Signia Marquis
Omen
<nkov...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Does anyone have an opinion in Premier Signia Marquis and how it stacks up
>to the competition. I just bought a 5 piece kit and I really like the sound
>and cosmetics, but due to Premier's lack of advertising and endorsements, I
>have little but my own opinion to go by (which is a little suspect).
>
>Nick
>
>
Yikes....very VERY nice drums!
I must admit, I prefer the rounded short lugs on the Genistas
though...
Damien 'Omen' O;-)
Syzygy, http://www.syzygy.net.au
Nick Kovachi
Robert Schuh
Nick,
Premier has always made nice drums. I think that you have to look and listen to
as many kits as possible. Buying a new kit is a big deal, so don't rush into
something without taking everything into consideration. Check out my sig line as
to what I would recommend to check out! :-)
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Robert Schuh
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their web site in over a year. I'd love to see some of their new stuff, but
they have none up there.
Pity
Jason G. LaRiviere
anywhere on the web!
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In article <89j951$v4e$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, "Nick Kovachi"
Mr M.D. Gardner
In my view, however, they are too expensive - it is near the price of
lower end custom drums, where you have more choices and more options to
obtain your personal sound.
--Signia Marquis I don't think is a very personal sound, not bad - just
not different.
..I know even boys working for premier think the Marquis is
over-priced...and another point...
out of the premier endorsed players - many don't play Marquis, or even
straight signia -they play Genista...possibly because of the lugs...
and Genista are good drums, that are lots, lots, cheaper..(though they
do appear slightly 'jazzy' if you know what I mean, if you care about
image on stage)..
-Matt
Dennis Boxem
Robert Schuh
Are the Genistas Birch? If so, how can ANYONE compete money wise with
Tama's Star CLassic Performers? They are wonderful drums for a great price.
Ian Anderson
"Mr M.D. Gardner" wrote:
> Signia drums are good, if set-up correctly (alot like any set of drums)
>
> In my view, however, they are too expensive -
Compared to what? Lets keep it apples to apples.
>
>
> --Signia Marquis I don't think is a very personal sound, not bad - just
> not different.
Not different? Dude have you ever played them? I strongly suggest a hearing
test. They sound like no other maple drum on the market. I will say as with
any pro line drum the sound is a personal thing but......
>
>
> ..I know even boys working for premier think the Marquis is
> over-priced...and another point...
again , compared to what
>
>
> out of the premier endorsed players - many don't play Marquis, or even
> straight signia -they play Genista...possibly because of the lugs...
Or because they play rock and prefer the deeper tone of the birch shells.
>
>
> and Genista are good drums, that are lots, lots, cheaper..(though they
> do appear slightly 'jazzy' if you know what I mean, if you care about
> image on stage)..
>
> -Matt
BTW. I just recieved a "custom" 8X8 tom in a "custom" ebony finish two
weeks ago.
Nuff said
Ian
Mark Rance
>
> Are the Genistas Birch? If so, how can ANYONE compete money wise with
> Tama's Star CLassic Performers? They are wonderful drums for a great price.
Genistas are definitely birch. I have both a Genista and (much larger) Signia
kit. Although the Signias are my everyday practice kit (and therefore the
sentimental
favorite) I must admit I prefer the sound of the Genistas.
-Mark
Dan Radin
>Tama's Star CLassic Performers? They are wonderful drums for a great price.
How much do the SCP's run? AFAIK Genistas are the biggest bang for the buck.
Not to mention better finishes, better chrome, standard AND power sizes. Then
again, the Tamas have Star cast mounts and cast hoops...
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>Are the Genistas Birch? If so, how can ANYONE compete money wise with
>Tama's Star CLassic Performers? They are wonderful drums for a great price.
>
>
>
>--
>Robert Schuh
>"The Most Trolled Man On The Internet!"
>Stevie, Trane, Jaco, Jimi and Bird are GODS!
>Donate your organs. Save a life.
