Heads -- Evans G2 vs. Remo Pinstripe, which resonant for a pinstripe?
Todd
After way too many years of bad head choices for my Slingerland Spirit
series kit....it's time for new heads.
I've never been happy with the tom sounds I've gotten, no matter how
meticulously I work with the tuning. In the past I've used Evans
Hydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in the
early 80's) which were horrible. The original heads were coated
ambassadors...which weren't to my liking either. Currently, I have
Yamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on the
resonant side). They're just dead--no attack to speak of...and it
doesn't help that they're about 4+ years old!
Kits I've played with Pinstripe heads sound _much_ better than my own.
What resonant heads work best with Pinstripes? Through this NG, I've
also been told that Evans Genera G2's with Genera Resonants on the
bottom would do nicely.
I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack...and none of
the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
Could a kind soul with experience with both heads lend some insight?
FWIW, the style of
music I play is a mix of rock (nothing to heavy), classic rock, and
tiny amount of jazz. I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if
that's of any import.
TIA for any further advice!
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Todd
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Dan Radin
>I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if
>that's of any import.
I would recommend Remo PowerStroke 3s, as a single ply will give you more
attack and sensitivity. Go with them top and bottom, or ambassadors on the
bottom. You definately do NOT want two ply or muffled heads on the bottom, as
they will seriously kill projection and body.
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Glenn Dowdy
Todd wrote in message ...
>I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack...and none of
>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
>
>I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if
>that's of any import.
>
From the Evans catalog, the G1/G1 combination gives a "punchy open tone,
lively feel, bright open sustain".
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Robert Schuh
> After way too many years of bad head choices for my Slingerland Spirit
> series kit....it's time for new heads.
>
> I've never been happy with the tom sounds I've gotten, no matter how
> meticulously I work with the tuning. In the past I've used Evans
> Hydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in the
> early 80's) which were horrible. The original heads were coated
> ambassadors...which weren't to my liking either. Currently, I have
> Yamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on the
> resonant side). They're just dead--no attack to speak of...and it
> doesn't help that they're about 4+ years old!
4 years old? That is a definite problem! :-)
> Kits I've played with Pinstripe heads sound _much_ better than my own.
> What resonant heads work best with Pinstripes?
I like either clear ambassadors or clear Dips
> I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack...and none of
> the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
>
> Could a kind soul with experience with both heads lend some insight?
>
I like the pinstripe route and am not an Evans fan at all. This just the
opinion of crazy jazz fucker anyway! :-)
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Dan Rader
>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
Strat turned me onto Aquarian Response 2's for my toms. Sure, they're a buck
or two more than Pinstripes, but they KILL, especially when tuned low. I've
got CS's on the bottom, and the combination on my traditional sized Rogers
toms is damn close to my "dream" sound. However, FINDING them is the hard
part :)
Dan
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strat81
>
>Todd wrote in message ...
>
>>I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack...and none of
>>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
>>
>>I don't need the durability of a 2-ply head if
>>that's of any import.
>>
>
>From the Evans catalog, the G1/G1 combination gives a "punchy open tone,
>lively feel, bright open sustain".
He tried ambassadors and that's pretty much what G1's are.
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strat81
>>I'm looking for a punchy tom sound with snappy attack...and none of
>>the heads I've used have ever given it to me.
>
>Strat turned me onto Aquarian Response 2's for my toms. Sure, they're a buck
>or two more than Pinstripes, but they KILL, especially when tuned low. I've
>got CS's on the bottom, and the combination on my traditional sized Rogers
>toms is damn close to my "dream" sound. However, FINDING them is the hard
>part :)
Gee, that sounds an *awful* lot like my tom setup. ;-)
But yes, Aquarian Response2 kicks ass.
Kcap43
remember this just what I have found. I play with a 11 pc. rock/funk band. I
need LOTS of attack and focus. I am also a endorsee for Evans using a GMS kit.
I have found the Evans Genera G-2 Coated on the batter side with a Genera Clear
G-1 gives a warm attack. The new Evans Hydraulics however give a very fat
focused punch to the drum (still using the clear G-1 on bottom),but I have
found that the hydraulic top heads will need to be changed more often. I have
also installed the May Drum Mic system....which when being put to use sounds
even more fantastic! I personally do not like the Remo pinstripes....they
sound too flat to me. Hope this might help.
Best of luck,
Keith Capsuto
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Leif Madsen
Robert Schuh wrote:
> Todd wrote:
>
> > After way too many years of bad head choices for my Slingerland Spirit
> > series kit....it's time for new heads.
> >
> > I've never been happy with the tom sounds I've gotten, no matter how
> > meticulously I work with the tuning. In the past I've used Evans
> > Hydraulics (this ws back when I was trying to become Neil Peart in the
> > early 80's) which were horrible. The original heads were coated
> > ambassadors...which weren't to my liking either. Currently, I have
> > Yamaha clear single ply batter heads (coated ambassadors on the
> > resonant side). They're just dead--no attack to speak of...and it
> > doesn't help that they're about 4+ years old!
>
> 4 years old? That is a definite problem! :-)
>
> A jazz drummer around here that I know (he's probably about 45-50) has an
> old Ludwig kit that is about 30-40 years old (I think) and he still has
> the ORIGINAL (ludwig made) skins on his toms! His snare has a Remo
> Ambassador Weatherking.. only the second one ever... about 10+ years old.
> Crazy fucker!
Leif Madsen
Spinna wrote:
> > A jazz drummer around here that I know (he's probably about 45-50) has an
> >> old Ludwig kit that is about 30-40 years old (I think) and he still has
> >> the ORIGINAL (ludwig made) skins on his toms! His snare has a Remo
> >> Ambassador Weatherking.. only the second one ever... about 10+ years old.
> >> Crazy fucker!
>
> My Ludwig set is almost 20, and I still use the original resonant luds on all
> the toms. They are still in excellent condition, but I do constantly change
> the batters to experiment (on pinstripes right now). I also have kept the
> original front bass head w/logo, but I put that in a closet for possible later
> resale value for the set.
>
> Ron