Pearl SRX Session Custom
Thos
good sound from maple. My usual routeen for mahogony just doesn't cut it.
(Pinstripe on the batter, thin reso., mallet patch and slight plastic inside. I
know it sounds strange -- but it took years of messing with.)
Anyway -- how do I get this sound from this Pearl maple kick ? Right now I have
a pinstripe batter, and a G2 reso. Sounds good if miced and eq'd well, but on
it's own pretty bad. I've messed with a DW maple at the store, and that maple
sound is there too. No attack. Does Pearl make a Birch or Mahogony kick in
vintage fade ?
Erich
Erich
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Thos
I believe. Though it didn't say Evans on it. I think they make heads for maple
pearl kits. I don't want to buy what was already on there. Sound was similar. A
mohogony kick miked with cotton balls over the wind screen.
Wishbone
sounding kick drums I ever owned.
I used a Remo Powerstroke 3 and the Pearl logo head on the front.
It was a cannon. It had tons of attack.
I dont know much about the SRX series though.
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AdamC
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> I had a Pearl Masters Custom (16x22) at one time and it was one of the
best
> sounding kick drums I ever owned.
> I used a Remo Powerstroke 3 and the Pearl logo head on the front.
> It was a cannon. It had tons of attack.
> I dont know much about the SRX series though.
The SRX now called SMX bass drums are almost identical to the Masters
MRX/MSX shells. Both are Pearl's 6 ply maple shells. Pearl's shells happen
to be a bit thicker than most companies with the 4 ply being 5mm, 6 ply
7.5mm, 8 ply 10mm, and 12 ply being 12.5 mm which is equal to OCDP or
Keller's 20 ply shell.
The only differences Pearl states is the grade finish of the maple which
does not affect the tonal properties and the hardware. Pearl's SMX have 8
lugs per side (bass drum), 2.3mm hoops, grade B finish maple, and different
claws from the Masters.
Masters have 10 lugs per side (bass drum), diecast hoops, grade A finish
maple, new claws, and many other minor differences.
You have great drums and tuning will probably be a hard task for you once
again. Tuning nice maple drums after tuning inferior mahogany can be a
difficult but adventurous endeavor. You have to tune mahogany drums either
really high or really low and use 2 ply heads or heads with muffling
mechanisms to achieve a desirable sound. Myself having a Pearl Export to
rehearse with I find I don't have to do any of that. I have a high-end kit
as well for shows and recording.
It might take a while to dial in your maple drums because you are so used to
tuning for crap wood. Once you find those sweet tones of the maple you'll
definitely be pleased with your drums.
Might I suggest any Powerstroke 3 head by Remo such as the Clear Powerstroke
3, Coated, Suede, Renaissance or Smooth White for you batter w/ a falam
slam. For the resonant any of these heads can apply. These heads will also
come with a template to make a port for mic placement in the bass drum and
to increase attack. It's all up to your taste whether you want the port in
the resonant head or not.
These heads are self-muffling heads and some people prefer not to put any
additional muffling inside the bass drum. Once again that is all up to what
you prefer. I put a regular pillow in my drum with my Clear Powerstroke
3/Ebony Powerstroke 3 combo. I have found that gives me the right amount of
punch, attack, and a puff on resonance which just kicks the crap out of you
under a PA or not.
Other bass drum heads worth mentioning...
Aquarian Superkick Series I or II - (I being single ply. II being 2 ply)
Regulator Resonant Heads - (self-mufflingor wide open)
Evans EQ series such as the EQ3 (2 ply) or EQ4 (1 ply)
Evans EQ resonant series - (self-muffling or wide open)
...whatever the Attack equivalent is (I have zero experience with Attack
drumheads)
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your new SRX/SMX drums!
