Emerson music
Glenn Mandelkern
Duncan Vinson <vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu> wrote:
>In article <3gu32l$p...@news.u.washington.edu>,
>wo...@mail.labmed.washington.edu (Brent) wrote:
>
>> I've transcribed Karn Evil 9 - 2nd and 3rd impressions. I will be
>> working on 1st impression in the future. I haven't heard of sources
>> for the others. Let me know if you are interested.
>>
>> Brent Wood
>
>If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
>
There is a 90% complete transcription of Take a Pebble in an out of print book
entitled "Emerson Lake & Palmer". I say 90% because the only section that's
missing is an improvised section that starts out with some thick chords
which are then arpeggiated. This occurs in the second piano solo,
the one with the repeated pattern in the left hand that would sound like
10 ' Take a Pebble L.H. pattern
20 FOR K = 1 TO 32 'any number will do
30 PLAY "O2L8 F O3 C G C F O2 B- O3 C O2 G"
40 NEXT K
if played on an IBM-PC running GWBASIC.
In the foreword of this book which is written and signed by Keith Emerson,
he states that the songs are transcribed in their entirety with the exceptions
of solos from "Trilogy" and "Take a Pebble".
This book is a black book. Of all the 3 ELP music books out, this is the one
I've seen most often still lying around in sheet music store shelves.
All 3 ELP music books are out of print.
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Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I'm looking for some of Keith Emersons piano music. Specifically, that
>of 'The Barbarian', 'Lachesis' (from The Three Fates), 'Karn Evil 9'
>(1st/2nd/3rd Impressions), and more recently 'Close To Home' and 'Creole
>Dance'. If anyone knows of any FTP sites where this music could be
>aquired, I would be most grateful. Or, if anyone has taken the trouble
>to figure out these and have them written down, I would be most willing
>to pay for you for your effort.
>
ELP is my favorite band of all time. I found out about them through my
high school rock music teacher back in 1981 when I told him how sick and tired
I was with having to limit myself to playing simple chords, especially
with guitarists who were purely into sharp keys. He told me I should
listen to ELP, and especially play attention to their use of quartals.
Ever since then, I've been hooked on ELP and always on the lookout for
transcriptions or any references to their music.
Dissecting your above requests, let's see how much I can help you and other
readers:
1. The Barbarian
This song is almost a note-for-note adaptation of
"Allegro Barbaro", a solo piano work from Bela Bartok.
Any sheet music store will probably have this, I bought
a Boosey & Hawkes edition.
2. Lachesis (from Three Fates)
I'm tempted to say I would give my right arm for a transcription
of this tune, but if I do that I could not play it :-)
If there was ever an ELP song that I want printed it would
be this one.
All I know about this piece comes from an October 1977 Emerson
interview in which he was asked if he quoted this from somewhere.
He said, "No, it is an original. Why, what does it sound like?"
The interviewer then talked with Emerson about previous litigation
with Bartok's heirs and how Emerson inadvertently did not give
them (nor their ancestor) credit for the above Allegro Barbaro.
I've tried sometimes to transcribe this, but there are just
certain sections that use the pedal heavily, and I can't
pick out the notes. I have noticed, though, that it's
mostly based on suspended chords and augmented chords.
SO IF ANYONE HAS TRANSCRIBED LACHESIS, LET US (AND ME) KNOW!!!
3. Karn Evil 9
1st Impression--most of this compared to other ELP stuff
is relatively easy to transcribe. I've found that also
back and forth between the live version and the Brain Salad
Surgery version helps. Just remember that live they did it
in F, but in the studio, it's done in A-flat.
2nd Impression--this one sounds pretty involved. Another
netter said he's transcribed it, which I'm most interested in.
3rd Impression--I'd say this is probably the easiest to
transcribe because it's a slower movement and the notes are
clear and distinct. The one part that may give you trouble
has been transcribed--the solo appears in the October 1982
issue of Keyboard magazine. Go to your local library or
university music school library.
4. Close to Home
I think someone on the ELP digest (write to arn...@iii.net)
offered a transcription for this once.
5. Creole Dance
I fully credit Keith Emerson for introducing me to the music
of Alberto Ginastera. After listening to Toccata, I bought
the whole concerto it was based on. After that, I was hooked
on Ginastera and have bought just about every work on CD that
includes Ginastera. I've even got CD's with duplicate songs
just to hear other performer's interpretations.
