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Sabian AA/AAX differences

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KllRckStrz

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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what are the basic differences between the Sabian AA and AAX lines? mostly
interested in the crashes. they are both the same price so I was wondering how
the two were different.
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Andre DeMerchant

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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I use a broad selection of AA and AAX crashes of different sizes for everything
from New Country to Rock and from my "ear" point of view I would say that the AA's
have more brilliant energy on a broader tonal spectrum with some overtone ring
and the AAX's have more energy on a specific tonal pitch with less overtone ring.
I like 'em both for the obvious different reasons and both types work well if you
are gigging although you should steer away from anything too thin unless you are
miking fairly close because in loud live situations they will otherwise sound like
big splash cymbals.

"Free advice is worth every cent you paid for it....."

Andre

strat81

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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They sound different. :) Seriously tho, the AAX series is generally a
little darker. There are also fewer AAX models than AA. The AAX has
something called Auto Focus Response. I don't know exactly what it
does but it seems to give the cymbal almost the same sound at any
volume. A friend of mine has an AAX 18" stage crash. It sounds
friggin' great! The AAX 21" Stage Ride will probably be my next
cymbal purchase. Check out www.sabian.com for more info. They have
MP3's of the cymbals in the "Sabian Zone."

Ben Handel

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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The AA's are higher pitched, generally cut more. The AAX are usually a
shorter crash, more focused. i prefer the AAX personally, though they both
are GREAT cymbals.
Ben

Glenn Dowdy

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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KllRckStrz wrote:
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> what are the basic differences between the Sabian AA and AAX lines? mostly
> interested in the crashes. they are both the same price so I was wondering how
> the two were different.
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Funny you should ask. I asked Sabian the same question, and here's the
response I received:

What is the difference between AA and AAX?
Normally a crash cymbal has to be hit with a certain amount of intensity
in order for it to react the way it is supposed to. For instance if you
very lightly hit a n AA Thin crash, it is not going to open up like it
should until you hit it somewhat harder. Also, there is a point at
which the crash sound becomes bad sounding because it is being over
played. Because of the special hammering technology used in the AAX
series, these cymbals react fully at low volumes, but also equally as
well with harder playing. The crash gets louder as the intensity
increases, but the quality of the crash sound is not adversely
affected. This is what is known as the Auto Focus Response. The best
way to demonstrate this is to take an AAX Studio Crash and an AA Thin.
Hit the AAX very lightly. The crash, although very low in volume, does
fully crash. In the case of the AA Thin, if you hit it very lightly,
the crash does not open up, until hit with normal intensity. Then crash
the Studio with repeated increasing intensity and notice how only the
volume increases without the crash sound changing. The AAX are great
for the player who needs crashes that react fully at any volume.

Thanks to Peter Stairs at Sabian.

Glenn Dowdy

strat81

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:11:32 -0800, Glenn Dowdy <glenn...@hp.com>
wrote:

Peter is a nice guy. Also some of the AAX models just sound different
than the AA. I think that the AAX 18" stage crash is an amazing
cymbal. I was at sam ash the other day and they had three of them
there. They all sounded different but not one of them sounded bad.
The consistency of their sound was much better than many Zildjians
that I've played.

KllRckStrz

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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thanks everyone for all the info but I'm not sure if I can afford the AA or AAX
cymbals, how do the Pros compare? is it definetely worth the extra $20 for the
AA or AAX or are they somewhat similar to the Pro line? this would be mainly
for rock music. probably a 16" crash.
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Glenn Dowdy

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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Having recently been in the same situation, I'm going to give you the
same advice I received here, and my experience: if at all possible, go
to a music store and play the cymbals you're interested in. I bought my
first crash mail order, and I hated it. I lost money when I traded it in
at a local store for the one I liked.

Bermuda Schwartz, probably one of the more famous denizen of this group,
uses both AA and Pro series cymbals. If the Pro's are good enough for
him, they'll work for you - if you find one with the sound you like.

Glenn "Another newbie" Dowdy

Andre DeMerchant

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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Go the extra few bucks and buy the AAX, it is perfect for rock and is far superior
to the PRO line. You won't be sorry.....

Andre

KllRckStrz wrote:

> thanks everyone for all the info but I'm not sure if I can afford the AA or AAX
> cymbals, how do the Pros compare? is it definetely worth the extra $20 for the
> AA or AAX or are they somewhat similar to the Pro line? this would be mainly
> for rock music. probably a 16" crash.
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> Jordan
> KllRc...@aol.com


strat81

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Feb 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/2/99
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I have 4 Pro cymbals in my set up: 10" Splash, 16" and 18" regular
crashes, and an 18" chinese. These are high-pitched cymbals like
Zildjian Z Customs. The splash sounds almost identical to my B8
splash (new type). The chinese is wicked, it has a nasty "caannn"
sound to it. The AA and AAX are more "all-around" cymbals and have a
completely different voice than the Pro series. If you play a lot of
rock, hard rock, and metal, look into the pro series.

KllRckStrz

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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so I guess then that the Pro are like the Z customs, AAX and AAs are like the
Zildjian As and A customs, and the hand hammered are like the Zildjian Ks?


>
>I have 4 Pro cymbals in my set up: 10" Splash, 16" and 18" regular
>crashes, and an 18" chinese. These are high-pitched cymbals like
>Zildjian Z Customs. The splash sounds almost identical to my B8
>splash (new type). The chinese is wicked, it has a nasty "caannn"
>sound to it. The AA and AAX are more "all-around" cymbals and have a
>completely different voice than the Pro series. If you play a lot of
>rock, hard rock, and metal, look into the pro series.


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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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i think the pros are much more like the zildjian edge cymbals...

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Searching Bear

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> Glenn Dowdy

Finally someone did their homework! I have heard every answer this side of the sun but this one is the correct one! Thanks
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