Another view on the Queen's concert
Tony Kujawa
cymbal, and they showed his goofy looking bald ass more than Phil. Phil was
tight and sounded like Phil. Solid. Brian May is God. I love Clapton, but
May's sound is so identifiable...he is the ultimate arena guitarist.
Totally underrated McCartney's drummer is a reincarnation of Bonzo.
Powerhouse.
Tony
Chris Whealy
Yup! 16 bar cymbal swells get very boring, very quickly.
> McCartney's drummer is a reincarnation of Bonzo.
That would be Abe Laboriel Jr - son of (you guessed it) Abe Laboriel the
bass player. I've seen Abe Sr together with Alex Acuna at the 100 Club
in London, and he's very entertaining, but a bit of a nutcase. He (Abe
Laboriel that is) started leaping around the stage as soon as they
started playing and looked like he was going to take out half the band
and the front row of the audience. When he played a solo, it started
off tight and funky, but then the jumping started again and the solo
turned into a stream of random notes played at random times. Good job
his son doesn't play the drums like that!
Chris
Dan Radin
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> The percussionist guy was very annoying. All he did was rolls on the
> cymbal, and they showed his goofy looking bald ass more than Phil.
Ray Cooper is THA MAN, I don't care what you say!
Glenn Dowdy
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I wonder how many records he's played on?
Glenn D.
Vits
> Ray Cooper is THA MAN, I don't care what you say!
I often wondered who is the American equivalent of Ray Cooper? He sure gets
the high profile gigs and successfully perpetuates the big gong in the back
look. I guess his historical tour with just Elton in the USSR established
him as the ultimate British rock percussionist. He sure gets his share of
air time.
Vits
Stephen Mulholland
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All of them.
Stephen
>
> Glenn D.
>
>
Tony Kujawa
crash cymbal, shake a tamborene, and bang a gong? What a joke.
Tony
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Stephen Mulholland
> I still have no idea who he is. How much talent does it take to roll on a
> crash cymbal, shake a tamborene, and bang a gong? What a joke.
Ray Cooper. Do a search, Tony. Cooper is just about the most in-demand
percussionist out there. Trust me, he can do more than shake a tambourine.
I saw him a few years ago with Elton John. Just Elton and him. Piano and
percussion. He (Cooper) was just superb. Anyone else catch that tour?
Stephen
Tony Kujawa
what he was. I'm just baffled at all of the camera time he was getting and
what little he was doing.
TOny
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Stuart McConaghy
Kujawa at tku...@clappdico.com posted for all the world to see:
What, you mean Ray Cooper did something other than shake his tambourine?
I've never seen him do anything else...
Stuart McConaghy
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David Crigger
tku...@clappdico.com wrote on 6/14/02 7:38 AM:
> I still have no idea who he is. How much talent does it take to roll on a
> crash cymbal, shake a tamborene, and bang a gong? What a joke.
>
> Tony
Some albums Ray Cooper appears on -
America America (1972) Percussion, Bell Tree
America Horse with No Name (1972) Percussion, Bell Tree
America History: Greatest Hits (1975) Percussion
America Highway: 30 Years of America (2000) Percussion
America Definitive America (2001) Percussion
Joan Armatrading Whatever's for Us (1972) Percussion
Joan Armatrading Walk Under Ladders (1981) Percussion
Joan Armatrading Sleight of Hand (1986) Percussion
Long John Baldry Everything Stops for Tea (1972) Percussion
Charlie Fight Dirty (1979) Percussion
Charlie Fight Dirty/Good Morning America (1996) Percussion
Eric Clapton Behind the Sun (1985) Percussion, Bongos, Gong
Eric Clapton Crossroads (1988) Percussion
Eric Clapton 24 Nights (1991)
Eric Clapton Unplugged (1992) Percussion
Eric Clapton Clapton Chronicles: Best of 1981... (1999) Percussion
