data.
>
That instrument is not a piano. It is a PSO...a piano shaped object.
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>On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 01:02:50 GMT, pso...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
>
>That instrument is not a piano. It is a PSO...a piano shaped object.
Oops. I just noticed....... we may have been duped here. Note the
poster's address. This is what I get for not drinking my coffee.
Rick Clark
Radu Focshaner
>
> Don <calldo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 01:02:50 GMT, pso...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> >>Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
> >
> >That instrument is not a piano. It is a PSO...a piano shaped object.
>
> Oops. I just noticed....... we may have been duped here.
Rick, it happens too oten ! Not only the message of mr. PSO-Berg was a
fake one, but also the "European grands" post was a fake - it's only
purpose was to be an ad for the poster's site (interesting though).
> This is what I get for not drinking my coffee.
You DON'T have coffee in the U.S. (and the British Empire for that
matter). The tepid decaf concoction you call coffee is not even by far
related to what is known as coffee in the old world. You should see a
coffee shop in Paris : ethiopian beans, arabica beans, columbian beans,
voodoo approved beans and so on. What one might get in a coffee shop in
the U.S. is vanilla flavored coffee, dutch fudge coffee, whiskey
flavored coffee, well anything that might alter the taste of coffee.
Just now I'm enjoying a lethal strong LAVAZZA espresso. And if I have
to drink instant coffee than it is NESTLE classic made in the Ivory
Coast. For "pure" intoxication I drink Nah'le arab coffee - painful and
lasting sensations in my stomach.
Radu
Did I mention that it also takes a good cigarette to enjoy the coffee ?
Smoke gets in your eyes...Vive la France, the only place in the world
where people know how to live (great food, great wines, (much too)
intelligent women, cigarettes, coffee, Chopin). By the way , there are
not so many heart attacks deaths in France. The liver kills them before
the heart has a chance to fail.
Rick Clark
>You DON'T have coffee in the U.S. (and the British Empire for that
>matter). The tepid decaf concoction you call coffee is not even by far
>related to what is known as coffee in the old world.
I DO have coffee. It's just that "real" coffee has been more of a
specialty or gourmet item. However, it is now becoming more commonly
found in regular grocery stores- probably a result of the
popularzation of better coffees by places like Starbucks. I have 3
different types of coffee makers, too. Drip, press, and espresso. This
morning I had a 100% Colombian, and I grind my own beans. Virtually
all other types are available these days. However, you are correct
that the weak sock-juice variety as well as the artificial candy
flavors have been ubiquitous in the U.S. for quite a long time and
practically the only thing available until recent years. Perhaps in
some areas (I suspect the middle of the country) it is still the only
thing. However, since I live in a Latin culture, it is actually the
thick espressos that are ubiquitous where I live, and are what I was
brought up on.
>You should see a
>coffee shop in Paris : ethiopian beans, arabica beans, columbian beans,
>voodoo approved beans and so on.
Same as Starbucks, Barnies, and bookstores here.
>What one might get in a coffee shop in
>the U.S. is vanilla flavored coffee, dutch fudge coffee, whiskey
>flavored coffee, well anything that might alter the taste of coffee.
Yeah, well they have that crap, too.
Next you'll be telling me we DON'T have beer.
Rick
Christof Pflumm
Ple...@LobotomizeMe.com (Rick Clark) writes:
> Next you'll be telling me we DON'T have beer.
Of course you don't! Or has the U.S. recently started importing beer
from Germany? ;)
Bye,
Christof
Tom Shaw
like a mule. Never found anything to compare it with here in the US...even
in Arabic restaurants.
TS
Radu Focshaner wrote in message <396658...@writeme.com>...
>Rick Clark wrote:
>>
>> Don <calldo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 01:02:50 GMT, pso...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
>> >
>> >That instrument is not a piano. It is a PSO...a piano shaped object.
>>
>> Oops. I just noticed....... we may have been duped here.
>
>Rick, it happens too oten ! Not only the message of mr. PSO-Berg was a
>fake one, but also the "European grands" post was a fake - it's only
>purpose was to be an ad for the poster's site (interesting though).