>Proud Endorser of Spaun Drums
Justin Bailey
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"The road of good intentions is paved with Hell." - Spencer Ante
ThosMeyers
I hate to disagree with you, however the Marquis drums are much less money than
alot of other brands with kits in that category. In lower end custom drums you
usually always end up with a Keller shell..How individual is that? Overpriced
is relative to what ?Genista drums have the exact same shell design only in
birch which we purchase from Finland. The maple is purchased in Wisconsin,
shipped to the UK which is where alot of the cost is incurred.
Also, right now Rod Morgenstein is touring with the Dregs , Scott Phillps with
Creed, Brad Wilk with Rage all with Marquis..
T.Meyers
President
Premier USA
ThosMeyers
At the NAMM show we launched the Artist Birch and Artist Maple series drums
which are very nice quality solid birch or maple shells on rims-type mounts a
substaincially more affordable prices that Performers and other kits...
just FYI
T.Meyers
Premier USA
ThosMeyers
It's true we don't have the ad budgets and massive amounts of endorsements as
some of the other companies..We prefer to offer our product at the best
possible value for the consumer as opposed to giving a ton of gear away and
have you pay for it in the price of your drums... Someone has to pay for it ?
We also prefer to have endorsees that want to play the product for what it is
rather than just "free gear"...
Some of our artists and new players are:
of coure Rod Morgenstein, Virgil Donati, Scott Phillips -Creed, Brad WIlk-Rage,
Ginger Fish-Marilyn Manson, Sam Bryant-Kenny Wayne Sheppard to name a few..
Again thanks for your patronage.
T. Meyers
President
Premier USA
ThosMeyers
FYI we are working on a brand new website with interactive capabilities and
wavs which you will see later this year..
T.Meyers
Cliff Hyslop
Answer a long-lingering question for me:
My first pro-quality kit was a Projector kit - I had that one for almost 7
years and it was great, especially for a 17-yr old kid (which I was at the
time I got it). Maybe my preoccupation with birch began there...who knows?
Anyway, they and the Resonator series were discontinued around 1993-94, but
I saw a kit not too long ago which looked almost exactly like it, from the
single "high tension" lugs down to the DT holder that came on the kick drum.
Is it the same drum with a different name? The "Cabria" or something? I've
always wondered but no one could tell me for sure.
Thanks!
Cliff
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fan_de_ranger
be extremely helpful if you would list the drum sizes available in each
line. It would certainly help me figure out what I want.
Rob
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Ian Anderson
Thanks for responding to this thread It would be great if you could hang around, We
have numerous Manufactures Representatives who contribute to the group. Your
presence here would be most welcome.
Ian Anderson
Dan Radin
>President
>Premier USA
T.-
Good to have you as a member of the group. It's always great to have active
participants from the companies.
Ian Anderson
The Cabria is the new 'entry level" Kit from Premier. Eucaluptus, merranti
shell. they sound really nice with a sound similar to birch, although IMHO quite
a bit drier.
Hope this helps
Cheer's
Ian
Cliff Hyslop wrote:
> Thos,
>
> Answer a long-lingering question for me:
>
> My first pro-quality kit was a Projector kit - I had that one for almost 7
> years and it was great, especially for a 17-yr old kid (which I was at the
> time I got it). Maybe my preoccupation with birch began there...who knows?
> Anyway, they and the Resonator series were discontinued around 1993-94, but
> I saw a kit not too long ago which looked almost exactly like it, from the
> single "high tension" lugs down to the DT holder that came on the kick drum.
>
> Is it the same drum with a different name? The "Cabria" or something? I've
> always wondered but no one could tell me for sure.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cliff
>
> ThosMeyers <thosm...@aol.com> wrote in message
Robert Schuh
Nope,
The Performers are quite a bit less than Spauns. the Star Classic maples cost
more then Spauns.
Robert Schuh
> Robert,
>
> At the NAMM show we launched the Artist Birch and Artist Maple series drums
> which are very nice quality solid birch or maple shells on rims-type mounts a
> substaincially more affordable prices that Performers and other kits...
>
> just FYI
>
> T.Meyers
> Premier USA
Thanks,
It is nice top see another company guy here. Was I incorrect in saying that the
Star Classic Performers were less $ than the Genistas though?
