Sonor & Pearl Tom Arms-- Same Size?
-MIKE-
Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so. :-)
Who's hardware is?
-MIKE-
Rev. Poindexter incognito
wrote:
Don't got no Pearl, so I can't answer. I've heard they're the same diameter
- but no way to confirm.
FYI - the tom mounts on Force/Force Custom/Force Maple and Sonor
International are Pearl mounts with Sonor wingnuts - if that's any
indication...
RP
Michael Starcher
they're the same.
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were the short-lived German-made maple alternative
to the birch-shelled Force 3000's.
Lucas123
In article <poindexter-ya024080...@news.inetone.net>,
poind...@subgenius.com (Rev. Poindexter incognito) wrote:
> In article <s750in...@news.supernews.com>, "-MIKE-"
<radc...@ohio.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > [Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
> >
> > Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so.
:-)
> >
> > Who's hardware is?
> >
> > -MIKE-
>
> Don't got no Pearl, so I can't answer. I've heard they're the same
diameter
> - but no way to confirm.
>
> FYI - the tom mounts on Force/Force Custom/Force Maple and Sonor
> International are Pearl mounts with Sonor wingnuts - if that's any
> indication...
>
> RP
>
> --
> poind...@subgenius.com
>
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Before you buy.
Tom Betka
>[Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
>
>Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so. :-)
>
>Who's hardware is?
Nope....
Pearl is Pearl...then there's everything else.
I was considering a Pearl rack for the Designers, but found out they
are a unique tubing size. So I am going with Gibralter, or something
else to be determined...
Tom
Jeffrey Speegle
are the same size as Pearl.
The SONOR is smaller.
JWS
-MIKE- wrote:
> [Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
>
> Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so. :-)
>
> Who's hardware is?
>
> -MIKE-
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Pat McDonald
Tom Betka wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:27:51 -0500, "-MIKE-" <radc...@ohio.edu> wrote:
>
> >[Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
> >
> >Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so. :-)
> >
> >Who's hardware is?
>
> Nope....
>
> Pearl is Pearl...then there's everything else.
>
> I was considering a Pearl rack for the Designers, but found out they
> are a unique tubing size. So I am going with Gibralter, or something
> else to be determined...
>
> Tom
Tom,
It's really more like Sonor is Sonor...then there's everything else.
Pearl's tubing for all their rack stuff is the industry standard 7/8"
tubing. I have a couple of Pearl racks and arms and accessories from
all sorts of companies (DW, Gibraltar, Yamaha, Pearl) and they all fit
fine. I have a Sonor kit from the early 60's and the tubing on all the
holders and stands is completely non-compatible. It's German stuff so
it's probably some Metric size. The only way I can use any of the stuff
with my pile of regular hardware is to clamp it with multiclamps that
adjust on both ends. Gibraltar will work but only because their clamps
aren't a fixed diameter hole and can be adjusted to fit the Sonor stuff.
Pat
audrey cawthray
> It's really more like Sonor is Sonor...then there's everything else.
> Pearl's tubing for all their rack stuff is the industry standard 7/8"
> tubing. I have a couple of Pearl racks and arms and accessories from
> all sorts of companies (DW, Gibraltar, Yamaha, Pearl) and they all fit
> fine. I have a Sonor kit from the early 60's and the tubing on all the
> holders and stands is completely non-compatible. It's German stuff so
> it's probably some Metric size. The only way I can use any of the stuff
> with my pile of regular hardware is to clamp it with multiclamps that
> adjust on both ends. Gibraltar will work but only because their clamps
> aren't a fixed diameter hole and can be adjusted to fit the Sonor stuff.
SONOR tom arms are 1/2 inch in diameter.... They ironically are the same
size as many of the budget crap kits you see (Westbury, etc.....).
chris
Michael Starcher
I checked the Pearl arms on my Sonors and the Pearl arms are slightly
larger, so they won't work.
I'm not familiar with the Designer arms, but I am familiar with the tom arms
for Hilites, Phonic and Phonic Plus. The side that slides into the tom is
one size, and the side that mounts on the rack or kick drum mount is
another, much smaller size. I use a Gibraltar rack, but I still had to do
some adapting.
Tama makes a "ratchet arm" type device. It's a straight tube with a tiltable
clamp at the top. It fits the Sonor mount *perfectly*, and also works well
with Gibraltar's rack clamps. Offhand, I don't know the part number, but I'd
be happy to get it for anyone who needs it.
A little side benefit from using these, is that you now have two swivels in
each tom mounting set up, making it very flexible.
