Hammond rock solos
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <6mrktq$r...@world6.bellatlantic.net>...
> what are the best (or most influential) Hammond organ solos in rock?
1. Booker T: Green Onions, and several others.
2. Matthew Fisher (Procol Harum): Whiter Shade of Pale (is it Bach? the
debate still rages.)
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
Sonic VI
How about "Time of the Season" by the Zombies?
Daniel.
Dan Turner
If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
Dan Turner
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
Dan Turner wrote in message <35924D...@bellsouth.net>...
>If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
>Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
>Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
If we're going to open the field to blues entrants we probably have to list
everything Jimmy Smith, Jack McDuff, etc., did.
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
Dan Turner
The album was eclectic in it's makeup of R&R (the San Fran sound),
ballad and blues. But, the B-3 in the "Stormy Monday" solo(s) will show
a lot more than bahlues heah.<G>
Speaking of James Smith, I almost drove off the road when I turned to a
station and heard the opening riffs to "the Cat" and couldn't place it
until Jimmy opened up. Do you remember the Jimmy Smith & Wes Montgomery
duo albums?
<<<<suddenly getting a profound revelation about my pending
chronological disorder>>>>
geeez, that goes back a year or two...or three.
Dan Turner
Richard Cotenas
: > Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <6mrktq$r...@world6.bellatlantic.net>...
: > > what are the best (or most influential) Hammond organ solos in rock?
I've always liked Al Kooper's playing on the Supersession LP--Season
of the witch, and the two slow blues that are on the Bloomfield side.
Also, Stevie Winwood's "On the green light" on a Spencer Davis LP is
good.
--
Richard
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
Dan Turner wrote in message <3592D8...@bellsouth.net>...
>Speaking of James Smith, I almost drove off the road when I turned to a
>station and heard the opening riffs to "the Cat" and couldn't place it
>until Jimmy opened up.
That can happen if you're not careful. I don't drive.
> Do you remember the Jimmy Smith & Wes Montgomery
>duo albums?
Yeah, but I was precocious... yeah, that's the ticket... precocious....
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
Dan Turner
I always try to be careful whilst driving, asphalt or sidewalk, I'm
ALWAYS careful. I was precocious once upon a time...now I'm
Lutheran.<G>
On a lighter note, I found my Jimmy Smith and Wes Montgomery albums just
because I got an attack of "dottering in the afternoon" and place an
album on the turntable (I still have one in the stack of equipment) only
to find that my Stanton gyropoise has bought da farm. I spose I'll have
to pull out my shoe box of 8-tracks and give that a try today.
Dan Turner
Lindsay Rosebrock
Ever heard Stevie sing "Georgia", whoa what a voice. Lots of soul there.
Lindsay
Dean L. Surkin
Good choice, Booker T.
Whiter Shade of Pale uses a Bach chord and bass line, melody is by the
songwriter.
--Dean
Andrew P. Mullhaupt wrote in message
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>
>Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <6mrktq$r...@world6.bellatlantic.net>...
>> what are the best (or most influential) Hammond organ solos in rock?
>
>
>1. Booker T: Green Onions, and several others.
>
>2. Matthew Fisher (Procol Harum): Whiter Shade of Pale (is it Bach? the
>debate still rages.)
>
>Later,
>Andrew Mullhaupt
>
>
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Dean L. Surkin
Daniel--
Nice choice.
--Dean
Sonic VI wrote in message
<199806251152...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>How about "Time of the Season" by the Zombies?
>
>Daniel.
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Dean L. Surkin
Yes, I forgot about that album. That, and Billy Joel's post-Hassles band,
Attila, are the only two examples of the Hammond-drums duo that I know of in
Rock.
--Dean
Dan Turner wrote in message <35924D...@bellsouth.net>...
[snip]
>If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
>Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
>Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
>
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Dean L. Surkin
I've got the Smith-Montgomery duo albums on CD. Great listening. Good
replacement for my worn out vinyl copies.