THanks
Cliff Hyslop
more this way.
Cliff
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DANDRUMZ
The kit that you saw was the Cabria kit which is, believe it or not our entry
level series.. it's a lacquer finish on a eucalyptus/poplar shell... The
finishes are quite nice and they sound pretty good relative to their
competition... We offer them in several different configurations... What we
find is that it's a great kit for someone to buy that doesn't want to take
their expensive high end gear out to do a club date...The hi tension one pice
lug we used because it is very recognizable as "Premier" and it wasn't being
used elswhere in the line-up of products..
Tom
DANDRUMZ
Tamas have diecast rims which used to be very popular in the past but in
today's market its a love/hate relationship...We are starting to offer them in
sets as an add-on item for those that want them...
Tom
Robert Schuh
Thanks Tom,
I think that with the popularity of this group, we are going to have more and more
company guys here. I can say personally that I appreciate your input and I am sure
everyone else does too. The only thing you may find out is that some of the other
companies do some RMMP only sales. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean? :-)
Rick
>I hate to disagree with you, however the Marquis drums are much
less money than
>alot of other brands with kits in that category. In lower end
custom drums you
>usually always end up with a Keller shell..How individual is
that?
I'm not getting this comment. Is this to suggest that Premier
are not made with Keller shells? Who does make Premier shells?
fan_de_ranger
"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Tom,
> I think that with the popularity of this group, we are going to have more
and more
> company guys here. I can say personally that I appreciate your input and I
am sure
> everyone else does too. The only thing you may find out is that some of
the other
> companies do some RMMP only sales. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I
mean? :-)
I know that would get a sale from me!
Rob
Ian Anderson
Premier makes Premier shells. Premier drums are all in-house, Including the
majority of their hardware. I believe they recently changed their entry level
(2000 series) to a Taiwan supplier. FYI one of the things that give premier's
top line drums (Genista and Signia lines) their unique sound is the use of
undersized shells. i.e. the steel flesh hoops of the heads never contact the
shell. On my Signias even the tube lugs are isolated from the shell by the use
of hard rubber grommets.
Cheer's
Ian
Aladdin Sane
"endorsement", Rob! :-)
Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Mr M.D. Gardner" wrote:
>
> > Signia drums are good, if set-up correctly (alot like any set of drums)
> >
> > In my view, however, they are too expensive - it is near the price of
> > lower end custom drums, where you have more choices and more options to
> > obtain your personal sound.
> >
> > --Signia Marquis I don't think is a very personal sound, not bad - just
> > not different.
> >
> > ..I know even boys working for premier think the Marquis is
> > over-priced...and another point...
> >
> > out of the premier endorsed players - many don't play Marquis, or even
> > straight signia -they play Genista...possibly because of the lugs...
> >
> > and Genista are good drums, that are lots, lots, cheaper..(though they
> > do appear slightly 'jazzy' if you know what I mean, if you care about
> > image on stage)..
> >
> > -Matt
>
> Are the Genistas Birch? If so, how can ANYONE compete money wise with
> Tama's Star CLassic Performers? They are wonderful drums for a great
price.
>
>
>
Nick Kovachi
fact that everyone else is not playing them, made me purchase these drums.
Having played tympani for years, the undersized head made sense to me.
Thanks, Ian.
Nick
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Chris 'Coz' Costello
>Matt,
>
>I hate to disagree with you, however the Marquis drums are much less money than
>alot of other brands with kits in that category.
I can vouch for that. When I bought my Signias, I A/B'd a bunch
of maple drums, and priced them out for the configuration I wanted.
The Premiers sounded at least as good as the DWs and Yammies, and
were quite a bit cheaper. Plus, I think the mounting system is
better and the finishes are great.
Now, is there a ply/thickness diff between the Signias and the
Signia Marquis? Or is it just the diecast rims?
