Vinnie Colaiuta, Terry Bozzio
Pat McDonald
Cell557107 wrote:
> What are some good and intense albums that Vinnie Colaiuta and Terry Bozzio
> play on? I have heard great things about these drummers but have only heard a
> little bit by 'em.
Vinnie-
Allan Holdsworth- "Secrets" It doesn't GET anymore intense than this!
Zappa- "Joes' Garage Acts I,II,& III", "Shut Up N Play Yer Guitar",
"Tinseltown Rebellion"
John Pattitucci- "John Pattitucci", "Sketchbook"
Buell Neidlinger "Big Drum"
Bozzio-
U.K. "Danger Money"
Zappa "Baby Snakes" " Live In New York"
Missing Persons- "Spring Session M"
Those will get you started but there are MANY more....
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Mark Rance
Pat McDonald wrote:
> Bozzio-
> U.K. "Danger Money"
i remember i was in high school when that album came out. i loved it!!
i can second its nomination. i haven't heard it in a decade but from what i
remember
a very young terry bozzio rocks uncontrollably on that one!
-mark
Cell557107
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Chris McMullen
recordings. Don't get me wrong, I love that album. I'm listening to
U.K's first album with Bruford right now...unbeleivable!
Stuff Bozzio really smokes on is:
Brecker Brothers - Heavy Metal BeBop
Bozzio, Levin, Stevens - Black Light Syndrome
Frank Zappa - Bongo Fury
Terry Bozzio - Solo Drum Music I & II
Dan B.
even any sick grooves--am I the only one who feels this way? What's
everybody else's opinion on this disc?
(IMO a great example of the young Terry Bozzio lettin' it all fly
(excellent dbl. bass too) is on the track "The Ocean is the Ultimate
Solution" on Zappa's 'Sleep Dirt' album. (But beware, the rest of the
album is very 'different' from this psycho jam.)
Dave X
>I really thought Vinnie's solo album was crappy--BIG disappointment, not
>even any sick grooves--am I the only one who feels this way? What's
>everybody else's opinion on this disc?
Yeah, I got all excited when I saw this CD at a CD Warehouse. I
listened to it, and then swiftly tossed it back on the rack. I will
tell ya though (as if you guys don't already know), Vinnie is the most
amazing/incredible drummer. I saw him with Allan Holdsworth -- before
I had even heard of him. I remember expressing to a friend there that
Ronnie Montrose's (opening act) drummer sounded good; my friend then
told me "You ain't seen nothin' yet, Vinnie Colaiuta is drumming with
Holdsworth". I was COMPLETLY blown away by him; it was like a
religious experience for me; and at that time I wasn't all that
interested in drums; I was there to see Holdsworth. I wish that that
show could have been recorded onto CD for me; it was an ideal venue
for him to display his talent -- along with other excellent musicians
(Jimmy Johnson was on bass). I have never heard him play like that
since.
As far as Bozzio, I happen to like Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop (this
brings back memories of the Beck/Vaughan tour -- Whew!)
Bozzio, Levin, Stevens - Black Light Syndrome is cool too; I just got
it.
Pat McDonald
Dan B. wrote:
> I really thought Vinnie's solo album was crappy--BIG disappointment, not
> even any sick grooves--am I the only one who feels this way? What's
> everybody else's opinion on this disc?
I didn't even think about including Vinnie's solo CD on my first reply list
but I definitely would add it to the list. Not any sick grooves?
How about "I'm Tweaked", the first one? Jeezis! How much more SICK can
you GET!!? That is an INSANELY twisted time thing. And I'm personally
gonna nominate "Bruce Lee" as one of the top ten most intensely complex
fusion tracks of this century. That is an absolutely mind boggling track!
When I first got the CD, I didn't really get where he was coming from. I
was kind of expecting Zappa/Holdsworth style Vinnie shit. It's not like
that at all. But as I gave it more of a chance and listened carefully I
began to hear ALOT of stuff that is just amazing.
