Dampp-Chaser in Yamaha GranTouch GT7
macint...@my-deja.com
I was wondering if I should install a Dampp-Chaser in a
Yamaha GranTouch digital piano. I have a new Yamaha GT7 that
produces sound digitally--and sounds better than a Steinway D
I might add.
Since it has so many wood parts and a Renner action, would
it benefit fro the installaion of a Dampp-Chaser? I was thinking
that it may keep the action more regular, and prevent the
software from crashing.
What do you think?
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mac
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Darryl Greene
fools joke?
- Darryl
ttl
Grantouch. IMO, even a C1 or C2 sounded a LOT better than that.
Tim
Larry Fletcher
with another of his phony little stories just to see if he can get a rise out
of someone. He *looks* intelligent, but he seems to be rather juvenile in his
sense of humor. Remember the German Steinway that he said he had gutted to put
a digital in? Same guy.
GT with a Renner action...........nice try.
>macint...@my-deja.com
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>Folks:
>I was wondering if I should install a Dampp-Chaser in a
>Yamaha GranTouch digital piano. I have a new Yamaha GT7 that
>produces sound digitally--and sounds better than a Steinway D
>I might add.
>Since it has so many wood parts and a Renner action, would
>it benefit fro the installaion of a Dampp-Chaser? I was thinking
>that it may keep the action more regular, and prevent the
>software from crashing.
>What do you think?
>--
>mac
Larry Fletcher
Pianos, Inc.
Atlanta, GA
Dealer/Technician
Doing the work of three men..........Larry, Curly, and Moe.
diarmuid
tried one out the other day and was less impressed than I
expected (some of the bass notes sounded very unrealistic
and the disklavier sounds, 700 of them, were pretty
rubbish). On the plus side the action was the best I've
felt on a digital.
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ttl
why people would throw 13+K on that thing. College students with super tight apartment + need to practice late but can't do without real piano like
action????? beats me.
I agree with you on the bass part. It's synthesized music out of a speaker. Can't compare that with real piano sound (yet?????ever????). My friend who
bought it kept repeating with a big smile on her face...."Isn't it great. it sounds just like a real piano"......I nodded with a fake smile on my face. Just
didn't have the heart......
the sad part is that she is a piano performance major who plays Steinway D all the time......beats me again.
Tim
bobnjoan
<diarmuid.du...@virgin.net.invalid> wrote:
>Could anyone give me some more opinions on the GranTouch. I
>tried one out the other day and was less impressed than I
>expected (some of the bass notes sounded very unrealistic
>and the disklavier sounds, 700 of them, were pretty
>rubbish). On the plus side the action was the best I've
>felt on a digital.
>
I say you can't beat the action too. And it's got MIDI connections.
The way i see it I can practice far into the night or early in the
morning when you Steinway affectionados have to sit on your hands
admiring your decorator piece. Actually the sound isn't that bad if
you connect some decent speakers to add a little oomph to the bass.
And since it's got MIDI sooner or later digital sound will improve and
sound more like a Steinway. Then I'll be able to use my little GT (10)
as a keyboard with the greatest action around.
To each his own
Bob
Darryl Greene
place - and yes, I can practice into the night when the B would be a
little too loud for the rest of the family. However, please don't
imply that those who have a Steinway bought them as decorator pieces -
it's a little insulting, isn't it? (Maybe you didn't mean it that
way, but I get a little touchy!)
- Darryl
diarmuid
ttl I was considering the GranTouch because it will be in
Spain. With the weather getting so hot in the summer I just
couldn't put an acoustic piano through it. On the bass
notes, I really couldn't figure out why they were so bad!
Apparently all the notes are individually sampled, and at
different strengths. There's simply no way that's true.
What I heard was another sampled note that had been lowered
a pitch (on computer) and then used. At least that's my
take on it. A memory trade off technique and ultimately a
cost cutting one. I was beginning to think "rip off",
certainly for $13,000. I had the luxury of trying several
Yamaha grand pianos alongside it. All those claims in
articles that they are "indistinguishable" are utterly
false. They are noticeably different.
All that said the GranTouch did impress me. It's the best
digital I've ever tried, in fact the upright model was
better than the GT7 (comparing it to other uprights and the
GT7 to other grands). It was really very good. In fact if I
was going to go for an upright I'd go for the GranTouch
every time. Acoustic uprights seem to me to deteriorate too
quickly. After a few years they can get pretty knackered,
even good ones. The GranTouch would never loose its tone!
