who's got CANOPUS ZELKOVA snare drums in stock in the US?
"JR" Richley
we discussed the CANPOUS ZELKOVA snare that he had on e bay. during the
course of the nite, i justified the purchase (as usual with most of my gear)
of this snare, and made some rather painful decesions about what gear sell
off to help facilitate this purchase. the first thing i did when i got home
after unloading my kit was get online to do the "buy-it-now" on the auction.
much to my horror, someone beat me to the punch! who's got these in stock
inside the US? i see more practical applications for a 14" diameter drum
(maybe the only thing that lessend the sting of losing that auction) than
the 13", but i'd love to hear opinions from canopus owners. stewart? polis?
schuh? guys...help a slightly depressed brother out...JR
JaKe-Seattle
Subject: Re: Canopus ZELKOVA 6.5x13 - CHEAP!!
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:07:09 -0500
From: CoreCOMM <camp...@core.com>
Organization: ExecPC Internet - Milwaukee, WI
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Sorry, guys - couldn't resist...the Buy it Now was too irresistible...
Bob
Mark Polis
favorite subjects!!!! So why are you depressed? Au contraire, be happy
that you've come to the wise conclusion that you will soon be the owner of
one of the most fantastic sounding snare drums ever produced.
First of all, the guy to talk to for purchasing and facilitating things is
Robert Dotto: rdo...@netexpress.net, who helps to distribute these fine
Japanese masterpieces here in the U.S. He's loaded with information about
these snare drums. They're not available as stocked items from U.S.
dealers - after ordering, they are shipped directly to you from Japan by
Canopus. I believe that the wait time after ordering through Robert is
about four to six weeks, although it seems as if mine came a bit sooner.
There are three models of the hollowed out Zelkova wooden log snare drum:
the 6.5x13, the 5x14 and the 6.5x14. They each come in your choice of one
color - a glossy Ninja Black transparent stain which lets the Zelkova wood
grain show through beautifully - the result is a deep, rich brown color.
The bearing edges are semi-sharp and done at 45° angles. The snare beds are
fairly shallow. The shells have a slight bow or belly to them on the
outside surface, as Canopus has found that this shape withstands the
stresses correctly, and this avoids the cracking which one piece bored out
cylindrical snare drums are otherwise prone to do - to quote Canopus: the
"original global shaped snare drum shell will disperse the given vertical
force along the global surface. Thus, we have achieved the desired outcome;
the hollowed one-piece snare drum shell that is much stronger and more
durable than the existing cylindrical surface of other hollowed one-piece
snare drums."
These drums come with brass tube lugs and chromed die-cast hoops - I had
mine custom done with chromed brass tube lugs, simply because I don't like
brass hardware on anything (except on Ludwig Black Beauties!). The throw
off is a simple adjustable P-85 type with an adjustable butt piece. The
snare wires are Canopus wires, which are a terrific product in and of
themselves. Aesthetically, the drum is very attractive and just reeks of
quality. The craftsmanship is immediately obvious upon even cursory
inspection.
These snare drums sound F-A-T. They have that perfect resonance to them,
and just the right amount of throat over a crisp, super-responsive and
articulate medium wet snare sound. They also have that magical "pop" to
them. They don't choke - ever. They also have an incredible tuning range.
In Robt. Dotto's words, it "...simply satisfies that sound of the perfect
snare drum that I have always had in my head, but have never been able to
achieve from just one drum!". I can second that opinion. My drummer
friends come ever, try these, and are FLOORED by them. If these are ever
entered in the snare drum olympics, everyone else may as well slink on home.
http://www.canopusdrums.com/English/HTML/frameset01-E.html is the website
URL for Canopus products.
http://www.canopusdrums.com/English/HTML/MDReview-E.html#Zelkova is the
Modern Drummer review of these snare drums. There's pictures on the
website.
As for size - I went all out and own all three. (That's where this doctor
day-job of mine really comes in handy. But come on, you don't need to be a
Rockefeller to afford one of these, any more than you would if you decided
to buy a new drum kit - as I've said before, what component of your drum set
should you spend the most money on, if not your snare drum, the nucleus of
your kit? After all, what's more important than what's between your legs,
right?). My personal favorite, if I could only keep one, is the 6.5x14;
but I use the 6.5x13 on my Designers (with a Yamaha Groove Wedge to enable a
nice, resonant rim click). And the 5x14 is a great bebop drum, and probably
the most versatile all-around, all-purpose ax of the three.
So there you have it. Now contact Robert Dotto.
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Soulbelly
>"original global shaped snare drum shell will disperse the given vertical
>force along the global surface. Thus, we have achieved the desired outcome;
>the hollowed one-piece snare drum shell that is much stronger and more
>durable than the existing cylindrical surface of other hollowed one-piece
>snare drums."
"...giving a better relationship between our happiness snare drums and you. it
transforms yourself completely, and giving you happy times."
peace,
nick
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Robert Schuh
You'll NEVER see me pay that much for a drum. My Dunnett Ti is THE best drum I
have ever played bar none, so I would have no need fro one of these either.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Robert Schuh
Buy a Dunnett Ti.
Mark Polis
I have BOTH the Dunnett Ti (same as yours) and the Zelkova's. In all due
respect, you've never even HEARD nor PLAYED a Canopus Zelkova. So what are
you talking about? Huh? Ferchrissakes.
Truth is, they're not comparable. It's apples and oranges. Lookit, I love
my Dunnett Ti. But that's not the issue, is it?
