MIDI format files and Yamaha Clavinova format
gio
I have a Yamaha Clavinova CVP-55 Midi Piano.
Is there any MS windows software to convert general midi files I
found everywhere to format playable directly from the Clavinova
diskettes.
I can write MIDI files with my clavinova but they seems to me with a
proprietary format, only the clavinova is able to read it.
Please send to me answers/hints also via email to
lagiov...@yahoo.it
Regards
Anthony Giorgianni
Clavinova by putting them in a computer, but you CANNOT read a midi file
created on a computer on the Clav. If you create a disk in the Clav, put it
into your computer and save a midi file from the computer onto that disk,
the Clav drive won't be able to read ANYTHING on that disk again.
It must have something to do with the way the Clavinova reads and writes the
file allocation tables on the disk. It seems like the way the Clav writes
them is ok for the computer (though the files show up with numbers, not song
names). but the way the computer writes them is not ok for the Clav. If you
find anything that fixes this, let me know ... but this is how my CVP-79a
works. You might also ask in the Clavinova users group at yahoo.
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
"gio" <lagiova...@yahoo.it> wrote in message
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(John)
> As far as I know, you CAN read the midi files on disks created on the
> Clavinova by putting them in a computer, but you CANNOT read a midi file
> created on a computer on the Clav. If you create a disk in the Clav, put it
> into your computer and save a midi file from the computer onto that disk,
> the Clav drive won't be able to read ANYTHING on that disk again.
Using a CLP-170 I can copy midis to the disk from the net and play
them in the Clav. On the few occassions I've tried I could also
copy midis from the Clav to floppy and play them in my computer.i
I haven't come across any incompatibility between different midi
versions. I would think the manual would say what kind of files it
creates and can read.
> If you find anything that fixes this, let me know ... but this is
> how my CVP-79a works.
It must depend on the model, or perhaps it matters whether or not
you use the Clav to format the disk. Since it reads standard dos
disks I don't bother as I'm using pre-formatted disks.
--
John
Anthony Giorgianni
I guess mine is an older version of the Clav. I know I have taken a disk
recorded by the Clav, put it in my laptop and played it,. But if I save any
midi to the disk with the computer, the Clav then says the disk needs to be
reformatted. It may very well be a model difference.
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
"(John)" <nos...@approximately.freeserve.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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Anthony Giorgianni
(and played) a floppy that contained a midi file edited from my computer
using Cakewalk (originally recorded on the Clav). Then I shut the piano off,
turned it back on and re-inserted the same disk, and it wanted to format it.
Then I turned it the piano off, back on and re-inserted again, and it read
and played it.
So I have no idea what is going on. But I guess the Clavs CAN read the
disks.
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
"Anthony Giorgianni" <ag1r...@att.net> wrote in message
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Daniel L. McKown
For what it's worth, I had this problem with my CVP-96. Turned out the
floppy drive was bad. I bought a new generic PC floppy for about
$15.00, replaced the old one, and haven't had a problem since.
Dan
Anthony Giorgianni
It's been like that every since I got my piano new years ago. It never
happens with disks created by piano and used exclusively by the piano, only
the ones that have gone into a computer and had stuff written to them. IS
that the same experience you had?
I do not have a manual for the CVP-79a (it is expensive). Is it easy to get
the drive out?
Thanks again.
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
"Daniel L. McKown" <mck...@nospamumich.edu> wrote in message
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> Anthony,
>
> For what it's worth, I had this problem with my CVP-96. Turned out the
> floppy drive was bad. I bought a new generic PC floppy for about
> $15.00, replaced the old one, and haven't had a problem since.
>
> Dan
>
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Daniel L. McKown
I saw similar behavior with the floppies at first. Only the ones that
had been in my computer were having trouble. After a few months,
though, even the ones that had been used exclusively in the Clav were
giving me problems. However, I believe I damaged the floppy drive
first. The metal cover part of a floppy (the part that slides open to
reveal the actual floppy underneath) came off in the drive once. I used
a paper clip to fish it out, and I started having all my trouble after
that.