Pat
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Randy Walderman - Wigged Out
Jeff Beal - Three Graces
John Patittucci Solo CD's especially JP, On the Corner and Sketchbook
Frank Zappa - Joe's garage
Buell Niedlinger - Big Drum
For Bozzio try:
Polytown -Self titled with Bozzio, Karn, and Torn
Mark Isham - Castalia. ( His playing is subdued but nonetheless
great)
Zappa, Zappa, Zappa... anything you can get your hands on with
Bozzio... Try for starters Baby Snakes or Shiek Yerbouti
I've got almost everything worthwhile from Bozzio and Colaiuta... The
list could go on... and on....
Doug
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:12:43 -0500, Chris McMullen
<ch...@cameraworld.com> wrote:
>Actually, Bozzio is much more subdued on Danger Money than most other
>recordings. Don't get me wrong, I love that album. I'm listening to
>U.K's first album with Bruford right now...unbeleivable!
>
>Stuff Bozzio really smokes on is:
>Brecker Brothers - Heavy Metal BeBop
>Bozzio, Levin, Stevens - Black Light Syndrome
Kasan19
everyone else in the band (Mike & Randy Brecker, Barry Finnerty, etc.).
Vinnie's solo album is good, but strange. I'd recommend the new Chick Corea
Akoustic Band CD live from Tokyo (Vinnie, Chick and John Patitucci)
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Mark Talbott
doing and finally gave up and figured he took it into pro-tools or some
other editor and chopped it up and spit it back out? Maybe someone else
here knows what the hell he is playing on that track?
btw I really like that entire release. Great stuff.
Mark
Jesse C. Chang
>"I'm Tweaked" is truely insane. I tried to figure out what it was he was
>doing and finally gave up and figured he took it into pro-tools or some
>other editor and chopped it up and spit it back out? Maybe someone else
>here knows what the hell he is playing on that track?
I began transcribing the drum solo, but eventually gave up. Most of the
fills are pretty easy, though the unison part just before the drum solo
is a bit tricky. And here's the infamous beat displacement:
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snare |....O.......O...|...O.......O....|...O.......O....|..O.......O.....|
kick |O.......O.......|O......O.......O|.......O......O.|......O.......O.|
|1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + |1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + |1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + |1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + |
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snare |..O......O......|.O......O.....O.|.....O.......O..|.....O.......O..|
kick |.....O.......O..|.....O......O...|.O.......O......|.O.......O......|
...and of course there is one last "displacement" on the downbeat of the
next measure to put everything back in place. It's not that hard to play
on its own, but it's a major bitch if you're trying to perform it live -
the other musicians usually end up following the displacements, or falling
out of time in their effort to avoid following the displacements.
Jesse
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Secrets, Eric Marienthal's Crossroads, and John Patitucci's Self Intitled.
For Terry try Missing Persons-Spring Session M. I've heard other recordings of
him, but I would have to say that one made the biggest impact on me.
Rene Janssen
NOSPAMd...@hotmail.com (Dave X) wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:39:00 -0500, "Dan B." <dan...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >I really thought Vinnie's solo album was crappy--BIG disappointment, not
> >even any sick grooves--am I the only one who feels this way? What's
> >everybody else's opinion on this disc?
>
> religious experience for me;
Welcome to the church! ;) I was hooked too when first I heard Vinnie, got into
Holdsworth also. Bozzio is one amazing drummer too. I have had the privilegde to
see him perform solo on many occasions. Check out his two new cd's :
"Drawing the Circle" and "Chamber works". This last one is a cd with classic
compositions (played along with sequencer/samples) in the Stravinsky vein. If
you dig "Le sacre du printemps" or work from Edgar Varese you will like this
alot. I have heard that there is a chance that he will perform his chamber works
live! I wonder who the conductor will be Pierre Boulez ;) ? GET THIS CD AND OPEN
YOUR MIND!!!
Back to Vinnie check out :
- The Randy Waldman trio "Wigged Out" .
- Bill Meyers "Images"
- Jeff Beal "Three Graces"
- Wishful Thinking "that was then"
- Jeff Richman "the way in"
- Brandon Fields "Other places". The face on Mars !
> Bozzio, Levin, Stevens - Black Light Syndrome is cool too; I just got
rock solid yes, I have this one too.
I am just hoping to hear some Holdsorth legato over Bozzio's ostinato playing
sometime. Magical almost religious yes...
Regards,
Rene Janssen
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