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"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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CoreCOMM
5.5 X 14 or 6.5 X 14). I had just returned these drums to a "very
considerate drummer" who loaned them to me and was regretting not having one
myself. The auction was just a matter of coincidence and a good price.
My apologies.
Bob
CoreCOMM
would not part with either. They are both extremely well made and sound
wonderful. They are completely "different animals". Does that make one
better than the other? In my mind, no. But everyone is entitled to their
opinion, as a drum should fit that drummer's style as well as the tune
they're playing. To think that one snare drum can do it all seems ludicrous
to me. It's the equivalent of asking an artist to use use one brush, one
color and one form of media...
My 2 cents.
Bob
> From: "Mark Polis" <b.d...@suscom.net>
> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Stuart McConaghy
for that matter, through me. I'll let you all know when that'll be the case.
P.S. I have the Zelkova, and the Dunnett Ti is on my shopping list. Every
drummer needs an exceptional wood snare as well as an exceptional metal
snare.
in article 3c933873$0$1604$272e...@news.execpc.com on 16-3-02 7:24 AM,
CoreCOMM at camp...@core.com posted for all the world to see:
> I agree with Mark. I have both the Dunnett Ti and Canopus Zelkova, and
> would not part with either. They are both extremely well made and sound
> wonderful. They are completely "different animals". Does that make one
> better than the other? In my mind, no. But everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, as a drum should fit that drummer's style as well as the tune
> they're playing. To think that one snare drum can do it all seems ludicrous
> to me. It's the equivalent of asking an artist to use use one brush, one
> color and one form of media...
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Bob
>
>> From: "Mark Polis" <b.d...@suscom.net>
>> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
>> Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:54 -0500
>> Subject: Re: who's got CANOPUS ZELKOVA snare drums in stock in the US?
>>
>> Hey Rob,
>> I have BOTH the Dunnett Ti (same as yours) and the Zelkova's. In all due
>> respect, you've never even HEARD nor PLAYED a Canopus Zelkova. So what are
>> you talking about? Huh? Ferchrissakes.
>> Truth is, they're not comparable. It's apples and oranges. Lookit, I love
>> my Dunnett Ti. But that's not the issue, is it?
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>> o-----« Mark Polis b.d...@suscom.net »-----o
Stuart McConaghy - Proud endorser of Canopus Drums
mailto:stuartm...@mac.com
"I think people who can live their life in music are telling the world: 'You
can have my love, you can have my smiles. Forget the bad parts, you don't
need them. Just take the music, the goodness, because it's the very best,'
and it's the part I give most willingly." - George Harrison, 1943-2001
Glenn Dowdy
"Stuart McConaghy" <stuartm...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:B8B8DF38.8CE7%stuartm...@mac.com...
> BTW, in the near future you will be able to buy Zelkova, or anything
Canopus
> for that matter, through me. I'll let you all know when that'll be the
case.
>
> P.S. I have the Zelkova, and the Dunnett Ti is on my shopping list. Every
> drummer needs an exceptional wood snare as well as an exceptional metal
> snare.
>
Custom and my Mapex Phosphor Bronze that I've been able to resist buying a
Dunnett steel, which is the first 'next' snare on my list. What I "need" is
practice.
Glenn D.
Mark Polis
"Stuart McConaghy" <stuartm...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:B8B8DF38.8CE7%stuartm...@mac.com...
> I have the Zelkova, and the Dunnett Ti is on my shopping list. Every
> drummer needs an exceptional wood snare as well as an exceptional metal
> snare.
>
ecnerwaL egroeG
is irrelevant. Drums don't cost as much as other "as good as it gets"
instruments.
Pete Pemberton
"ecnerwaL egroeG" <drum...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:23c6efcc.02031...@posting.google.com...
> You've never played one, have you? How can you form an opinion? price
> is irrelevant. Drums don't cost as much as other "as good as it gets"
> instruments.
Most other 'as good as it gets' instruments aren't subjected to the
potential abuse some drummers dish out, either. To be fair, many drummers
know they bash, and can't see possibly destroying a well heeled drum.
PP
Stuart McConaghy
at b.d...@suscom.net posted for all the world to see:
> Exactly, Stuart. What Canopus drums (kit) do you have?
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>
> "Stuart McConaghy" <stuartm...@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:B8B8DF38.8CE7%stuartm...@mac.com...
>> I have the Zelkova, and the Dunnett Ti is on my shopping list. Every
>> drummer needs an exceptional wood snare as well as an exceptional metal
>> snare.
>>
>> Stuart McConaghy - Proud endorser of Canopus Drums
>> mailto:stuartm...@mac.com
>
>
>
I've got a set with a 20x15" kick, 10"x7" rack tom, 13"x12" and 14"x13"
floors in charcoal oil, with an 18"x14" and a 15"x12" kick on order, as well
as the 13"x6.5" Zelkova and a 13"x6.5" Maple.
Stuart McConaghy - Proud endorser of Canopus Drums
mailto:stuartm...@mac.com
"I think people who can live their life in music are telling the world: 'You
Robert Schuh
I think the key here is that your self righteous sanctimonious bullshit means
NOTHING. You keep commenting on things I say George and all it does is make your
smugness more and more apparent. Tell me George, WHO was it that sat around and
spent countless hours in an obsessive compulsive fit and complied a little diatribe
from Dejanews that NO ONE cared about but you? Talk to wifey about getting some new
meds. Whatever you are taking is not working too well.