--Dean
Dan Turner wrote in message <3592D8...@bellsouth.net>...
[snip]
>Speaking of James Smith, I almost drove off the road when I turned to a
>station and heard the opening riffs to "the Cat" and couldn't place it
>duo albums?
><<<<suddenly getting a profound revelation about my pending
>chronological disorder>>>>
>
>geeez, that goes back a year or two...or three.
>
>Dan Turner
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Dean L. Surkin
I'm not familiar with SW's "On the green light." Regarding Kooper, I used to
copy him in High School, and my HS rock band played a lot of songs that we
loosely copied from the two Supersession albums, and the Blues Project
albums. Would I start a war if I said Kooper played more notes than his
technique could make musical? By this, I mean that when he played fast, his
phrasing and sense of time abandoned him (particularly noticeable when he
performed live). When he played slowly, he was often quite musical (note
"Like a Rolling Stone" and the Rolling Stones' "You can't always get what
you want").
--Dean
Richard Cotenas wrote in message <6muldt$e...@news.csus.edu>...
>: > Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <6mrktq$r...@world6.bellatlantic.net>...
>: > > what are the best (or most influential) Hammond organ solos in rock?
> I've always liked Al Kooper's playing on the Supersession LP--Season
>of the witch, and the two slow blues that are on the Bloomfield side.
>Also, Stevie Winwood's "On the green light" on a Spencer Davis LP is
>good.
>--
>Richard
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Dan Turner
Dean L. Surkin wrote:
>
> I've got the Smith-Montgomery duo albums on CD. Great listening. Good
> replacement for my worn out vinyl copies.
> --Dean
jazz albums. I remember going through a CD store that seemed to have a
price that was too much out of line at the time, but rather than not
have them...I spose I should put out the cash.
Smith and Montgomery were easy listening jazz albums of that time that
got over run by the latter 60's into 70's rock invasion. But, you don't
hear too many octave guitar playing or the Orleans/New York blues B-3
organs since that time, may never find it in style again.
Yet, I never thought I'd see the Lindy Hop in vogue again either.<G>
Dan Turner
Dan Turner
In Atlanta, during the early 70's-latter 60's, the Piedmont Park scene
on the weekends were to showcase new groups. I do recall, a SPECTACULAR
3 piece with two spindle mounted B-3's and a drummer called the Booger
Band. These two organists always stopped any crowd walking when they
cranked up the Leslies. I never heard them in any other forum, which
was a shame because they truly had a different sound with two might
Hammonds through a large PA.
Dan Turner
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
>Andrew P. Mullhaupt wrote in message
><6msh4i$k...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>...
>>
>>1. Booker T: Green Onions, and several others.
>>
>>2. Matthew Fisher (Procol Harum): Whiter Shade of Pale (is it Bach? the
>>debate still rages.)
Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <3594e...@news2.ibm.net>...
>Good choice, Booker T.
>
>Whiter Shade of Pale uses a Bach chord and bass line, melody is by the
>songwriter.
Not according to Bernard S. Greenberg, who has done a comprehensive analysis
and reviewed the longstanding argument.
See:
http://www.basistech.com/bach/awsopafg.htm
for details.
Of course this won't settle anything, but it might shorten the thread.
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
Dan Turner wrote in message <359528...@bellsouth.net>...
>
>I remember going through a CD store that seemed to have a
>price that was too much out of line at the time, but rather than not
>have them...I spose I should put out the cash.
You might be better off archiving to MiniDisc. They're more convenient, cost
about $5.00 a piece and the ATRAC encoding is getting pretty good. You also
don't have to worry about the problem of CD's getting dodgy remixes or
distressed original masters, which has happened.
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
moza...@my-dejanews.com
>
> If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
> Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
> Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
>
> Dan Turner
>
Wow! Somebody else remembers Lee Michaels and Stormy Monday. That's the first
thing that came to mind when I saw the start of this thread. Right on, bro'
(just getting into the appropriate vernacular here...).