Adam Correia
nick amoroso
>You have great drums and tuning will probably be a hard task for you once
>again. Tuning nice maple drums after tuning inferior mahogany can be a
>difficult but adventurous endeavor.
based on my experience, i don't agree with this at all. if you can tune an
"inferior mahogany" kit well, then you won't really have any problems getting a
quality kit to sing. if you do, then your tuning skill needs more attention
than your kit.
peace,
:nick amoroso:
professional drums and instruction
http://www.nickamoroso.com
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Erich
I have a Maple/Mahogany SRX kit for gigging. I've played the Master's and
they don't sound vastly different... so this Maple vs Mahogany gap... I
don't quite understand.
Other guys have mentioned the Powerstroke 3. Now that they mention it it's
a nice head for that drum too. Just work with the tuning. I go very loose
on the batter side (just enough to get rid of the wiggles and give it a
resonance) and quite a bit tighter on the front side. Use the same method
you would on a snare drum to get the tension even. Dick with it... it'll
work out.
Erich
Frisco
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I'm with you on that one Nick... I find my maple kicks almost tune
themselves compared to trying to find a good sound out of my old
practice kits.
<to adam> plus mahogany DOESN'T mean it's crap wood. I'm too lazy to
look up the original post, but I don't think he ever said his
mahoghany kit was crap luan or anything, just a different type of
shell. Some mahoghany kits are very high end...
Paul
Michael R. Newman
"Thos" <thosp...@aol.compuserve> wrote in message
> (Pinstripe on the batter, thin reso., mallet patch and slight plastic
inside. I
> know it sounds strange -- but it took years of messing with.)
>
> Anyway -- how do I get this sound from this Pearl maple kick ? Right now >
IMHO.......step one is to ditch the pinstripe.
TJ Hertz
AFAIK, standard Pearl heads are usually Remo (Powerstroke maybe? I could be
wrong). You seem to be looking for a kick sound with a bit of attack -
personally, I'd suggest a ported EQ3 reso and an EQ3 or EQ4 batter, with a
cut down Falam Slam pad (the size of the beater), hard beater and *maybe* a
little towel inside the drum. Personally, I prefer Evans to Remo on kick and
toms.
TJ
Tony Kujawa
kind of beater patch. Tune the reso up a bit higher than the batter. It'll
thump and rumble.
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Oh I'm definitely aware that not all mahogany is crap wood. I love some of
the vintage mahogany shells, poplar shells, even some luan stuff sounds good
if the tuning is great. I know the African Mahogany that Pearl uses for the
MHX or the plies in the Masterworks line is of highest quality.
AdamC
AdamC
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Nick,
I have talked to many sources that said tuning a luan or "inferior mahogany"
kit then upgrading to a nice maple kit can be an interesting task. Any
little tricks or ways you had to tune the inferior product to sound nice
doesn't usually apply to maple drums. The maple will be easier to dial in.
Just speaking from sources I have talked to. Some people just have the
ability to tune easier then others.
I find I can tune really well based on my knowledge of music theory and
relatives chord progressions. I'm one of those guys who will tune to a
fundamental note, i.e. A or Eb etc... I know some people think that is just
silly. I'll usually tune my toms either 3rd's, 4th's, or 5th's apart
depending on what I feel like.
AdamC
Thos
>look up the original post, but I don't think he ever said his
>mahoghany kit was crap luan or anything, just a different type of
>shell. Some mahoghany kits are very high end...
The Mahogany I was talking about is a Gretsch Catalina. Not a super high end
drum, but at 18" for the kick, I get quite a sweet sound. My deal is, I am used
the the cheaper wood drums, and the attack they have. This Maple kick really
holds the sound inside. Thicker shells. Pluss, there's there's a wave sound to
it, that takes away the real attack.
Steve S
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> Evans EQ-1 on the batter, EQ-3 NON ported on the front. No muffling, some
> kind of beater patch. Tune the reso up a bit higher than the batter.
It'll
> thump and rumble.
>
>
Tony, don't you mean EQ3 on batter and a black EQ1 on reso with no port?
Not necessarily what I use, but could have sworn this is what you highly
recommend on the SCM? Could be wrong though :)
Steve
Tony Kujawa
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You may be right! I'll have to look at my SC Maples tonight.
Tony Kujawa
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