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J.Delano

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Mar 1, 2004, 7:41:16 AM3/1/04
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In my Country KAWAI is totally unknown brand of digital pianos ( unlike
YAMAHA or ROLAND), and Kawai model CN390 usually sells for at least $350
less than the Yamaha CLP120.
I saw on www, in the rest of world this KAWAI model is more expensive then
Yamaha??? Technical descriptions are also in favour of Kawai CN390. Is
KAWAI side by side Yamaha O.K.?
Thanks
from Croatia

Alan Young

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Mar 1, 2004, 11:53:34 AM3/1/04
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In article <c1vb23$96o$1...@ls219.htnet.hr>, J.Delano
<jde...@hotmail.com> wrote:

FWIW, I've never seen a Kawai electric anything on a stage anywhere--
Everyone seems to use Yamaha, Roland or an occasional Korg.
So I'd be very cautious about investing in one, if you're a serious
musician.

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Alan
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Gary Rimar

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Mar 1, 2004, 7:53:40 PM3/1/04
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I've played then and think of them as junk, but you may have a very
different opinion.


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J.Delano

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Mar 2, 2004, 2:18:29 AM3/2/04
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> FWIW, I've never seen a Kawai electric anything on a stage anywhere--
> Everyone seems to use Yamaha, Roland or an occasional Korg.
> So I'd be very cautious about investing in one, if you're a serious
> musician.


Thanks, but I don't need a stage piano for profi musician.
I need solid substitution for classic piano. It will be
used by student of music, only for exercise at home.
Excellent mechanic of key is everything, all rest are
Acceptably.
J.D.

Alan Jones

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Mar 2, 2004, 3:23:02 AM3/2/04
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"J.Delano" <jde...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You need to try the Kawai: the company is well-known in the UK (and I
suppose in the US), respectable, and makes decent acoustic pianos, so they
must have people working there who do understand piano mechanics, but it's
not safe to rely on anything but your own trial in a store.

When I was about to buy a digital some years ago, I thought then that Yamaha
had found the best combination of touch and tone, and therefore bought a
Clavinova 860. I didn't like the equivalent model from Roland at all, and
thought the Technics had very convincing tone but a poor keyboard. Since
then, our local piano store has started selling Kawais, and the manager let
me try several models (even though he knew I wasn't buying!) I thought the
touch was fine, but found the tone too "warm" for my liking: perhaps with
more time I could have found settings more to my taste. I'm still happy with
the Clavinova, and if I upgraded I'd probably go for the Yamaha CLP 170 -
but I'd also want to look again at the latest Kawai models.


J.Delano

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Mar 2, 2004, 6:37:04 AM3/2/04
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I'm still happy with
> the Clavinova, and if I upgraded I'd probably go for the Yamaha CLP 170 -
> but I'd also want to look again at the latest Kawai models.
>

Good suggestions, I will tray both models, with concentration
on touch and quality.
The ton shade and design I will "suffering"
for 25% price difference in favor of Kawai ?!?!?
Beside some few technical advantage in favor of Kawai.
Thanks Mr. Jones
J.D.


Marc Sabatella

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Mar 2, 2004, 10:18:14 PM3/2/04
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I think Kawai's digitals are in the same class as those of the other
major manufacturers. The differences end up getting very subjective -
for instance, how much you like the feel of one keyboard versus another,
or the tone quality. But they are all more or less similarly close to
being in the same range as what is found in typical acoustic pianos -
these aren't all the same, either. I personally rated the Kawai I
played above any of the Rolands, very similar to the Yamahas in overall
impression (althought actions differed markedly in specifics), and
almost as nice as the Technics I ultimately decided on. But if I
recall, the one objective knock on it was the relatively limited
polyphony of that particular model - only 32 simultaneous voices instead
of the more usual 64. If they have a model with 64 voices, I wouldn't
be put off by the name at all.

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J.Delano

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Mar 3, 2004, 1:23:01 AM3/3/04
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I personally rated the Kawai I
> played above any of the Rolands, very similar to the Yamahas in overall
> impression (althought actions differed markedly in specifics), and
> almost as nice as the Technics I ultimately decided on. But if I
> recall, the one objective knock on it was the relatively limited
> polyphony of that particular model - only 32 simultaneous voices instead
> of the more usual 64. If they have a model with 64 voices, I wouldn't
> be put off by the name at all.


Please compare:

"KAWAI CN390" - SPECIFICATIONS
Keys: 88 Weighted
Action: Advanced Hammer Action III
Graded Hammer
Sounds: Classic Grand (2), Modern Piano (2), Electric Piano (2), Drawbar
(2), Church Organ (2), Harpsichord (2), Vibraphone (2), Strings (2), Choir
(2) and Bass (2)
Polyphony: 64
Recorder: Two Tracks, Three Songs/10,000 Notes
Reverb: 5 Types
Effects: 7 Types
Other Features: Dual/Split, Dual/Split Balance, Transpose, 6 Touch Curves,
Concert Magic, Metronome, Tuning, Temperaments
Jacks: Headphone x 2, Stereo Line In/Out, MIDI In/Out/Thru, PC Interface
Pedals: Damper, Soft, Sostenuto
Speakers: 16cm x 2
Power: 40 Watts x 2
Dimensions: 55" x 18" x 39"
Weight: 95 lbs.
Finish: Rosewood, Mahogany

YAMAHA CLP-120
New stereo piano sample
New cabinet design
Sliding key cover
Dark Rosewood finish
14 sounds
Dual voice
Song memory (2 tracks)
64 notes polyphony
Graded Hammer keyboard
Metronome
MIDI
Speakers: 2 x 20 W

Prices: KAWAI $1.005 US
YAMAHA $1.345 US


Marc Sabatella

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Mar 3, 2004, 5:14:29 PM3/3/04
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> "KAWAI CN390" - SPECIFICATIONS
> ...

Well, of course, I can't hear or touch this, so I can't say if it is up
to the level of the one I played in any respect other than having the
requisite amount of polyphony. In general, I'm suspicious of keyboards
with lots of bells and whistles, as this generally means they've
compromised on the basics. That is, a $1000 keyboard with no speakers,
no sequencer, etc, is almost certainly better than a $1000 instrument
from the same manufacturer that has these features. But given the one I
liked was significantly less than $1000, it seems entirely possible that
this one is essentially the same quality inards packed into a fancier
cabinet, and if you don't mind paying for that - for many folks,
built-in speakers are more practical than the alternative - this would
probably be a decent choice.

J.Delano

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Mar 8, 2004, 8:32:20 AM3/8/04
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I bought Kawai CN390.
Thanks all.

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