Does anybody know why Yamaha piano prices is double in the US
Charles Nguyen
I'm looking for a Yamaha Clavinova CVP 107 here in the US. Current list price
is $5000 . I stumbled across a web site from Germany and they're selling almost
half of what it costs here.
Has anybody ordered one from overseas ?
If so please share your experience ...
Thanks
Charles
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Richard Galassini
>Hello readers,
>I'm looking for a Yamaha Clavinova CVP 107 here in the US. Current list price
>is $5000 . I stumbled across a web site from Germany and they're selling
>almost
>half of what it costs here.
>Has anybody ordered one from overseas ?
>If so please share your experience ...
>Thanks
>Charles
two things that you have to consider, Charles:
1) Yamaha USA (distributor that honors warranty claims in the USA) will not
provide parts support or warranty repair to a unit that was not distributed by
them through the proper channels (ordering from Europe is not a proper channel
to them)
2) because of power differences a transformer will have to be used
You make the choice.
2)
Richard Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co
Phila,. Pa.
1 (800) 394-1117
URL:http://voce88.tripod.com/richspianopage
Jim McCord
91fe2f31c19ef906039...@mygate.mailgate.org, "Charles Nguyen"
<nguy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello readers,
> I'm looking for a Yamaha Clavinova CVP 107 here in the US. Current list price
> is $5000 . I stumbled across a web site from Germany and they're selling
> almost
> half of what it costs here.
> Has anybody ordered one from overseas ?
> If so please share your experience ...
> Thanks
> Charles
>
This topic has been discussed extensively on the Yamaha User Group
www.cvpug.com. Consensus seems to be that you're OK if you buy from a
well-known dealer (pianodepot, etc.) Some people have also had good luck
buying from Canadian dealers.
Of course, nobody sells for list, so the advantages may be less than it
appears.
--
jim
Radu Focshaner
> >I'm looking for a Yamaha Clavinova CVP 107 here in the US. Current list price
> >is $5000 . I stumbled across a web site from Germany and they're selling
> >almost
> >half of what it costs here.
> 2) because of power differences a transformer will have to be used
Ricco, what did you do during math lessons ? A unit using only 110v
should cost half the price of a unit using 220V. Don't you see it ?
Shame on you...
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I really have no life...
I go around reading posts and,without having any original thought,
or adding anything to the subject,simply make short simpleminded
remarQs.
rasw
electronic components in those toasters to an American climate!
"Radu Focshaner" <ra...@writeme.com> wrote in message
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Jeff K.
twice as many volts requires half as many amps, so the power is the
same......though this is moot because what he really meant was that
the US was a more powerful country than Germany <g&d>.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:45:25 -0800, Radu Focshaner <ra...@writeme.com>
wrote:
Tim
MgSO412H2O
>>
>>Hello readers,
>>I'm looking for a Yamaha Clavinova CVP 107 here in the US. Current list
>>price is $5000 . I stumbled across a web site from Germany and they're
>>selling almost
>>half of what it costs here.
>>Has anybody ordered one from overseas ?
>>If so please share your experience ...
>>Thanks
>>Charles
>
>
> two things that you have to consider, Charles:
>
> 1) Yamaha USA (distributor that honors warranty claims in the USA) will
> not provide parts support or warranty repair to a unit that was not
> distributed by them through the proper channels (ordering from Europe is
> not a proper channel to them)
>
> 2) because of power differences a transformer will have to be used
>
> You make the choice.
I understand that it would be illegal for Yamaha to not provide parts
support. They do not support warranty repair, but they will sell you the
parts if you ask for them.
At any rate, Yamaha USA sold me all the schematics and parts required to
convert the 220V Clavinova to 110V. I converted my CVP 107 in 10 minutes
at a cost of $124. I do not use a transformer.
If the warranty support is worth $2500, makes me wonder how reliable Yamaha
Clavinovas are!
The pricing problem runs much deeper than simple sqabbles about the list
price. I understand the USA dealers can't even buy the Clavinovas at cost
for what you can buy it in Germany. I believe Yamaha considers Americans
to be willing to pay more, so they charge more.
Richard Galassini
>The pricing problem runs much deeper than simple sqabbles about the list
>price. I understand the USA dealers can't even buy the Clavinovas at cost
>for what you can buy it in Germany. I believe Yamaha considers Americans
>to be willing to pay more, so they charge more.
Hmmm..... I think the transformer of transformers speaks with much wisdom.
Americans?? Pay more than a digie is worth?? ;-)
Rick Clark
magnesium sulfate whaaaaa?
Juan Arango
they charge more.
incomplete.
First of all, other makers appear to have that same impression of
Americans, since I found that Roland and other brands can also be bought
from Germany or Belgium at savings of 40 to 50% compared to list prices
in the US.
Additionally, those makers do not single out Americans. When I started
looking into Clavinovas (Yamaha) and saw the difference in prices
between the US and Germany, I assumed that there would have to be even
better deals available for buying from Japan. I asked a Japanese
coworker to look for prices in current models (CVP and CLP) in Japan,
and he found that the list prices there were even higher than in
America!!!
Finally, someone else commented that nobody pays list price in this
country. However, the difference in price is still huge after moving
down from the American "List price" to "Sale price" and then taking
another 10% down after a lot of talk.
Juan
Jory A. Olson
> they charge more.
> There must be a lot of truth to that, except that the statement seems
> incomplete.
This is easily explained by simple economics.
The Japanese yen is not doing well against the dollar. A few years ago it
took less than 100 yen to buy a US dollar. Today it takes over 125 yen to
buy a dollar. See: http://www.xe.com/ucc/ for a simplistic way to see the
exchange rate.
The dollar is also doing extremely well against other European currencies.
For example the Swedish krone is over 10 SEK to the US dollar. A few months
ago it was over 11 kroner to the dollar! Considering that about 10 years
ago there were less than 6 kroner to the US dollar this is quite a change.
Similarly, in recent years the German mark was about 1.5 or 1.6 marks to the
US dollar. Now it's about 2.2 marks to the dollar.
All of these things combine to make things in Europe generally cheaper for
Americans. This is especially true for Japanese made goods purchased in
Europe using US dollars.
No conspiracy. No big mystery. Simple economics.
Jory
Arthur Blumenfeld
had for $0.90.