By the way, how new is your Clav? If it's still under warrantee, I'd
complain to the dealer. They should fix it for you.
As far as replacing the floppy, I was surprised at how easy it was.
There were two or three screws (I forget exactly, and I don't have the
thing here at work :') to take the lid off, and then the floppy drive
was right there on top. It's held in by a few more screws, and plugs
into a normal floppy cable. I'm going to tack on some original
instructions I found about this. The author mentions taking off the
keyboard cover, but I don't remember having to do that.
Hope this helps.
Dan
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Date: Jan 20 1999 17:54:39 EST
From: "Lafferty, Wallace E" <wallace.e...@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: Floppy Drive ate my Disk
Ali,
When you lift the top off of the CVP you'll see that the disk drive is
mounted on its own stand and can easily be removed. You won't even
need a
manual to do it. But first, with a flashlight, look inside the drive
to see
if you can see the cover down in there somewhere. I had this same
thing
happen on another disk drive, and I was able to extract the cover with
a
pair of long-nosed pliers.
To remove the top, remove the three black caps that cover the screws on
the
back of the CVP's cabinet. Remove the screws and the cover will slide
forward and lift off. You'll have to remove the keyboard cover, which
requires removing two screws that hold a white plastic piece on the
left
side of the cover's gear-toothed slide against the rim of the cabinet
(as
you sit on the piano bench, the piece is on the left at the top of the
rim).
Remove the white plastic piece. The cover will slide forward or back
until
the cover's gear shaft lines up with the notch that the white plastic
piece
was covering. Then the cover will lift strait up through the notch.
This
exposes all of the insides and the disk drive.
Good luck!
Wally
> ----------
> From: Ali & Helen
McCormick[SMTP:ali.mc...@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 3:38 PM
> To: cvpuse...@listbot.com
> Subject: Floppy Drive ate my Disk
>
> CVP User Group
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Greetings from the British side of the Pond.
>
> More of a physical problem this and I'm hoping that Wally may be able
to
> help out on this, given that he's been forced to dismantle his CVP96!
>
> I inserted a 3.5" disk into the CVP96's floppy drive and proceeded to
> spend
> a pleasant evening recording. When finished, I ejected the disk but
the
> sliding silver cover on the top edge of the disk was not there! It
must
> still be in the disk drive, I mused, so I peeped through the slot but
> couldn't see anything obvious. Being the sort who tempts fate, I then
> tried
> to insert another disk which proceeded to work fine! The silver cover
was
> definitely on the initial disk when I inserted it, so I can only
surmise
> that the cover has detached within the drive and slipped down or
across in
> the mechanism, out of 'harm's' way.
>
> As lifting up the CVP96 and turning it over to give it a good shake
is not
> really practical, is there an 'easy' way to remove the drive itself
> (without
> having to dismantle the keys). It certainly looks from the front that
it
> is
> not truly an integrated unit, but an enclosed 3.5" drive in its own
> bracket.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ali McCormick
>
>
>
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Anthony Giorgianni
I'm not even sure HOW to remove the lid from the CVP-79a. I guess maybe it's
all those screws under the piano, though it seems that they would have to be
very long to reach the lid.
My Clav has got to be about eight years old. I forget exactly because it has
been such a long time. It had trouble reading computer files since the
beginning - so I assumed it couldn't, and I haven't had much of a need for
that since I usually connect my laptop to it anyway.
It is strange that it worked every time I tried it yesterday, though the
drive read a piece recorded on the computer as a protected song and would
not copy it to another file. I also see that the Clav puts some management
files on the floppy when it records pieces. I don't know what the purpose
is. But of course a computer that records to the disk won't update those
management files.
Anyway, I may take those screws out and give things a look.
Thanks again
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni
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