Alternative to wing nut on cymbal stands?
Steve V
cymbal, bounce onto the snare drum, then under the most remote location
of the bass drum. What's out there? Anything at the hardware store,
like some kind of clamp?
-Steve
bja...@iwaynet.net
Basically it's two plastic halves with O rings around them. They don't
grip super tight so if you like tight cymbals you need to add some
rubber bands around them. Also only seem to come in one thread so if
they don't fit yours you have to clamp them closed and tap them out
(they are plastic so no biggie).
The main benefit is not only no lost nuts but the MAJOR saving in time
setting up and breaking down. Squeeze, slide, release!
If you are in a more bucks than sense mode, there are some really nice
similar things called "slicknuts" or some such name. Cost an arm and
leg but are aluminum and VERY nice.
Personally I find the Cannon things work just fine if you can locate
some.
Benj
Jay Epstein
are using anything metric.
Jay
On 28 Mar 2005 22:11:30 -0800, "Steve V" <steven...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Grant
and I've used them for the past 7 years no probs. Heres a link to what they
look like, don't know about the availability.
http://sonor-world.com/cgi-sys/Sonor_FE/sonor/english/detail_uebersicht.html?button-kategorie_03-find_kategorien=&a-kategorie_common-sz_CurrentKatLevel=03&ccpb-id=wd74a90dd19582a48a82ed56bfe12bccf5a8624a52c
Grant
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creux
> of the bass drum.
heh.
usually under the pedal or just in front of pedal under the bass drum.
rick
aggravation they've saved me. I know George is a big fan of the Camber
T-Tops, but I haven't actually seen them, except for a crappy picture.
Rick
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Dan Radin
That would be Murphy's Law of Wingnuts: Any wingnut dropped at the drumset
will always fall under the bass drum or to another location that is
unreachable from the drum throne.
BKO
Could you give me a little more information about these Cannon things?
brent
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Sam Savoca
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> Ben,
>
> Could you give me a little more information about these Cannon things?
>
> brent
I think this is what he is talking about. They work great, but I did have
to wear them out a bit before they fit well on the larger cymbal holders.
http://users.erols.com/maxomega/Gretsch1.jpg
I got them from George.
Sam S.
BKO
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Nice kit ;). Can't see the cymbal thingys very well, though. What I liked
about Ben's point was the 'dirt cheap' comment. Are these, in your pic, the
'dirt cheap' kind? If so I'm talkin' to George very soon.
brent
Mark Polis
Fantastic things.
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Sam Savoca
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I can't remember the price at all. I do know they were a good percentage
cheaper than the slicknuts.
Sam S.
BKO
"Sam Savoca" <maxom...@erols.com> wrote
> I can't remember the price at all. I do know they were a good percentage
> cheaper than the slicknuts.
Those slicknets are pricey. I can't see it. Of course when I'm crawling
around the kit, looking for the lost wing nut, I think differently. Even my
lady friend knows not to drop one, or get near me when I have. :)
brent
rick
worth it for me.
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Jim Dwyer
occasion and I have never had a cymbal fall off of the mount. I do use some
laytex tubing slid over the threads so that the felts don't fall off when I
pack up.
Jim
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JWald
http://www.perfectzipper.com/stoppers.htm
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cheap imported drum pedals and parts. I found these at the local
guitar shop (of all places!) Were only a couple of bucks each! I keep
looking for them among Cannon stuff on the net ect. but nobody else
seems to stock them! Must be that guitar players get sick and tired of
the drummer cussing and swearing on his hands and knees looking for
wingnuts and he just hands him one of these!
:)
Benj
Sean Dolan
I have 'em, and love 'em. Saves me a good 2 mins on breakdown time. They're
a little expensive but work great.
Do yourself a solid and also buy the remo Quick lock hi-hat clutch, too.
-S
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slicknut. No worries about losing top felts anymore. They come off with the
slicknut and go back on the same way.
-S
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> I used barrel locks. Dirt cheap.
> http://www.perfectzipper.com/stoppers.htm
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Steve V
Don't they just pry loose with the rocking motion of the cymbal?
-Steve
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JWald
that much. I don't like my cymbals tight to the stand, so they hold the felt
on and give plenty of room for the movement of the cymbal.
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-MIKE-
If you don't mind looking a bit ghetto, go to wal-mart, big lots, dollar
general, etc., and look for those tiny little spring clamps.
http://mikedrums.com/cymbspringclamps.jpg
The sheet metal in the folds grab the threads perfectly, allowing for
tightening and loosening..... and they *do not* come off. I've even
hot-glued some cymbal felts to mine.
Some fit 6mm better and some 8mm better. In my case I found red went
with 8 and yellow with 6.
Talk about dirt cheap-- like 8 or 10 for a buck.
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Steve Turner
> Steve V wrote:
>
>> I'm tired of dropping these things and having them fall onto the
>> cymbal, bounce onto the snare drum, then under the most remote
>> location of the bass drum. What's out there? Anything at the
>> hardware store, like some kind of clamp?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>
> If you don't mind looking a bit ghetto, go to wal-mart, big lots, dollar
> general, etc., and look for those tiny little spring clamps.
>
> http://mikedrums.com/cymbspringclamps.jpg
>
> The sheet metal in the folds grab the threads perfectly, allowing for
> tightening and loosening..... and they *do not* come off. I've even
> hot-glued some cymbal felts to mine.