I'll never forget the excitement I felt when I saw Keith Emerson
live on stage in 1992. He started playing a solo (but did not
say what it was called). It sounded very familiar--it was as
if Keith Emerson and I were playing "Name that Tune".
The Ginastera work is "Suite de Danzas Criollas", and the portion
that Emerson is basing this on is called "Coda". If you want
to hear piano versions of this and other Ginastera pieces,
pick up CD's by Barbara Nissman, a pianist who studied
under Ginastera himself.
Sheet music stores may carry this. Worst case you may have
to special order it which is what I did to get some other
Ginastera material, like his Piano Sonatas.
Along this same thread, I'm going to submit what I've posted in the past
concerning known published Emerson, Lake & Palmer music, including a
strategy I've used to locate these out of print books.
Glenn Mandelkern
David Brent Consolla <db...@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>I'm also interested in finding sheet music or transcriptions to
>ELP, esp. "KE9 1st Imp." (both parts), "Lucky Man", "From the
>Beginning", "Pirates", and "I Believe in Father Christmas". I
>have a book that contains "Trilogy", "Endless Enigma Parts 1 &
>2", "Take a Pebble", "The Sheriff", "Jeremy Bender", and "Benny
>the Bouncer". I've also seen a book for TARKUS. If anyone
>knows where I can find all of this, please post.
Okay, let me proceed with yet another dissection to see how I may be
of service. I already covered KE9 in one of my previous posts, so let me
skip to the next item:
1. Lucky Man
This is found in the book ELP Anthology
The solo is found in a previous issue of Keyboard magazine,
sometime in the 80's. It is an issue that contains something
like "Lead Playing Tips", that includes Keith Emerson,
Tom Coster, Jan Hammer and other keyboardists.
2. From the Beginning
I have not seen this written. However, it's a fairly easy
song to transcribe. It's in A minor.
Just sit down with the record and do it. Oddly enough, I hear
this song every so often on the easy listening station here in
the SF Bay Area, 100.3 FM.
(They always cut it off at KE's solo!)
3. Pirates
The ENTIRE song appears in ELP Anthology.
4. I Believe in Father Christmas
This is also not that difficult. It's in D.
For those songs which I've said are not that hard to transcribe,
perhaps a fellow musician with a good sense of ear training can help
you and other readers figure them out.
My next post relates to the questions above concerning the known published
ELP books. Hopefully it will answer them.
In another post, I'll cover the known ELP published books, as well as my
strategy for finding these.
Glenn Mandelkern
ELP has released the following three sheet music books:
1. ELP--this is a black book with gold lettering along the
bottom showing Emerson, Lake and Palmer in a cursive-type
italic font. The logo is on top. It contains a foreword
by Keith.
ELP has the following:
The Endless Enigma
The Endless Enigma Part II
Benny the Bouncer
Jeremy Bender
Take a Pebble
Trilogy
Some of the songs are written in their entirety,
like the solo from Benny the Bouncer. Other
sections state to improvise. That's found
in portions of Take a Pebble and Trilogy.
2. ELP Anthology--this is a black book with a nice cover,
the pages have this beige background making them easy
to read without any glare.
ELP Anthology has the following:
Pirates
Memoirs from an Officer and a Gentleman
Still You Turn Me On
The Fugue
Lucky Man
3. ELP Tarkus--this book has the Tarkus armadillo and album
cover drawn on it, with a large flap to be used as a
bookmark. The pages are sky blue, with the music
written in a navy blue ink.
ELP Tarkus contains the entire Tarkus album, although
some places are marked as improvisations over chords,
such as one place in Stones of Years after first two
verses and another section of Bitches' Crystal.
As far as availability is concerned, they have long been out of print.
However, if you try hard enough, you will find them. One time, a friend
of mine called me from New York to tell me he saw the ELP book in the
front window of a music store on Broadway and 50th Street.
Look in the yellow pages of the sleepiest towns around for sheet music places.
That's how I found my ELP (#1 above), in the little town of Porterville, CA.
If you look for it on the map, you'll see it's in the middle of nowhere.
I went to this place called Meade Music which was really gross looking
and disgusting. This old man was sitting with his cat on the desk with
papers falling all around him, cigarette ash on the dingy carpet.
I looked around, he had a lot of out of print stuff. When I went there,
I saw some Barry Manilow stuff, but more important, I saw Alan Parson's
I Robot. Guess what was behind the I Robot?