MarkO
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moza...@mediacity.com
While perhaps not influential, the solo in Stephen Stills' "Love the One
You're With" is quite nice, especially that trademark B3 glissando it begins
with.
joan may
My favorite Hammond piece is Matthew Fisher's organ melody of A Whiter
Shade of Pale -- it's his original melody influenced by a couple of
Bach pieces, primarily Sleepers Awake, though it sounds nothing like
that fast little ditty. Not only is the melody so enchanting, but so is
the TONE of his Hammond - the best tone out of that instrument that I've
ever heard in my life. It was recorded on an M102, not a B3, by the
way.
For more info on that song see
http://www.procolharum.com/awsop.htm
Click on the photo of the Cake at the bottom of that page for some
interesting musical notation...
See also -- the page devoted to Matthew Fisher, from which his own
personal home page can be accessed:
http://www.procolharum.com/procolmf.htm
Best, Joan :-)
Dan Turner
moza...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >
> > If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
> > Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
> > Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
> >
> > Dan Turner
> >
>
> Wow! Somebody else remembers Lee Michaels and Stormy Monday. That's the first
> thing that came to mind when I saw the start of this thread. Right on, bro'
> (just getting into the appropriate vernacular here...).
>
> MarkO
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
Isn't that one of the most spectacular versions of Stormy Monday ever
performed? I later read an article about Lee Michaels that stated he'd
only been "goofing" around with keyboards for a short while before that
recording. It was hard to believe, although it could very well be true
as most of the long runs were combos of five finger progressions that
stopped in a chord and then move on...nothing more than an octave at a
time.
There's only a couple recordings that I'll risk blowing out speaker
cones or burning up drivers for, and cranking up Lee Michaels playing &
singing Stormy Monday is one of 'em.
Heighty hay!!<G>
Dan Turner
Dean L. Surkin
Montgomery's octave style was one of the most distinctive sounds in jazz
guitar. Wasn't one of their duets "Down by the Riverside," arranged by
Oliver Nelson? In that arrangement, Smith does one part of one of his solos,
where he modulates up by minor thirds (chord substitutions around the
diminished chord, some call it) while the accompanying musicians stay in the
same key. I remember figuring that trick out, and then using it to death for
the next dozen years.
Thanks for your comments.
--Dean L. Surkin
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Dan Turner wrote in message <359528...@bellsouth.net>...
[snip]>
>Smith and Montgomery were easy listening jazz albums of that time that
>got over run by the latter 60's into 70's rock invasion. But, you don't
>hear too many octave guitar playing or the Orleans/New York blues B-3
>organs since that time, may never find it in style again.
>
[snip]
Dean L. Surkin
Nice choice, the Stills solo. The Hammond and Leslie could make a palm or
forearm gliss sound great. I first remember hearing this sound by Felix
Cavaliere in the Young Rascals' version of "Midnight Hour." The last 8 bars
or so has a "gliss from hell" that I remember I couldn't do on my first
organ, a Farfisa Combo Compact, but that sounded great when I later acquired
a Hammond M-3 (using a Leslie 147--what can I say? I couldn't afford a B-3
and Leslie 122).
Other great Hammond glisses: Wilson Pickett's version of "Mustang Sally,"
Procol Harem's "Whiter Shade of Pale" Kooper (first Supersession album)
"Season of the Witch." And, if I may be immodest, the endings of every solo
I played during the first year I owned my Hammond, until the band members
finally told me to do something different (g).
--Dean L. Surkin
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moza...@mediacity.com wrote in message <6n3tak$5ur$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>While perhaps not influential, the solo in Stephen Stills' "Love the One
>You're With" is quite nice, especially that trademark B3 glissando it
begins
>with.
>
Dan Turner
And then....there's the pronouncement by little Stevie Winwood in that
great split keyboard piece..."Empty Pages" with that great piano solo in
the midst. I've got an elder X-77 with the X-77 Leslie that performs as
it was built...a great looking bar organ<G>...it'll wail, but it lacks
amplitude and that great quick-drop Leslie response.