Hope this helps!
--
Mike
"The Remainders" - www.remainders.net
MSta...@worldnet.att.net
Pat McDonald <patd...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tom Betka wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:27:51 -0500, "-MIKE-" <radc...@ohio.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >[Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
> > >
> > >Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so. :-)
> > >
> > >Who's hardware is?
> >
> > Nope....
> >
> > Pearl is Pearl...then there's everything else.
> >
> > I was considering a Pearl rack for the Designers, but found out they
> > are a unique tubing size. So I am going with Gibralter, or something
> > else to be determined...
> >
> > Tom
>
> Tom,
>
> It's really more like Sonor is Sonor...then there's everything else.
> Pearl's tubing for all their rack stuff is the industry standard 7/8"
> tubing. I have a couple of Pearl racks and arms and accessories from
> all sorts of companies (DW, Gibraltar, Yamaha, Pearl) and they all fit
> fine. I have a Sonor kit from the early 60's and the tubing on all
the
> holders and stands is completely non-compatible. It's German stuff so
> it's probably some Metric size. The only way I can use any of the stuff
> with my pile of regular hardware is to clamp it with multiclamps that
> adjust on both ends. Gibraltar will work but only because their clamps
> aren't a fixed diameter hole and can be adjusted to fit the Sonor stuff.
>
>
> Pat
>
-MIKE-
They do work great and provide the ultimate flexability.
-MIKE-
Edward W Warshauer
<MStarch...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hiya...
>
> I checked the Pearl arms on my Sonors and the Pearl arms are slightly
> larger, so they won't work.
>
> I'm not familiar with the Designer arms, but I am familiar with the tom arms
> for Hilites, Phonic and Phonic Plus. The side that slides into the tom is
> one size, and the side that mounts on the rack or kick drum mount is
> another, much smaller size. I use a Gibraltar rack, but I still had to do
> some adapting.
>
> Tama makes a "ratchet arm" type device. It's a straight tube with a tiltable
> clamp at the top. It fits the Sonor mount *perfectly*, and also works well
> with Gibraltar's rack clamps. Offhand, I don't know the part number, but I'd
> be happy to get it for anyone who needs it.
>
> A little side benefit from using these, is that you now have two swivels in
> each tom mounting set up, making it very flexible.
>
> Hope this helps!
> --
> Mike
> "The Remainders" - www.remainders.net
> MSta...@worldnet.att.net
>
Mike, if you find that part number please post it.
Thanks
ED W
Michael Starcher
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> Mike, that's hillarious! I thought I was a genious when I figured that
out.
> They do work great and provide the ultimate flexability.
>
> -MIKE-
>
>
Michael Starcher
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Edward W Warshauer <hlu...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <850ij3$9v7$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> , "Michael Starcher"
> <MStarch...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > Hiya...
> >
> > I checked the Pearl arms on my Sonors and the Pearl arms are slightly
> > larger, so they won't work.
> >
> > I'm not familiar with the Designer arms, but I am familiar with the tom
arms
> > for Hilites, Phonic and Phonic Plus. The side that slides into the tom
is
> > one size, and the side that mounts on the rack or kick drum mount is
> > another, much smaller size. I use a Gibraltar rack, but I still had to
do
> > some adapting.
> >
> > Tama makes a "ratchet arm" type device. It's a straight tube with a
tiltable
> > clamp at the top. It fits the Sonor mount *perfectly*, and also works
well
> > with Gibraltar's rack clamps. Offhand, I don't know the part number, but
I'd
> > be happy to get it for anyone who needs it.
> >
> > A little side benefit from using these, is that you now have two swivels
in
> > each tom mounting set up, making it very flexible.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> > --
> > Mike
> > "The Remainders" - www.remainders.net
> > MSta...@worldnet.att.net
> >
Rev. Poindexter
<MStarch...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Tama makes a "ratchet arm" type device. It's a straight tube with a tiltable
> clamp at the top. It fits the Sonor mount *perfectly*, and also works well
> with Gibraltar's rack clamps. Offhand, I don't know the part number, but I'd
> be happy to get it for anyone who needs it.
The Tama 66 multi clamp adjusts down to fit the small end of the Sonor
Z5508c tom arms (AKA Phonic/Signature/etc.). Before I scored an extra
Phonic double tom stand, that's how I mounted my 14" to a Sig cymbal
stand.
I've also gotten the ratchet from a Tama boom arm to work as well, but
it chews up the ribbing on the tom arm a little.