I told him he had a cute cat. He said it belonged to his wife, that
before passing away, she wanted him to "always keep [her] pussy warm." :-)
Then he looked at the I Robot cover and the ELP book. He asked, "Who are
these people? Who the hell is Alan Parsons?"
I said, "They're two of my favorite rock bands, especially ELP."
He said, "You young people are crazy! Whatever happened to Bach, Beethoven
and Brahms, the three B's?"
I said, "Well, you'd be surprised, Emerson knows about them!"
Robert Murray
of 'The Barbarian', 'Lachesis' (from The Three Fates), 'Karn Evil 9'
(1st/2nd/3rd Impressions), and more recently 'Close To Home' and 'Creole
Dance'. If anyone knows of any FTP sites where this music could be
aquired, I would be most grateful. Or, if anyone has taken the trouble
to figure out these and have them written down, I would be most willing
to pay for you for your effort.
Hoping,
Robert
mathias thallmayer
>If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
If I recall correctly, it was available in their first songbook,
with the exception of the piano solo section, but it did have the
acoustic guitar part.
--
Mathias
Duncan Vinson
> I've transcribed Karn Evil 9 - 2nd and 3rd impressions. I will be
> working on 1st impression in the future. I haven't heard of sources
> for the others. Let me know if you are interested.
>
> Brent Wood
If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
Duncan
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Robert Murray
(Oliver B. Warzecha) writes:
>Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
>If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
>
>Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
>the piano strings"-thing?
Well, you just basically hold down the chord and, using a plectrum, strum the
strings inside the piano. May be tough on an upright. Emerson obviously plays
it on a grand.
Robert
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Robert Murray
Giordano) writes:
>mat...@tarkus.ocis.temple.edu (mathias thallmayer) writes:
>> Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
>> >If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about
it!
>> If I recall correctly, it was available in their first songbook,
>> with the exception of the piano solo section, but it did have the
>> acoustic guitar part.
>> icono...@tarkus.ocis.temple.edu
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
\ Now there's a *real* ELP fan!
>Their anthology has it with the guitar solo, but it also has the
>beginning part of the piano solo, which is about 5 pages long, and
>ends with it saying "improvise ad lib over left hand patterns." I'm
>still trying to learn the left hand arpeggio, yet I still can't get it
>at the right tempo. Keith's work is always challenging.
You'll get it. I played it so much I memorized the solo and got a little bored
with it, so I improvise over it on my own. You get to a point where you can
just 'ignore' what your left hand is doing and jam along with your right.
Robert Murray
writes:
>In article <3ha5v5$1...@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de>,
>o...@schlunz.chemie.uni-dortmund.de (Oliver B. Warzecha) said:
>>Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
>>: If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about
>>it!
>>
>>Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
>>the piano strings"-thing?
>
What?!?! I don't think so. See my previous post to the original. I can't
even imagine Emerson playing an autoharp.
Robert Murray
writes:
>ELP has released the following three sheet music books:
>
> [ summary of ELP books mostly deleted ]
>
> ELP has the following:
> The Endless Enigma
> The Endless Enigma Part II
> . . .
> ELP Anthology has the following:
> The Fugue
Why didn't they include this with The Endless Enigma, Parts I and II from the
other book?
> Still You Turn Me On
> Lucky Man
As with many piano arrangements for guitar music, I found both of these to be
rather poor. I play both guitar and the keys, and I really dislike most of the
chord-melody arrangements that are done for guitar pieces. I wish they would
have done these like they did with the guitar section of 'Take A Pebble' in the
first ELP book.
> Memoirs from an Officer and a Gentleman
So many people seem to hate this album, but I love to play this suite. 'Love At
First Sight' is a wonderful piano piece.
>As far as availability is concerned, they have long been out of print.
Yeah, too bad. All mine are *very* ragged and worn from many years of turning
through the pages.
Robert Murray
writes:
>In article <3gsd57$4...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,
>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>I'm looking for some of Keith Emersons piano music.
>> ...[ paragraph scrapped]
>> I would be most willing to pay for you for your effort.
Oops! I just noticed my typo. I meant to say:
"I would be most willing to pay you for your effort."
>ELP is my favorite band of all time.
Hear, hear! In my case, their tied for 1st with Yes. When I'm in a 'guitar
mood', I listen to Yes. When I'm in a keyboard mood, it's ELP all the way.
(Oh no, please not *another* Emerson vs. Wakeman thread in a.m.p.!! Besides,
I've read enough of those threads to know that Emerson wins by a landslide!)