>
>> This is what I get for not drinking my coffee.
>
>matter). The tepid decaf concoction you call coffee is not even by far
>coffee shop in Paris : ethiopian beans, arabica beans, columbian beans,
>the U.S. is vanilla flavored coffee, dutch fudge coffee, whiskey
>flavored coffee, well anything that might alter the taste of coffee.
>
Tom Shaw
printed on the labels. Somehow I think something is lost in the tran
(atlantic) lation.
TS
Christof Pflumm wrote in message ...
Tobias Knowles
competition was the best! Needed a spoon to "drink" it. Yummy yumm.
Tobias Knowles
Rick Clark
>
>Of course you don't! Or has the U.S. recently started importing beer
>from Germany? ;)
Good beers here are a bit harder to find than good coffees, but if you
know where the sources are, you can get practically anything from
anywhere in the world. German beers are some of the most widely
available, but I can easily get Belgians, Czechs, Scots, Brits, Irish,
or from just about anyplace else you care to name including Africa,
South America, etc. In the U.S. there is currently an explosion of
U.S. "craft breweries" or "micro breweries", dedicated to world-class
flavorful recipes which are the opposite of the generic Buds and
Millers which had defined the "American flavor" (yuck) for so long.
However, all the sales of hundreds of craft brewers combined would not
equal a single brand like Bud or Miller.
The problem I have locally is that even though so many good varieties
are available, there is a monopoly on the local distribution of them,
and they do not store or refrigerate properly (this is a hot climate).
Much of the beer is old and/or ruined by heat before it reaches the
store shelf. Neither the distributor or the merchant cares or
understands that beer is supposed to be fresh and kept cool. I have
therefore resorted to getting mine through mail order, from sources
that treat the product properly.
Rick Clark
Pamela Oberg
You have not been duped by this posting. Those are, in fact, my initials
and I was serious about my inquiries. Having read the replies to my
original request, I will, indeed, pass on this "piano shaped object." Many
thanks to all who opined on this topic. I rather enjoyed the humorous
responses and subsequent OT threads. Amazing the rabbit trails these forums
produce....
Regards,
Pamela S. Oberg!!
"Rick Clark" <Ple...@LobotomizeMe.com> wrote in message
news:3965c1a...@news.mindspring.com...
> Don <calldo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 01:02:50 GMT, pso...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> >>Can anyone give me some basic information about a used Kimball Whitney
> >
> >That instrument is not a piano. It is a PSO...a piano shaped object.
>
> Oops. I just noticed....... we may have been duped here. Note the
> poster's address. This is what I get for not drinking my coffee.
>
> Rick Clark
Rick Clark
>Rick,
>You have not been duped by this posting. Those are, in fact, my initials
>and I was serious about my inquiries. Having read the replies to my
>original request, I will, indeed, pass on this "piano shaped object."
Heh, heh. Glad you are taking the advise. The term PSO is often used
in this forum, and we do get a few pranksters who know the kinds of
questions sure to provoke strong responses- such as Kimball Whitney
questions. And they always seem to come through Deja.
Anyway, used pianos are a lot like used cars. I mean who ever sells a
GOOD used car? The good ones you keep. In the case of pianos, the
seller is usually just as unknowledgeable as the buyer, and will
usually grossly misrepresent the quality and condition to the
positive, without even understanding what the quality and condition
actually are. Check out that Larry Fine book I mentioned.
Rick Clark
Don
<dob...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Rick,
>You have not been duped by this posting. Those are, in fact, my initials
>and I was serious about my inquiries. Having read the replies to my
>original request, I will, indeed, pass on this "piano shaped object." Many
>thanks to all who opined on this topic. I rather enjoyed the humorous
>responses and subsequent OT threads. Amazing the rabbit trails these forums
>produce....
>
>Regards,
>Pamela S. Oberg!!
>
Having sold Kimball "pianos and organs" back in the olden days of the
late 1960s, and having played MANY of the products over the years, I
can attest to the fact that Kimball only made PSOs.
Whether you pass on it or not is your prerogative. I stand by my
statement. <gr>
However, at one time Kimball made good pipe organs.