Eric Clapton Clapton Chronicles: Best of 1981... (2000) Percussion
Eric Clapton Best of Eric Clapton [Import Bonus (2000) Percussion
Eric Clapton Best of Eric Clapton [Japan] (2000) Percussion
Eric Clapton Unplugged/Clapton Chronicles (2001) Percussion
Michael D'Abo Down at Rachel's Place (1972) Percussion
Kiki Dee Kiki Dee (1977) Percussion
Donovan Essence to Essence (1973) Percussion
David Essex Rock On (1973) Percussion
Bryan Ferry In Your Mind (1977) Percussion, Musician
Art Garfunkel Fate for Breakfast (1979) Percussion
Art Garfunkel Scissors Cut (1981) Percussion
David Gilmour About Face (1984) Percussion
George Harrison Dark Horse (1974) Percussion
George Harrison Somewhere in England (1981) Synthesizer, Percussion,
Drums, Keyboards, Engineer, Cover Art Concept
George Harrison Gone Troppo (1982) Synthesizer, Percussion,
Glockenspiel
George Harrison Cloud Nine (1987) Percussion, Drums
George Harrison Best of Dark Horse (1976-1989) (1989) Percussion,
Marimba, Producer
George Harrison/Eric... Live in Japan (1992) Percussion
George Harrison All Things Must Pass [30th... (2001) Tambourine
Nicky Hopkins Tin Man Was a Dreamer (1973) Percussion
INXS Listen Like Thieves (1985) Percussion
Mick Jagger She's the Boss (1985) Percussion
Elton John Madman Across the Water (1971) Percussion, Tambourine
Elton John Honky Chateau (1972) Percussion, Conga
Elton John Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (1973) Percussion, Tambourine
Elton John Caribou (1974) Percussion, Castanets, Conga, Drums, Gong,
Tambourine, Vocals (bckgr), Whistle (Human), Whistle (Instrument), Bells,
Drums (Sn
Elton John Greatest Hits (1974) Tambourine, Bells
Elton John Captain Fantastic & the Brown Dirt (1975) Percussion,
Bongos, Conga, Cymbals, Gong, Tambourine, Triangle, Bells, Shaker, Jawbone,
Bell Tree
Elton John Rock of the Westies (1975) Percussion, Castanets, Conga,
Maraccas, Marimba, Tambourine, Drums (Kettle), Vibraphone, Shaker, Cowbell,
Jawbone,
Elton John Blue Moves (1976) Percussion, Conga, Glockenspiel, Gong,
Marimba, Tambourine, Triangle, Vibraphone, Shaker, Tubular Bells, Finger
Cymbals, Ro
Elton John Here and There (1976) Percussion
Elton John Single Man (1978) Percussion, Conga, Tambourine, Tympani
[Timpani], Vibraphone, Shaker, Rhythm Box, Wind Chimes
Elton John Too Low for Zero (1983) Percussion
Elton John Breaking Hearts (1984) Percussion
Elton John Greatest Hits, Vol. 2 (1986) Gong, Maraccas, Tambourine,
Vibraphone
Elton John Elton John Live in Australia (With (1987) Percussion
Elton John Live in Australia (1987) Percussion
Elton John Reg Strikes Back [US] (1988) Maraccas, Tambourine,
Timbales
Elton John To Be Continued... (1990) Percussion, Conga, Cymbals,
Tambourine, Vibraphone, Shaker
Elton John Greatest Hits, 1976-1986 (1992) Accordion, Vibraphone,
String Arrangements
Elton John Duets (1993) Executive Producer
Elton John Made in England (1995) Percussion
Davey Johnstone Smiling Face (1973) Percussion
Wings Back to the Egg (1979) Percussion
Paul McCartney Press to Play (1986) Musician
Danny McCulloch's Friends Beowulf (1995) Tambourine
Christine McVie Christine McVie (1984) Percussion
Harry Nilsson Son of Schmilsson (1972) Percussion, Tambourine
Harry Nilsson Son of Dracula (1974) Percussion
Harry Nilsson 16 Top Tracks (1988) Percussion
Nigel Olsson Nigel Olsson [1978] (1978) Percussion
Roy Orbison Mystery Girl (1989) Drums
Pink Floyd Final Cut (1983) Percussion
The Rolling Stones It's Only Rock and Roll (1974) Percussion
The Ravi Shankar Project Tana Mana (1987) Marimba
Ravi Shankar In Celebration (1995) Marimba
Ravi Shankar Bridges: Best of Private Music... (2001) Marimba
Carly Simon No Secrets (1972) Percussion, Conga
Carly Simon Best of Carly Simon [Elektra] (1975) Percussion, Conga
Carly Simon Best of Carly Simon [UK] (1998) Percussion, Conga
Ringo Starr Stop and Smell the Roses (1981) Synthesizer, Guitar,
Percussion, Piano, Vocals (bckgr)
Ringo Starr Starr Struck: Best of Ringo Starr, (1989) Synthesizer,