>...especially with guitarists who were purely into sharp keys.
Hmmmm... now that I think about, you right! They do, don't they! It never
really mattered to me, but most of my non-educated guitar buddies really
struggle with flats.
>Dissecting your above requests, let's see how much I can help you and other
>readers:
>
> [ wonderful commentary about ELP tunes deleted ]
>
> 2. Lachesis (from Three Fates)
> I'm tempted to say I would give my right arm for a transcription
> of this tune, but if I do that I could not play it :-)
Well, unless you play a church organ, maybe your left leg would do! :-)
Of course, then you probably wouldn't be able to play 'Clotho'.
> 3. Karn Evil 9
> 2nd Impression--this one sounds pretty involved. Another
> netter said he's transcribed it, which I'm most interested in.
Yes, I've sent him a request, and hopefully it's in the mail to me. I'll let
you know how it is.
> 3rd Impression--I'd say this is probably the easiest to
> transcribe because it's a slower movement and the notes are
> clear and distinct. The one part that may give you trouble
> has been transcribed--the solo appears in the October 1982
> issue of Keyboard magazine. Go to your local library or
> university music school library.
Really? I had no idea. Thanks for the tip. I'll be looking this weekend.
> 5. Creole Dance
>
> I fully credit Keith Emerson for introducing me to the music
> of Alberto Ginastera. After listening to Toccata, I bought
> the whole concerto it was based on.
Do you know if that concerto is still in print? I've asked everywhere and have
been unsuccessful in finding *anything* on Alberto Ginastera.
>Glenn Mandelkern Hee, hee, hee, hee!
Thanks for that great post, Glenn!
Robert Murray
writes:
>There is a 90% complete transcription of Take a Pebble in an out of print book
>entitled "Emerson Lake & Palmer". I say 90% because the only section that's
>missing is an improvised section that starts out with some thick chords
>which are then arpeggiated. This occurs in the second piano solo,
>the one with the repeated pattern in the left hand that would sound like
>
> 10 ' Take a Pebble L.H. pattern
> 20 FOR K = 1 TO 32 'any number will do
> 30 PLAY "O2L8 F O3 C G C F O2 B- O3 C O2 G"
> 40 NEXT K
HA! I like your notation.
As your probably aware, a good part of the solo is transcribed. Then, at one
point, his right hand crosses over his left to play a solo which has its notes
lower than your above mentioned left-hand pattern. I've figured out that part, but
didn't go any farther with the 'thick chord' part your talking about. The only
other part that I wish was there is the neat fill at the end of the last verse,
just before the '..of our lives..' repeat. It's only a measure of two, but it
sounds great!
Robert Murray
writes:
>Okay, let me proceed with yet another dissection to see how I may be
>of service. I already covered KE9 in one of my previous posts, so let me
>skip to the next item:
>
>
> 4. I Believe in Father Christmas
> This is also not that difficult. It's in D.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't his guitar tuned to an open D? If not, at
least the low E has been tuned down to D. Unfortunately, I've never worked this
one out, but its a gem. I play it constantly during the Christmas season.
Glenn Mandelkern
Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <D3LB...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn Mandelkern)
>writes:
>
>>In article <3gsd57$4...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,
>>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>I'm looking for some of Keith Emersons piano music.
>>
>> I fully credit Keith Emerson for introducing me to the music
>> of Alberto Ginastera. After listening to Toccata, I bought
>> the whole concerto it was based on.
>
>Do you know if that concerto is still in print? I've asked everywhere and have
>been unsuccessful in finding *anything* on Alberto Ginastera.
>
I only saw this concerto's sheet music once a long time ago in the music
library of a university. This is probably your best bet, especially if
you go to one where they don't let you check out stuff, so that at least
you could make a copy. I regret not having done that ages ago when I
lived back east. However, here on the west coast, there are music
conservatories which I have still to visit. Now, perhaps, I have a
reason to.
As far as finding more Ginastera material, I have been able to get it
through special order here in San Jose through a sheet music store
named "Music Music Music" which I highly recommend. The staff is
very friendly and knowledgeable.
The Ginastera music has been a little pricey, e.g., $13 for his
Piano Sonata #1. I also bought "Suite de Danzas Criollas" for $10,
the one that Keith bases his Creole Dance solo on. If my memory
serves me correct, these are Boosey & Hawkes publications.