Dan Turner
Dan Turner
Dean L. Surkin wrote:
>
> Montgomery's octave style was one of the most distinctive sounds in jazz
> guitar. Wasn't one of their duets "Down by the Riverside," arranged by
> Oliver Nelson? In that arrangement, Smith does one part of one of his solos,
> where he modulates up by minor thirds (chord substitutions around the
> diminished chord, some call it) while the accompanying musicians stay in the
> same key. I remember figuring that trick out, and then using it to death for
> the next dozen years.
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> For e-mail, remove anti-Spam "xxxx" from e-mail address.
>
> [snip]>
> >Smith and Montgomery were easy listening jazz albums of that time that
> >got over run by the latter 60's into 70's rock invasion. But, you don't
> >hear too many octave guitar playing or the Orleans/New York blues B-3
> >organs since that time, may never find it in style again.
> >
> [snip]
Oliver Nelson did put together the "Down by the Riverside" arrangment,
but I thought it was one of J.Smith's solo album. I'll have to look. I
do recall the repetitive fingering for that one sequence while he
"walks" up the keyboard and the band responds in accent down a third.
Wes Montgomery music does bring back a lot of pleasant memory. It
wasn't abstract and it wasn't bluesey, it was that interim
pre-definition of 60's music, outside of the R&R groups. I'm vowing to
go ahead and replace my Wes Montgomery albums and Jimmy Smith albums
with this posting...just because of this nostalgic topic.<G>
I may, although, NOT replace my Mystic Moods albums.<G>
Dan Turner
James Clayton
Boston, "Fore Play Long Time".
Jim C.
jrei...@my-dejanews.com
dltu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
> Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
> Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
The album is _Lee Michaels_ (eponymous), One Way Records 33642.
Regards,
John
jrei...@my-dejanews.com
dltu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Oliver Nelson did put together the "Down by the Riverside" arrangment,
> but I thought it was one of J.Smith's solo album. I'll have to look.
It was on the 1966 Verve record _Dynamic Duo_.
Linda Dachtyl
jrei...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> dltu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > If you REALLY want to hear one of the best Hammond B3 solos, look for
> > Lee Michaels playing and singing "Stormy Monday" on the album featuring
> > Michaels and a drummer named Frosty.
>
> The album is _Lee Michaels_ (eponymous), One Way Records 33642.
The Lee Micheals Live LP with Keith Knudsen on drums has another great
version too. I just HAD to have a Hammond after this.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOO....Lord, Lord, better have mercy, have mercy, on me!
A great moment on the live lp.
Linda
Dan Turner
First Lee Michaels!! Now Jimmy Smith and Wes Montgomery!!!
We're not worthy...we're not worthy!!
Alright, what was the name of the album with Wes and James eating
sandwiches on the cover?<G>
Dan Turner
Dan Turner
You might have to stand on your tippy toes to get that high note in your
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOO.
Dan Turner
Dean L. Surkin
--Dean L. Surkin
Dan Turner wrote in message <35A17D...@bellsouth.net>...
[snip]
Dean L. Surkin
answers, and they sent me back to my record collection to listen to
recordings I hadn't heard in years.
--Dean L. Surkin
Andrew P. Mullhaupt wrote in message
<6msh4i$k...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>...
>
>Dean L. Surkin wrote in message <6mrktq$r...@world6.bellatlantic.net>...
>> what are the best (or most influential) Hammond organ solos in rock?
>
>
>1. Booker T: Green Onions, and several others.
>
>2. Matthew Fisher (Procol Harum): Whiter Shade of Pale (is it Bach? the
>debate still rages.)
>
>Later,
>Andrew Mullhaupt
>
>
Gary
response and I am really dissapointed because I was hoping to learn some
new music.
Anyway congrats for having your finger on the pulse.
For what it is worth I think the ultra simple but great "Gimme some
lovin' "
is up there.
Cheers
Gary.