Percussion, Piano, Tambourine, Vocals (bckgr)
Rod Stewart Smiler (1974) Percussion
Rod Stewart Mercury Anthology (1992) Percussion
Sting Soul Cages (1991) Percussion
The Traveling Wilburys Traveling Wilburys, Vol. 1 (1988) Percussion
Rick Wakeman Six Wives of Henry VIII (1973) Percussion
Rick Wakeman Recollections: The Very Best of... (2000) Percussion
Roger Waters Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking (1984) Percussion
Waters, Roger Flickering Flame: The Solo Years,... (2002) Percussion
The Who Magic Bus/My Generation (1974) Percussion
Bill Wyman & the Rhythm... Struttin' Our Stuff (1998) Percussion
Bill Wyman Groovin' (2000) Percussion
Bill Wyman & The Rhythm... Double Bill (2001) Percussion
Original Soundtrack Tommy [Original Soundtrack] (1975) Percussion
Original Soundtrack Bible [Polydor] (1977) Conga, Tambourine
Original Soundtrack Brazil (1985) Music Coordinator
Original Soundtrack Hunting of the Snark (1986) Percussion
Original Soundtrack Raggedy Rawney (1988) Supervisor
Original Soundtrack Fisher King (1991) Producer, Music Consultant
Original Soundtrack 12 Monkeys (1995) Executive Producer
Original Soundtrack Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club... (1998)
Percussion
Original Soundtrack Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (1998) Producer
Original Soundtrack Caravans Percussion
Chris Milillo
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Mike
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>
Probably up around Purdie's REAL numbers. Which is nothing to scoff at.
Glenn Dowdy
> "Glenn Dowdy" <glenn...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > I wonder how many records he's played on?
>
> Probably up around Purdie's REAL numbers. Which is nothing to scoff at.
>
Yeah, see David Crigger's post. At least it puts food on the table.
Glenn D.
Wayne
were a bit excessive that night, but there was only one instance of it, and
the best thing I like about him is his sheer enthusiasm and energy. He
really gets into the music, loves what he does no matter how simple it seems
and anyone like that has my respect. Did you watch him on Clapton's
Unplugged? Brilliant and captivating. Rarely do you see a backup
percussionist demand camera time with his style and presence, and I mean
that in a good way.
By the way, I don't think Abe Laboriel Jr. was all that good. Real heavy
hitter, but lacking a bit of Bonzo's groove and subtlety. Bonzo could have
pulled that set off twice as good with half as much effort. Just my
opinion...
Cheers
Wayne
Soulbelly
>
>Man, Ray is the best percussionist I have ever seen. Yeah, his cymbal rolls
>were a bit excessive that night, but there was only one instance of it, and
>the best thing I like about him is his sheer enthusiasm and energy. He
>really gets into the music, loves what he does no matter how simple it seems
>and anyone like that has my respect. Did you watch him on Clapton's
>Unplugged? Brilliant and captivating. Rarely do you see a backup
>percussionist demand camera time with his style and presence, and I mean
>that in a good way.
>
replace the words "ray cooper" with "giovanni hidalgo" and you've described my
favorite percussionist.
>By the way, I don't think Abe Laboriel Jr. was all that good. Real heavy
>hitter, but lacking a bit of Bonzo's groove and subtlety. Bonzo could have
>pulled that set off twice as good with half as much effort. Just my
>opinion...
>
...and you're certainly entitled to it. as obviously-wrong as it may be. ;-)
peace,
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to do with how big he is. It's as though he is directing. The double bass
stuff you don't hardly notice because you don't see any effort going into
it. I don't think he plays like Bonham at all. He has his own very unique
style and feel. I just watched him a few weeks ago with McCartney here in
Cleveland and he grooved the whole three hour show. I think he's on top as a
rock and roll drummer. Great feel.