Try contacting this store:
Music Music Music
60 Winchester Blvd.
Santa Clara, CA (don't know ZIP)
(408) 985-9677
Mail order is available.
Tower Records has been where I've bought all my Ginastera CD's,
having been most happy with the ones by Barbara Nissman. I also once
bought a $3.99 special tape (orange & black) of Ginastera by a pianist
with a Spanish name. I've only seen that tape once. The CD of the piano
concerto is an orange one. I love seeing the reaction of people I have
over when I turn up the volume of the last movement (Toccata), especially
on the ending chords.
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Glenn Mandelkern Hee, hee, hee, hee!
David Brent Consolla
Anthony Giordano
beginning part of the piano solo, which is about 5 pages long, and
ends with it saying "improvise ad lib over left hand patterns." I'm
still trying to learn the left hand arpeggio, yet I still can't get it
at the right tempo. Keith's work is always challenging.
Tony (T.G.)
Glenn Mandelkern
Oliver B. Warzecha <o...@schlunz.chemie.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:
>Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
>: If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
>
>Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
>the piano strings"-thing?
I'm trying to do this from memory; hopefully you get the basic idea.
A footnote at the bottom of the first page states that the chords that
have a plus sign on top of them are to be played by holding the keys
down on the piano, then using a plectrum that's struck across the strings.
It also says to NOT hold down the pedal because then ALL strings will sound.
The first chord has the notes (from top to bottom) G-, D-, F, A-.
The next chord is the same chord up a whole step, namely A-, E-, G, B-.
That first G- is the G- immediately below Middle C.
Eventually Take A Pebble plays these chords with their E- and F roots.
John Flynn
On Feb 20 1995 jam...@ix.netcom.com (Robert Murray) wrote:
>I'm looking for some of Keith Emersons piano music. Specifically, that
>of 'The Barbarian', 'Lachesis' (from The Three Fates), 'Karn Evil 9'...
> ...etc.
"The Barbarian" is adapted from "Allegro Barbaro" by Bela Bartok,
available from Boosey and Hawkes. The piano interlude you hear on
the ELP album is pretty close to the original's middle section
notewise, but the tempo and interpretation are probably a lot
different from what Bartok intended. Although, considering that
nobody applauded when he debuted it, he might not mind ELP's
rendition on a million-selling album. I don't think any
transcriptions of the other stuff are available.
Robert Murray
(David Brent Consolla) writes:
Yes, there is a book for Tarkus - I have it. However, I sure it has
long since been out of print. You might need to look wherever used
music books can be found to get that one.
Brent
Jeff Hrrsn
"strumming
>the piano strings"-thing?
They printed the notes he played and wrote verbal instructions to strum
the notes from inside the piano. Not to tough! :)
* jeff harrison * corona, ca. *
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Glenn Mandelkern
Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <D3r55...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn Mandelkern)
>writes:
>
>>
>>In article <3hc9ii$d...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
>>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>In <D3LCB...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn
>Mandelkern)
>>>writes:
>>>>ELP has released the following three sheet music books:
>>>> [ summary of ELP books mostly deleted ]
>>>> Memoirs from an Officer and a Gentleman
>>>So many people seem to hate this album, but I love to play this suite.
>>>'Love At First Sight' is a wonderful piano piece.
>>
>>happens to be a Chopin Etude, Op. 10. I can't remember right now if
>>it's No. 1 or No. 2, but for sure it's in C major and Op. 10.
>
>Yes. I'd forgot about that. I like the way Emerson throws in little tidbits
>of the classics. I remember the piano break in 'The Only Way' off Tarkus is
>also a classical tidbit. I forget from what, tho. Glenn?
>
>
The piano break in "The Only Way" is the prelude in D minor
from the Well Tempered Clavier, Book I by J. S. Bach.
Robert Murray
>
>In article <3hc9ii$d...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>In <D3LCB...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn
Mandelkern)
>>writes:
>>>ELP has released the following three sheet music books:
>>> [ summary of ELP books mostly deleted ]
>>> ELP Anthology has the following:
>>> Memoirs from an Officer and a Gentleman
>>So many people seem to hate this album, but I love to play this suite.
>>'Love At First Sight' is a wonderful piano piece.
>
>The first page "Love At First Sight", i.e., the piano solo at the start,
>happens to be a Chopin Etude, Op. 10. I can't remember right now if
>it's No. 1 or No. 2, but for sure it's in C major and Op. 10.