>
> Some fit 6mm better and some 8mm better. In my case I found red went
> with 8 and yellow with 6.
>
> Talk about dirt cheap-- like 8 or 10 for a buck.
LOL! That's classic. Hey, whatever works, and it probably works better than
all those other high dollar jobbies! :-)
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Steve V
-MIKE- wrote:
> Steve V wrote:
> > I'm tired of dropping these things and having them fall onto the
> > cymbal, bounce onto the snare drum, then under the most remote
> > location of the bass drum. What's out there? Anything at the
> > hardware store, like some kind of clamp?
> >
> > -Steve
> >
>
> If you don't mind looking a bit ghetto, go to wal-mart, big lots,
dollar
> general, etc., and look for those tiny little spring clamps.
>
> http://mikedrums.com/cymbspringclamps.jpg
>
> The sheet metal in the folds grab the threads perfectly, allowing for
> tightening and loosening..... and they *do not* come off. I've even
> hot-glued some cymbal felts to mine.
>
> Some fit 6mm better and some 8mm better. In my case I found red went
> with 8 and yellow with 6.
>
> Talk about dirt cheap-- like 8 or 10 for a buck.
>
>
> -MIKE-
>
That's what I'm talking about.. dirt cheap AND functional. Thanks!
Steve
-MIKE-
>> dollar general, etc., and look for those tiny little spring clamps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://mikedrums.com/cymbspringclamps.jpg
>>
>
> better than all those other high dollar jobbies! :-)
>
I have the slicknuts, too, and I have to say they are worth ever penny
if you're a working drummer. But my small clamps with some hot glued
felts come in a close second.
Certainly someone could outfit their whole kit with them, plus the price
of a hot glue gun, for less than the price of two slicknuts.
Steve Turner
>>> If you don't mind looking a bit ghetto, go to wal-mart, big lots,
>>> dollar general, etc., and look for those tiny little spring clamps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://mikedrums.com/cymbspringclamps.jpg
>>>
>>
>> LOL! That's classic. Hey, whatever works, and it probably works
>> better than all those other high dollar jobbies! :-)
>>
>
>
> I have the slicknuts, too, and I have to say they are worth ever penny
> if you're a working drummer. But my small clamps with some hot glued
> felts come in a close second.
>
> Certainly someone could outfit their whole kit with them, plus the price
> of a hot glue gun, for less than the price of two slicknuts.
Maybe I should spring for a Slicknut just to see how they're put
together. I wonder how hard it would be to make something equivalent...?
Mark Rance
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>>> If you don't mind looking a bit ghetto, go to wal-mart, big lots,
>>
> if you're a working drummer. But my small clamps with some hot glued
> felts come in a close second.
I agree, slicknuts are great and a huge time saver.
-Mark
-MIKE-
> Maybe I should spring for a Slicknut just to see how they're put
> together. I wonder how hard it would be to make something
> equivalent...?
>
They're quite an ingenious little device. It's one of those things you
inspect and say to yourself, "oh, is that all," but would never have
thought of on your own. :-)
I've been messing around with making some of the Sonor versions out of
hardwoods on the lathe. I remember, way back, seeing a "readers input"
blurb in Fine Woodworking in which some clever cabineteer made some
quick-set jig clamps by cutting some round handle knobs in half with an
acute angle on the top. He rubber-banded the bottom to hold the
nut-half together. When you squeeze the top, the nut separates to pull
off quickly. Not something for high tension, but great for just about
everything else.
Stan Mulder
> I'm tired of dropping these things and having them fall onto the cymbal,
> bounce onto the snare drum, then under the most remote location of the
> bass drum. What's out there? Anything at the hardware store, like some
> kind of clamp?
>
> -Steve
If somebody writes an article about all the different types of cymbal
fastener tops with photos I'll post it on the Steve Gadd website.
I've used the Camber tops that George has, Zildjian tops which had a
pivoting "T" on top, and currently I'm trying the Cymbal Crown Quick
Release plastic holders
(http://www.explorersdrums.com/media/cymbal_crown.JPG).
Stan
-MIKE-
> If somebody writes an article about all the different types of cymbal
> fastener tops with photos I'll post it on the Steve Gadd website.
>
Stan, I may take you up on that.
> .....and currently I'm trying the Cymbal Crown Quick
> Release plastic holders
> (http://www.explorersdrums.com/media/cymbal_crown.JPG).
>
> Stan
bigger pic:
http://www.explorersdrums.com/media/cymbal_crown_L.JPG
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Can someone post a picture of the cambers?
-MIKE-
Dan Radin
>>
>> Can someone post a picture of the cambers?
>
> These?
>
> http://www.tabs.no/files/large/161582.jpg
Interesting. Do they rattle as they get older?
Sam Savoca
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> >
> >
>
> These?
>
> http://www.tabs.no/files/large/161582.jpg
>
Those look nice. And those snap on and off? Where can one get those again?
Sam S.
bja...@iwaynet.net
I found a picture of something similar though this guy doesn't say
where he got these either! (guitar shop???!!! :-) But my Cannon
grippers are like this. Not for super-tension but work pretty darn well
and were dirt cheap. The same thing in wood with brass inserts on the
split nut part would be ultra cool!!!!
Check it out.
http://www.xgmidi.co.uk/dr_hard.htm
Benj
George Lawrence
holder and leave it there forever, slip the cymbal over it by holding the
cymbal sideways. You don't take it off so there is nothing to lose. No
moving parts so nothing to break.
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