Part 4
Tom
NEVER surprised at the stupidity of AOLers."
"That is correct MOTHERFUCKER! You have NO right to invade my personal e
with your detritus. This is Usenet, a public forum where ANYTHING goes
as long as laws are not broken. You are right on about me not being a
drum corps freak. I am a real musician who knows about the drums being a
musical instrument. SUCK MY COCK Tommy boy! BTW, I hope they yank your
fucking account too! If you have a problem with a Usenet post, KEEP IT
IN USENET!"
"Butch up punk. Did you also read that they are a zero censorship
service? I DARE your little white weasel ass to write them! A fucking
piano tuner, what a pussy!! Why are you people against the First
Amendment anyway? It is just typical right wing bullshit trying impose
their fucked up religious morality upon the world. Ever heard of a kill
file bitch? I suggest you stick your crucifix in your ass tonight when
you ass fuck some children!!"
Well, enough of that. You get the general idea.
Robert does not call you by your real name anymore if he senses that you
are on to him or once you have caught him in a lie and called him on
it. He adds either -y or -ey or -ie to your name or comes up with a
juvenile taunting nickname for you. He also forgets and does this when
he posts as someone else from an anonymus remailer.
for Mark: "Tell my Marky, Just how did I misspell and misuse this word?"
for Dennis: "Don't even bother responding to Lardo. He has not had a gig
in a decade and won't have any soon either."
For George: "Was this too risqué or should I tone it down? I don't want
Georgy Lawrence forwarding it to Brian Spaun again! :-)"
This is typical of internet bullies, to pose as an authority on a
subject of which he has some knowledge and fabricate a reputation of
authority through volumous posting as justification for the flame wars
that he incites. Rob takes it one step further, though. He goes over the
line into real life, posting lies and slander about people's personal
and professional lives. He espouses free speech and the first amendment
while abusing both.
Rob Schuh also has his supporters, or at least those who forgive his
bullying others as amusing, but it is only lately (September and October
2000) that Rob Schuh turned on even those who tolerated him and gave him
the benfit of the doubt. They are all temporary and short lived. I doubt
that you could find a supporter of Rob's of more than two years. The men
who originated this indictement excused Rob's actions for several years
and tried to befriend him. Here is an email we received from a RMMP
regular who was trying to explain to one of Rob's recently disenchanted
supporters:
>supporter: "...And lately, Rob seems to have been going apeshit on people
for no particular reason."
>Regular "Not true, grasshopper. Rob has very good reasons for "going
apeshit" lately and you would too, if you were in his shoes (no pun
intended).
Consider how you would react if you were posting anonymously for
more than a year, at someone else's emotional expense...laughing all the
while in your sick sense of humor sort of way, and then you were found
out.
Consider how you would feel if you had amassed a "following" of sorts
in rmmp which was made of an equal combination of:
1. People who did not yet know better than to support you or
2. Were so intimidated by your "Internet bullying tactics" that they
did not dare utter a word for fear of incurring your wrath.
...and then this "following" began to crumble when some of the most
credible folks in rmmp began to unveil your ways and your persona for
all to see. There you are, filleted open with all of your inner ugliness
revealed
for all to see. Be fair, (Mr. supporter), for in that situation you
would probably go apeshit, too.
Consider how you would feel if you had not held a job in more than 5
years
and were supported, financially, by your girlfriend.
Consider how you would feel if people came to know that you were almost
40
years of age and had to sell a snare drum to come up with money for
veterinary care for your dog. Most people could have come up with $500
in a pinch when they were 12 years old so imagine the humiliation not to
mention the shadow that casts on your life and the decisions you must
have made over the years?
Consider how you would feel if people started to peel the glamour off of
your one claim to fame, having grown up down the street from John
Medeski. Consider how your low self image would be apparent to all for
you have to still talk about events of 30 years ago, as if they were
yesterday. Imagine having a life wherein nothing more significant
happened in your life for the past 30 years so you have to tell and
retell that same story.
I could go on and on but I think his reaction is quite understandable if
you look at what it happening, his life and his internet facade/persona
is crumbling.
I hope this sheds some light on his recent aberrant behaviour."
Name withheld to protect the innocent. :-)
He seems to have a hard time keeping his friends and enemies straight,
which is probably because it is hard for him to remember what was said
or replied to as an anonymous troll or as himself. This post was
particularly careless where he posts as his own admirer, Tony K.,
claiming to have lurked and occassionally posted over a year in RMMP,
but a dejanews.com archive search shows no posts from such a person
prior to the summer of 2000 when it was posted. "Tony K." also posted in
Misc.Fitness.Weights. What a coincidence! We haven't heard much from
"Tony K." lately :-)
"Mr. Lawrence,
I have been a lurker here for about a year now and have posted a few
times. I happen to know Mr. Schuh. I was first recommended to look for
him in Phoenix when I was moving there. I know the guys in Medeski,
Martin and Wood and asked if they knew any good drummers in Phoenix
because I was going to be commuting back and from to there. All of them,
not just his long time friend Medeski recommended that I check him out.
I actually had heard his name from a quite few people in New York when I
moved there. I have met Robert on about a half dozen occasion now and he
is quite different in person. He is a very humorous guy in person and
does't pull any punches. That part may be similar to here, but he also
is a very warm man to people who he finds to be geniune. I saw him at
one gig sit with a boy who was a drummer who had cancer and spend
another half hour after the gig to let the boy play his drums and have a
good time. While Robert needs no defense, his main asset is that he can
play. No matter what goes on in a message board thing like, really
means litle when we hop our cars and go into real life. I think that
many of us take this too seriously. While I am not much in the know as
to what is correct or not in these news groups, but I think anything
goes here, so you being disgusted or whatever is a reflection upon you
more than anything. I have been slpitting a side here with all these
people, especially you doing this "PLONK" thing as some way of
chastising someone. I find that to be very immature and actually
hypocritcal. That entire preactice entales that there is something
special about your opinion and that you have to show off to everyone. I
do not know much about your age or background, but anyone to take on
such a moniker as "DRUMGURU" has to have some self importance issues.
May I take a shot in the dark and guess that you are 5'7" or
shorter? None of us are perfect and you seem to have a holier than thou
timber to many of your posts. Your opinion here holds no more weight
than mine, so maybe if we all step back and see that we are much less
important to the whole group than we think, then there might be better
understanding.
Thank you
tony k." sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/"
Rob Schuh also fancies himself a comedian.....George Carlin, Sam
Kinnison, Lenny Bruce, etc. It is potty humor at best. Don't quit your
day job, Rob....well, if you had one...you know what I mean! :-)
"I do a thing where I toss a stick high in the air and VERY quickly drop
my pants and catch the stick in my ass. I have a video out now through
Modern Drummer that teaches the technique. It is $49.95. Go to
http://www.moderndrummer.com/. The video is entitled, "Ass Catching Made
Easy."