RP
Rev. Poindexter
> Rev., this is nit-picking, but the Force Maples
> were the short-lived German-made maple alternative
> to the birch-shelled Force 3000's.
>
> Lucas123
You're right. I just checked the flyer.
The Force Custom and crappy Sonor International orphans I've got in the
basement use the Pearl holder though. Handy if you want to RIMS mount
them I guess...
RP
Rev. Poindexter
<MStarch...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hiya...
>
> I checked the Pearl arms on my Sonors and the Pearl arms are slightly
> larger, so they won't work.
For those of you wanting to use the Z5508c on a rack:
I recently bought a Phonic tom with an arm that the previous owner
modified for rack use: he took a piece of aluminum stock about 8" long
and 1" in diameter, drilled it to fit the small end of the Sonor arm,
then drilled both to fit a 1/8" spring steel pin to hold them together.
It's very effective for mounting to any rack you have. If someone
needs, I'll trade the one I've got for an unmolested one.
RP
-MIKE-
So, I just combine two of the thick ends at the ratchet and voila. It works
great. Then I wanted to drop the cross arm on the rack to show the drums
more. That's when I discovered the Tama thing. I prefer the Pearl booms
anyway. I use the left over Tama cymbal arms in a rack clamp, coming
straight up from the cross bar for a ride on my right and a crash and splash
on my left. I find many times that a boom is just unnecessary and in the
way.
-MIKE-
Tom Betka
wrote:
> Tom,
>
>It's really more like Sonor is Sonor...then there's everything else.
>Pearl's tubing for all their rack stuff is the industry standard 7/8"
>tubing. I have a couple of Pearl racks and arms and accessories from
>all sorts of companies (DW, Gibraltar, Yamaha, Pearl) and they all fit
>fine. I have a Sonor kit from the early 60's and the tubing on all the
>holders and stands is completely non-compatible. It's German stuff so
>it's probably some Metric size. The only way I can use any of the stuff
>with my pile of regular hardware is to clamp it with multiclamps that
>adjust on both ends. Gibraltar will work but only because their clamps
>aren't a fixed diameter hole and can be adjusted to fit the Sonor stuff.
>
>
>Pat
>
Maybe the Sonor stuff is smaller than most, but the Yamaha & Pearl
holders I have won't interchange... I can use the Pearl holder in the
Yamaha clamps, but not vice versa. I think the Pearl racks only
accomodate Pearl holders, if I am not mistaken. Therefore the only way
to use a Pearl rack is to use Pearl tom arms, and RIMS mount your
drums. That's a bummer as I prefer the Yamaha tom arms to the Pearls.
Also I don't want to put RIMS mounts on the Designers--that would be
sacriligious, and grounds for repeated kicks-in-the-ass by the likes
of Schuh, Polis, Speegle and the Rev... Nevermind the fact that they
would add even *more* weight to an already heavy drum.
Am I mistaken in this??? I haven't owned a Pearl rack for several
years, and I know you have one--so I'm sure you are more up on this
than I.
Tom
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into the clamps of a Pearl rack. They are comprised
of the Designer-specific L-rod and a Force 3000-style
rachet arm. I don't have the exact combo part number in
my head, (they make a short "TA" ratchet arm, and a long
"RA" "rack" ratchet arm.)but if you go to Sonor's (pathetic)
website, check out the Cherry Stain Birch Designer kit;
the 3 toms are mounted to the cymbal stands using the short
versions of these arms (D-TA ?)
(I have a photo of Richard Bailey's Hilite kit mounted on
a Pearl rack using a version of these tom arms.)
In article <387396b7...@n9.supernews.com>,
tcb...@discover-net.net (Tom Betka) wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:27:51 -0500, "-MIKE-" <radc...@ohio.edu> wrote:
>
> >[Lets see how long it takes Scott to answer this one.]
> >
> >Are Sonor and Pearl tom arms the same diameter? I didn't think so.
:-)
> >
> >Who's hardware is?
>
> Nope....
>
> Pearl is Pearl...then there's everything else.
>
> I was considering a Pearl rack for the Designers, but found out they
> are a unique tubing size. So I am going with Gibralter, or something
> else to be determined...
>
> Tom
>
-MIKE-
-MIKE-
Mike C.
No, the Pearl and Sonor tom arms are not the same size, not even close. The
Pearl arms are thicker.
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Representing Paiste & Aquarian world class percussion
-MIKE- <radc...@ohio.edu> wrote in message > [Lets see how long it takes