Yes. I'd forgot about that. I like the way Emerson throws in little tidbits
of the classics. I remember the piano break in 'The Only Way' off Tarkus is
also a classical tidbit. I forget from what, tho. Glenn?
>Many times when I'm listening to recordings of Chopin Etudes and hear this,
>I'm expecting to hear "Love at First Sight", only to hear the rest of
>the etude. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate them both, but having
>heard Love Beach's second side so many times, it's like a knee-jerk response
>wanting to hear "girls, oh there were girls".
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, yeah. I've played this passionately on many occaisions when I was 'in
love' myself. <sigh>
>This reminds me of an interesting story I've told before about
>"Touch and Go", from Emerson, Lake & Powell.
>
> [ story about old man and Greensleeves deleted ]
>
Good story, Glenn.
>This tape is loaded with well-known classical tunes. It's also got
>Ravel's Prelude for a Dead Princess, Tschaikovsky's Swan Lake, and more.
>It's got a green, white, and purple cover, it's in bargain bins everywhere.
>It's also got the tune that Tony Bennett sings, "Take my hand, I'm a Stranger
>in Paradise." Boy, does this tape contain tunes that others have lifted :-)
Thanks for the tip. I'll add it to my list of things to look for.
Robert
Oliver B. Warzecha
: If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about it!
Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
the piano strings"-thing?
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Steve Kilpatrick
o...@schlunz.chemie.uni-dortmund.de (Oliver B. Warzecha) said:
>: If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about
>it!
>
>Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
>the piano strings"-thing?
Huh? That's an autoharp. Just write the chords.
Steve Kilpatrick
Ola Rinta-Koski
mathias> Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
>> If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell
>> me about it!
mathias> If I recall correctly, it was available in their first
mathias> songbook, with the exception of the piano solo section, but
mathias> it did have the acoustic guitar part.
Correct. It's a bit pain to play on an ordinary upright, though,
unless you cheat and *don't* open up the piano... BTW, the book in
question is in fact very good, though the selection of songs is a bit
curious.
--
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http://anjovis.tky.hut.fi/~ola/ Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream
Tom Nagy
>>Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
>>the piano strings"-thing?
>Huh? That's an autoharp. Just write the chords.
Nope. That's Emerson plucking the piano strings. It's notated in the ELP
book as "pluck", I believe. Not terribly inventive, but it gets the job
done.
Tom
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Electrical Engineering, U Waterloo here, but I seem to have run out of space
Robert Murray
>"The Barbarian" is adapted from "Allegro Barbaro" by Bela Bartok,
>available from Boosey and Hawkes. The piano interlude you hear on
>the ELP album is pretty close to the original's middle section
>notewise, but the tempo and interpretation are probably a lot
>different from what Bartok intended. Although, considering that
>nobody applauded when he debuted it, he might not mind ELP's
>rendition on a million-selling album.
Really? _Nobody_ applauded? Thats too bad. Thats like telling someone 'your
child is ugly'. He must have felt like shit. My great-grandfather was a
semi-famous pianist/composer/pedagogue who, in 1938, after reading a New York
Times review of his previous nights performance of his Symphony in D minor, was
so devistated that he had no desire to compose again, and killed himself later
that year.
Musicians and composers are very emotionally involved and attached to their
music, like a mother to her child.
Robert Murray
writes:
>In article <3hcb1i$p...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>In <D3LB...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn Mandelkern)
>>writes:
>>
>>>In article <3gsd57$4...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,
>>>Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>I'm looking for some of Keith Emersons piano music.
>>> 5. Creole Dance
>>>
>>> I fully credit Keith Emerson for introducing me to the music
>>> of Alberto Ginastera. After listening to Toccata, I bought
>>> the whole concerto it was based on.
>>
>>Do you know if that concerto is still in print? I've asked everywhere and
have
>>been unsuccessful in finding *anything* on Alberto Ginastera.
>
>
>Try contacting this store:
> Music Music Music
> 60 Winchester Blvd.
> Santa Clara, CA (don't know ZIP)
> (408) 985-9677
>
>Mail order is available.
>
Excellent! Thank you for that info. I will contact them today!
Robert
Robert Murray
writes:
>>The first page "Love At First Sight", i.e., the piano solo at the start,
>>happens to be a Chopin Etude, Op. 10. I can't remember right now if
>>it's No. 1 or No. 2, but for sure it's in C major and Op. 10.