Later,
COZ
NP: Frank Zappa, _The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life_
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Justin Bailey
that Premier has discontinued the Signia Marquis though. Do they still have
that Walnut finish in Signias?
stuart harvie
the Standard Signia (5 mm 5 Ply) and have reinforcing rings, except the
8inch tom.
Lovely Drums.
Stu.
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Rick
dand...@aol.com (DANDRUMZ) wrote:
>Justin,
>
>We discontinued the Signia not the Signia Marquis...They are
readily available
>in stores.....
>
>regards,
>
>T. Meyers
>
Will this mean expanding the depth availability of the Marquis
drums? right now they're only available in one sort of
compromising depth between deep and standard...
DANDRUMZ
Dan Radin
>available
>in stores.....
Sorry to hear this. What's the reasoning? Are there new lines coming out to
replace them?
Justin Bailey
:)
DANDRUMZ
The reason for discontinuing the Signia was we ended up with 2 series competing
with each other..Marquis had greater sales therefore we opted to stay with it
... In order to keep inventory levels realistic and provide relatively quick
delieveries we offer it in one depth only however you can order a standard or
power depth if you choose to.. It may take 120 days delivery. At NAMM we
launched the Artist Birch and Maple series.. They are solid birch and maple
shelled drums (no filler plys) on our version of rims-type mounts with 2.3mm
steel hoops...The deal is, for this quality kit the price is unbelievable....
Nothing else comes close... Just trying to offer the consumer the best
value,,,,,,,,,, Tom
Dan Radin
> At NAMM we
>launched the Artist Birch and Maple series.. They are solid birch and maple
>shelled drums (no filler plys) on our version of rims-type mounts with 2.3mm
>steel hoops...The deal is, for this quality kit the price is unbelievable....
How do these differ from the Genistas and SMs, then? No plans to discontinue
Genista, I hope! When will we see literature and web info on these?
Mark Talbott
signia anniversary kit ;-)
DANDRUMZ wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> The reason for discontinuing the Signia was we ended up with 2 series competing
> with each other..Marquis had greater sales therefore we opted to stay with it
> ... In order to keep inventory levels realistic and provide relatively quick
> delieveries we offer it in one depth only however you can order a standard or
> power depth if you choose to.. It may take 120 days delivery. At NAMM we
> launched the Artist Birch and Maple series.. They are solid birch and maple
> shelled drums (no filler plys) on our version of rims-type mounts with 2.3mm
> steel hoops...The deal is, for this quality kit the price is unbelievable....
luca...@my-deja.com
What lugs are on these new Artist birch and maple drums?
Are they the XPK or Cabria, or something new?
In article <20000307091146...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
dand...@aol.com (DANDRUMZ) wrote:
> Dan,
>
> The reason for discontinuing the Signia was we ended up with 2 series
competing
> with each other..Marquis had greater sales therefore we opted to stay
with it
> ... In order to keep inventory levels realistic and provide
relatively quick
> delieveries we offer it in one depth only however you can order a
standard or
> power depth if you choose to.. It may take 120 days delivery. At NAMM
we
> launched the Artist Birch and Maple series.. They are solid birch and
maple
> shelled drums (no filler plys) on our version of rims-type mounts
with 2.3mm
> steel hoops...The deal is, for this quality kit the price is
unbelievable....
> Nothing else comes close... Just trying to offer the consumer the best
> value,,,,,,,,,, Tom
>
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Before you buy.
DANDRUMZ
Artist Birch and Maple are using the tiny low mass XPK/Astria lug....
Tom Meyers
DANDRUMZ
You can still special order a 20" bass drum however matching the colour exactly
might be tough..
Tom
DANDRUMZ
Genista and Marquis are still going strong with no plans to discontinue... The
shells are a bit thinner than the Genista and Marquis and are standar diameter
as opposed to being slightly undersized.. Also in the finishing process there
are a few less steps.. Hardly noticeable however less labor intensive..
Tom
Mark Talbott
Not according to Chris in your NJ office. I had all but given up on the idea. Just
how would I go about ordering it? And if I shipped one of my toms to your craftsmen
could they then match the colour?
It really is great having you on board here in rmmp. Thanks!