--
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Akron, Ohio
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Ed Pierce
>to do with how big he is. It's as though he is directing. The double bass
>stuff you don't hardly notice because you don't see any effort going into
>it. I don't think he plays like Bonham at all. He has his own very unique
>style and feel. I just watched him a few weeks ago with McCartney here in
>Cleveland and he grooved the whole three hour show. I think he's on top as a
>rock and roll drummer. Great feel.
>--
>George Lawrence
I remember when my 12 year old niece was playing me her Hanson CD a few years
ago, and after listening to that "MMMBop" song, I thought "There is no way that
12 year old kid is playing drums on this." It wasn't that the drum part was
technically all that difficult, but that the groove sounded the way a mature
studio pro would play. I ran this theory by a few musicians and they all said,
"Naw, it's probably that kid--he's pretty good, you know!" It wasn't that I
didn't think Zak Hanson was good, I just had severe doubts that he was THIS
good.
A few months later I got a hold of the liner notes to the Hanson CD from my
niece. Of course it credits Zak as the drummer on the album, but in small
print way down in the credits I found this (I paraphrase), "Additional drums:
Abe Laboriel, Jr." Aha, that cleared it up for me!
Ed Pierce
Stuart McConaghy
Ed Pierce at eddyp...@aol.com posted for all the world to see:
The kid plays on their second CD, and he really isn't all that bad. And
remember, he held his own on two or three world tours, I couldn't do that
when I was 12.
Mell Csicsila
<chris....@sap.com> wrote:
>
> bass player. I've seen Abe Sr together with Alex Acuna at the 100 Club
> in London, and he's very entertaining, but a bit of a nutcase. He (Abe
> Laboriel that is) started leaping around the stage as soon as they
> started playing and looked like he was going to take out half the band
> and the front row of the audience. When he played a solo, it started
> off tight and funky, but then the jumping started again and the solo
> turned into a stream of random notes played at random times. Good job
Abe Sr. once came and did a performance with some faculty at Cleveland
State for the students one morning. He did a lot of the same kind of
physical movements, and almost came tumbling down when he accidentally
stepped into his open bass case that was lying on stage.
--
Mell D. Csicsila
email: mcsicsil (AT) kent (DOT) edu
web: http://home.sprintmail.com/~mdcsicsila
Mell Csicsila
wrote:
Hmmm... we know that Emil Richards does a lot of the recording sessions.
Ralph MacDonald, maybe?
TheB
>
I hear he works with Purdie alot....
Anonymous
David Crigger wrote in message ...
>in article aecv2q$6571c$1...@ID-126279.news.dfncis.de, Tony Kujawa at
>tku...@clappdico.com wrote on 6/14/02 7:38 AM:
>
>> I still have no idea who he is. How much talent does it take to roll on a
>> crash cymbal, shake a tamborene, and bang a gong? What a joke.
>>
>> Tony
>
>Some albums Ray Cooper appears on -
[snip more albums than I own !!]
Christ on a bike, that's a lot of CDs. Plenty of royalties, eh ?? :o)
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David Crigger
gu...@anonymous.com wrote on 6/17/02 1:37 AM:
>
> David Crigger wrote in message ...
>> in article aecv2q$6571c$1...@ID-126279.news.dfncis.de, Tony Kujawa at
>> tku...@clappdico.com wrote on 6/14/02 7:38 AM:
>>
>>> I still have no idea who he is. How much talent does it take to roll on a
>>> crash cymbal, shake a tamborene, and bang a gong? What a joke.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>
>> Some albums Ray Cooper appears on -
>
> [snip more albums than I own !!]
>
> Christ on a bike, that's a lot of CDs. Plenty of royalties, eh ?? :o)
>
> --
> Graeme Porter
>
Royalties? Except for the album's he was listed as producer on, if things
in UK are like they are here in the states - then no - probably none.
Again I don't know about the UK, but here sideman on records rarely receive
"points". There is the Phonograph Special Payments Fund for union players,
but that is not tied to the success of any particular project, but reflects
the player's participation in the industry as a whole.
David
>