>
>Yes. I'd forgot about that. I like the way Emerson throws in little tidbits
>of the classics. I remember the piano break in 'The Only Way' off Tarkus is
>also a classical tidbit. I forget from what, tho. Glenn?
Nevermind, I remembered! It's prelude 6, by Bach, Well-Tempered Clavier for
the Piano.
Duncan Vinson
(Steve Kilpatrick) wrote:
I disagree. To my ear, it is clearly strumming the strings inside the piano.
Duncan
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Robert Parish
jam...@ix.netcom.com (Robert Murray) writes:
>>>Do you know if that concerto is still in print? I've asked everywhere and
Academy Sound and Vision has a series out of music by Ginastera.
The Piano Concerto is on ASV CD DCA 654. I have this CD, and I'm very
happy with it. ASV also has some disks of Ginastera's piano music.
Fans of Emerson ought to also check out Bartok's piano music if they
haven't yet. The solo piano music is cool-- especially some of the
music from Mikrocosmos. CBS has a sampler of this material with
Bartok himself playing on MPK 47676 which has good sound for a 1940's
recording. And also check out the Bartok Piano Concertos.
Happy listening!
---Robert Parish
John Lundell
>> 5. Creole Dance
>>
>> I fully credit Keith Emerson for introducing me to the music
>> of Alberto Ginastera. After listening to Toccata, I bought
>> the whole concerto it was based on.
>
>Do you know if that concerto is still in print? I've asked everywhere and have
>been unsuccessful in finding *anything* on Alberto Ginastera.
I found "Suite de Danzas Criollas, Op. 15" at a local music store
in Sunnyvale. The beginning part of Creole Dance comes from the
coda. It's great fun to play.
John
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John Lundell.......
Robert Murray
>Robert Murray wrote:
>>I've asked everywhere
>>and have been unsuccessful in finding *anything* on Alberto Ginastera.
>
>I found "Suite de Danzas Criollas, Op. 15" at a local music store
>in Sunnyvale. The beginning part of Creole Dance comes from the
>coda. It's great fun to play.
Got it. I spoke a little too soon. I *finally* found it in a small
hole-in-the-wall down in Sun Juan Capistrano. Definately great fun.
--
Robert W. Murray, Jr.
Net: r...@acm.org
Jonah Orlofsky
lifted so much music from prior composers, without ever
giving credit, and no on critizes this practice. Don't get me wrong
I'm a big ELP fan. But shouldn't they have given credit to the
composers on their albums? Particularly in a case like Allegro
Barbero, where they just copy the whole piece, including using
a take off on the original name!
Glenn Mandelkern
John,
I tried responding to you directly through e-mail, but cannot mail to
john@spot. Since most readers here are scattered throughout California
(such as Robert Murray in San Juan Capistrano) it may be of general
interest. Here goes . . .
554 john@spot... Service unavailable
----- Unsent message follows -----
I live in south San Jose, close to Blossom Hill Road.
I'm also the one who submitted the above part of attributing Keith Emerson
introducing Ginastera to me.
It was not clear to me from your post if you meant that you obtained
a recording in Sunnyvale or the sheet music for Suite de Danzas Criollas
I already bought my sheet music at Music Music Music, so I don't need
a second copy. :-)
However, I was wondering if maybe there's a sheet music place I should
know about in Sunnyvale. The only place I know of is Music World over
on Washington Ave, but I've never really found them to have an extensive
selection.
Glenn
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______________________________________________________________________________
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Clint Hyde
--> In article <3hamt4$h...@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, ST40...@brownvm.brown.edu
--> (Steve Kilpatrick) wrote:
-->
--> > In article <3ha5v5$1...@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de>,
--> > o...@schlunz.chemie.uni-dortmund.de (Oliver B. Warzecha) said:
--> > >Duncan Vinson (vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu) wrote:
--> > >: If anyone knows of a transcription of "Take a Pebble", please tell me about
--> > >it!
--> > >
--> > >Hey, that would be interesting! How will anyone transcribe this "strumming
--> > >the piano strings"-thing?
--> >
--> > Huh? That's an autoharp. Just write the chords.
--> >
--> > Steve Kilpatrick
-->
--> I disagree. To my ear, it is clearly strumming the strings inside the piano.
--> Duncan
-->
it is, of course, just exactly that. Keith leans over the front/top of
the grand piano, which has its top up, reaches in over the strings, and
runs a finger (or perharps two or three) across a bunch of them.
many of us have seen him do it.