In conclusion I think I'd have to agree with Daryl Greene.
Acoustic and digital both have their place and eventually
bobnjoan is right too, the technology will become such that
the human ear will not be able to distinguish the
difference. Just not yet though!
Brian
get a range of views about the sound, and on this you must form your own. I
don't mind it, but tone is a personal choice. Headphone choice does alter
the sound quite a lot. Budget for good (expensive) phones. I personally
would not get the disclavier model. I think the mid capability suffices.
This is the instrument you buy when you want a *genuine* quality action and
a good sound and a headphone capability and you don't faint at the price
tag.
I have no regrets. Do you agree LstPuritan?
Brian
Downunder
bobnjoan wrote in message <38e9077...@allnews.nbnet.nb.ca>...
>On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:06:58 -0700, diarmuid
><diarmuid.du...@virgin.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Could anyone give me some more opinions on the GranTouch. I
>>tried one out the other day and was less impressed than I
>>expected (some of the bass notes sounded very unrealistic
>>and the disklavier sounds, 700 of them, were pretty
>>rubbish). On the plus side the action was the best I've
>>felt on a digital.
>>
>I say you can't beat the action too. And it's got MIDI connections.
>The way i see it I can practice far into the night or early in the
>morning when you Steinway affectionados have to sit on your hands
>admiring your decorator piece. Actually the sound isn't that bad if
>you connect some decent speakers to add a little oomph to the bass.
>And since it's got MIDI sooner or later digital sound will improve and
>sound more like a Steinway. Then I'll be able to use my little GT (10)
>as a keyboard with the greatest action around.
>
>To each his own
>Bob
LstPuritan
get a range of views about the sound, and on this you must form your own. I
don't mind it, but tone is a personal choice. Headphone choice does alter
the sound quite a lot. Budget for good (expensive) phones. I personally
would not get the disclavier model. I think the mid capability suffices.
This is the instrument you buy when you want a *genuine* quality action and
a good sound and a headphone capability and you don't faint at the price
tag.
I have no regrets. Do you agree LstPuritan?
Brian
Downunder >>
As someone who often doesn't even begin practicing until 10 or 11 at night, I
certainly have no regrets about choosing the Grantouch. It is not the
instrument on which I perform, so my intention was to have access at home to
the digital piano closest in action to the Steinway I use for performances, and
the sound variety/quality was second in importance.
The headphones do make a great deal of difference. I own two pairs. The AKG
K141 Monitor headphones sounded fine on the Clavinova, but sound awful on the
Grantouch: the bass sounds muddy, the high notes raspy, and the notes don't
decay evenly at all. Then I got the Sony Digital Reference MDR-CD360
headphones and it was an enormous improvemnt; I prefer the sound of the
Grantouch with these headphones to the sound of the same piano without any
phones at all. Both headphones cost about $150, so it reveals that different
brands can produce a wide range of sounds. The lesson, though, is not to skimp
on the headphones; after dishing out money for a digital piano, go the extra
$100-200 to get headphones that will make playing a truly enjoyable experience,
rather than swiping the headphones off your walkman and just being content not
to wake people up or disturb anyone with scales.
--Justin
bobnjoan
wrote:
>I've got a Steinway *and* a good electronic - they both have their
>place - and yes, I can practice into the night when the B would be a
>little too loud for the rest of the family. However, please don't
>imply that those who have a Steinway bought them as decorator pieces -
>it's a little insulting, isn't it? (Maybe you didn't mean it that
>way, but I get a little touchy!)
>
>- Darryl
>
Sorry Darryl - I'd love to have one and didn't mean to imply a
permanent decoration piece but rather that at certain times when you
don't want to disturb other members of the family all you can do is
amire your acoustical instrument-don't touch those keys.
Bob
Darryl Greene
Sorry I took you the wrong way - I was having a bad day and was
feeling a *bit* touchy! You're right - when it's late all I can do is
look at the B, then move over to the Alesis, wishing I was on the
Steinway - but it sure is better than nothing! The main thingis
having something reliable to tote along when I know that most pianos
people want me to play are basket cases. I want to find a store that
has the Yamaha P80s in stock - I've heard they're pretty nice for a
lightweight keyboard.