HOW MANY WATTS for E-DRUMS ????

[vanwingen]

What is the best over all number of watts I should look for in a reasonable
keyboard amp for my e-drum kit?
(Need the good bass sound).

20 watt? 50 watt? 60 watt? 100 watt? 300 watt?........???
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[Dan Radin]

"vanwingen" <vanw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What is the best over all number of watts I should look for in a
reasonable
> keyboard amp for my e-drum kit?
> (Need the good bass sound).
>
> 20 watt? 50 watt? 60 watt? 100 watt? 300 watt?........???

For what application?

[bja...@users.iwaynet.net]

vanwingen <vanw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> What is the best over all number of watts I should look for in a reasonable
> keyboard amp for my e-drum kit?
> (Need the good bass sound).

> 20 watt? 50 watt? 60 watt? 100 watt? 300 watt?........???

20 Watt = Headphones
50-60 Watt = Practice amp
100 Watt = Coffee house gig with acoustic guitars
300 Watt = Most Bar sized venues.
1000 Watt = medium size dance gigs with heavy bass.
multi-kilowatt = Stadium gigs or Hip Hop gigs... :)

Benj
(Who notes that almost all of the power goes into
making your bass drum sound loud)

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[Dik LeDoux]

Watts are like RAM. Buy as much as you can afford. You can always turn
down.

Dik

[Steve Gardner]

I have had two different Vdrum kits. I would stay away from the Roland PM3.
Its a personal monitor, expensive and never did it for me. I liked the JBL
Eon and I like the Mackie 450. both of these are powered, lightweight and
can be had on Ebay for 350.00-450.00ish. I always used one of these and ran
a line to the PA.
I am not as well versed as alot of the folks here on edrums. I live in a
townhouse, thought these would be a fun toy, used them primarily for
rehearsing here. But, I did take them out on a few private house parties and
had some fun with them. They are a different animal than an acoustic drum
kit, thats for certain. Nonetheless, they are a lot of fun. I used to enjoy
playing with the onboard tunes minus the drummer....Shit, maybe I should get
another kit!
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[Kevin Buffardi]

Also keep in mind that the watt rating isn't necessarily directly correlated
to volume and/or quality. The effeciency of the driver (speaker) in the amp
is at least as important. Ask any guitar gear-head and they'll give you the
idea. And, as in picking most musical equipment, let your ears do the
choosing.

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anything they don't know?"
-Homer Simpson

[Billy D.]

I use a Peavey KB-300 and I think it's awesome.

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[bja...@iwaynet.net]

Billy D. <goog...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> I use a Peavey KB-300 and I think it's awesome.

Personally, I wouldn't even consider anything
under 200 watts unless you are going to drive
headphones or just practice at home. A good
kick sound takes lots of low frequency oomph
and that takes power. Even worse, unlike
a bass guitar, drum sounds are very short
with sharp attack. You need a LOT of headroom
and lots of power behind it. I use my my
bass rig which is 1000 watts, and it's not
exactly over-powered! This is why when playing
edrums in a band, it's best to go to the
PA. That way your are assured of enough power
to cover the venue. A few hundred watts
works in small venues, though. Even
better is a PAIR of them! E-drums sound
better in stereo.

So Yeah a Peavey KB-300 is good. A Pair of
them is better and if you want the ULTIMATE
consider the Carvin KB1015. 500/500 watts.
15"/ 2 8" mids/ tweeter. $900. Even better
add a second speaker cab for stereo. It's
VERY cool. 7 stereo input channels and even
built-in DI to go direct to PA. Check it out.

Benj

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[Sean Conolly]

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I used to run a pair of 18" cabs full range from a 1000W amp, with one cab
on each side of the kit. I also mixed into this enough guitar and bass to
give me a good blend behind the kit without having to rely on the stage
sound coming from the other amps. Worked great as long as I didn't try to
pull in any of the vocal mics.

Sean

[Dik LeDoux]

The correct answer is... As many as you can afford. Just like RAM and
processor speed in computers.

Drum sounds just eat up wattage, and there's some other factor in amps (slew
rate? rise time?) that has to do with how fast an amp generates an output
signal relative to the input signal. Whatever that factor is called, it
affects transient response and drums are probably the instrument that
generates the greatest transient sounds of all.

Now you know just about everything I've ever learned about amp technology.

my .02

dik

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[Pete Pemberton]

>>> What is the best over all number of watts I should look for in a
>> reasonable
>>> keyboard amp for my e-drum kit?
>>> (Need the good bass sound).
>>>
>>> 20 watt? 50 watt? 60 watt?

I would recommend a powered PA speaker, like the JBL EON15 G2. You need the
lows a 15 can provide. Another solution is to go with a
12 inch model for portability and get a powered sub for the big gigs.

PP

[PeriscopeR]

I just picked up a used Barbetta Sona 32 and it's much better than my old
Roland KC500 (anybody looking for a good deal on one?). it still isn't enough
for the detuned kicks I'm using on the ddrums, though. A friend has a Peavey
ED100 (electro drum 100) that he will sell me cheap, and I'll probably use the
two of them.

e

[Michael R. Newman]

it still isn't enough
> for the detuned kicks I'm using on the ddrums, though. A friend has a Peavey

I never got really clean kick until I started using 1200 watts on my
rig.
It's in a rack with two Yamaha EQ's. Yeah it's kind of a bitch to
carry around,
but there's enough power to always have good sound quality.
Even with 1200 watts, sometimes the fans kick on if I'm using a lot of
low toms in combination or ultra low string sounds.

[vince schaefer]

I use two Mackie srm450's. Forget what you heard about needing 15's. Before
this I had the black widow 15's and heavy horns and way more power then
needed, and compared to my Mackie's: they were muddy, and didn't do all
frequencies evenly. These are also biamped which makes for an unfair
comparison. But trust this one thing I need to say: you can't compare 1200
watts using an oldfashioned speaker (unmatched components in system) to the
biamped 450 in each of mine. Go to a store and listen.
I do use one or two subs when needed; but back to my point, you can't
compare old speakers. And the bass from these is just plain better than
before!
By the way, on the subject of needing large speakers for bass: we went
through a period where bass guitar players tried using 18's, and a lot tried
15's through the years.......most use a combination between 10's and 12's
now.
Vince

"Michael R. Newman" <new...@zoomnet.net> wrote in message
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> it still isn't enough
>
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