-- clint
Glenn Mandelkern
Robert Murray <jam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <D3LCB...@Corp.Megatest.COM> gma...@Corp.Megatest.COM (Glenn Mandelkern)
>writes:
>
>>ELP has released the following three sheet music books:
>>
>> [ summary of ELP books mostly deleted ]
>>
>> ELP Anthology has the following:
>
>
>> Memoirs from an Officer and a Gentleman
>
>So many people seem to hate this album, but I love to play this suite. 'Love At
>First Sight' is a wonderful piano piece.
>
>
The first page "Love At First Sight", i.e., the piano solo at the start,
happens to be a Chopin Etude, Op. 10. I can't remember right now if
it's No. 1 or No. 2, but for sure it's in C major and Op. 10.
Many times when I'm listening to recordings of Chopin Etudes and hear this,
I'm expecting to hear "Love at First Sight", only to hear the rest of
the etude. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate them both, but having
heard Love Beach's second side so many times, it's like a knee-jerk response
wanting to hear "girls, oh there were girls".
This reminds me of an interesting story I've told before about
"Touch and Go", from Emerson, Lake & Powell.
I was in a music store trying out new synthesizers. This store back east
just opened up a synth department; it was always known for its wide
assortment of sheet music (Allegro Music in Coral Gables, FL). As I tried
the synths, I heard a sound that was perfect for "Touch and Go".
An elderly couple was walking around the store and heard me playing.
The man walked up to me and said, "Sonny, why are you playing Greensleeves
like that?" I said, "Greensleeves? I'm playing Touch and Go."
He said, "No, that's Greensleeves, I know what it is supposed to sound like!"
I responded, "Sir, there was a band called Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
They broke apart in 1977, but now they have a new drummer named Cozy Powell,
and this is the first single they released. This is Touch and Go, I know
what that's supposed to sound like."
I then overheard them talking amongst themselves, mumbling something about
"kids today", "he's ruining Greensleeves", etc. I was about 17 at the time.
Then one day I bought this $3.99 bargain classical tape which was something
like "Music for an Afternoon". It starts with several Debussy pieces.
I put it on the first time when studying one night.
Then Side Two came on. All of a sudden, I hear this familiar melody
which sounded just like "Touch and Go", only slower and on strings.
I pulled out the tape and saw, "Fantasy on Greensleeves--Vaughn Williams".
I remembered saying, "Wow! The old man was right!"
This tape is loaded with well-known classical tunes. It's also got
Ravel's Prelude for a Dead Princess, Tschaikovsky's Swan Lake, and more.
It's got a green, white, and purple cover, it's in bargain bins everywhere.
It's also got the tune that Tony Bennett sings, "Take my hand, I'm a Stranger
in Paradise." Boy, does this tape contain tunes that others have lifted :-)
--
Andrew Colyer
I have to perform Karn Evil 9, 1st Impression, Part 1 - live with a band.
I'm looking for transcriptions, if anyone has one.
I've heard about Brent Wood, but don't know how to get a hold of him, or anyone else who might have a copy.
I can do it myself, but I'm on a time constraint, and it would be much easier if I could just read it.
Thank you so much for your help!
Andrew Colyer
New York
and...@colyermusic.com
On Monday, February 6, 1995 at 12:07:49 PM UTC-5, Glenn Mandelkern wrote:
> In article <vinsold0-040...@locust.sewanee.edu>,
> Duncan Vinson <vins...@seraph1.sewanee.edu> wrote:
> >In article <3gu32l$p...@news.u.washington.edu>,
> >
>
> There is a 90% complete transcription of Take a Pebble in an out of print book
> entitled "Emerson Lake & Palmer". I say 90% because the only section that's
> missing is an improvised section that starts out with some thick chords
> which are then arpeggiated. This occurs in the second piano solo,
> the one with the repeated pattern in the left hand that would sound like
>
> 10 ' Take a Pebble L.H. pattern
> 20 FOR K = 1 TO 32 'any number will do
> 30 PLAY "O2L8 F O3 C G C F O2 B- O3 C O2 G"
> 40 NEXT K
>
> if played on an IBM-PC running GWBASIC.
>
> In the foreword of this book which is written and signed by Keith Emerson,
> he states that the songs are transcribed in their entirety with the exceptions
> of solos from "Trilogy" and "Take a Pebble".
>
> This book is a black book. Of all the 3 ELP music books out, this is the one
> I've seen most often still lying around in sheet music store shelves.
> All 3 ELP music books are out of print.