Bill Vits
GR Symphony
Jay
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"William Vits" <vi...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> Yes, of course I do - on Wabash. I never saw Maurie Lishon there, I
> think he was before my time, but I did buy a 20" Istanbul there that
> Philly Joe had just traded in (or hocked!) hours before. There are
> fewer & fewer of these old style places around now. Also Ippolito's
> in Manhattan, Jack's in Boston, Roy Harte's Drum City in Hollywood,
> Dahlgren's in my hometown, Minneapolis. The atmosphere in those
> places was heavy with the weight of history & knowledge, quite
> unlike Guitar Center's clerks with delusions of grandeur serving up
> their insolence du jour.
>
> Jay
> "One never knows, do one?" - Fats Waller
>
Jay,
I believe the motto for the Guitar Center boys would be "ignorance du jour" more
so than insolence.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Was it 226 S. Wabash? And was it the 4th floor?
Anyone read "Frank's for the Memory's", the book about the shop and
the Lishon's? I've wondered if it's worth the purchase price. I think
Rebeats is about the only place it's available.
And I think one of the 60's "Ludwig Drummer" mags had a feature piece
on Frank's.
There was a niche in one wall where cymbals were stacked on edge, and you
flipped through them like books in a case. Must have been 500 lb. worth of
Zildjians there.
A friend of mine bought a trap case at Frank's. I can't remember the
salesperson's name but he was a nut. He went to the back froom to get it,
then came rolling back into the shop riding the trap case on his belly with
his arms extended like Superman.
Bill
Jim Fleck <jfl...@oregon.uoregon.edu> wrote in message
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I'm from the New York area so I remember Ippolito's and a couple other small
places when I was much younger and stacks of cymbals and drums laying around
like no big deal, like those old K's. I was more into drums than cymbals back
then, I wish I picked up more K's before they crapped out but I was'nt a big
fan of them at that time. Tastes sure do change I'll tell ya!
Warren Lipman
> I believe the motto for the Guitar Center boys would be "ignorance du jour" more
> so than insolence.
In my experience with Guitar Center it's been the clerks ages [and
thus experience & knowledge, or lack of] that's been the key factor.
I'd purchased small items --sticks & hand held stuff-- from the
younger guys at the GC I go to. But when it came time for a new set &
cymbals, I worked through the 15-20 years older guy: he clearly knew
significantly more about drums and buying/purchasing options than his
juniors there, and I was very satisfied with how everything worked
out: price, contract and follow-up calls.
I continue to purchase through Guitar Center, and through
him.
--
Jim Nevermann
[usual disclaimers]
Hi Warren,
An Istanbul (not a K) and it belonged to Philly Joe Jones. The story
is: in the early '80s when Mehmet and Agop started Istanbul (after
working for Mikael Zildjian at the old K factory), they let Philly
Joe pick out a handful, trying to court him as an endorser. Philly
is playing a gig in Chicago, goes down to Frank's & either trades or
just sells his 20" to them. I walk in a few hours later, play this
thing and have a nervous conniption as I pull out my wallet! I still
have it. It's the first series of Istanbuls with the engraved stamp
reading "Zildjiler" and Philly Joe's signature on the underside of
the bell along with 'Zildjiler'. All the other later Istanbuls are
stamped 'Zilleri', except now the Agops are stamped 'Zildjiler'
again. In my youthful alcoholic days, I drilled one hole in it for a
rivet. This thing sounds great, but I'm much more into thinner
cymbals these days, so I rarely play it any more. It was one of my
main rides when I worked cruise ships for 5 years, so it has a
little verdigris on it from the Caribbean air.
Jay
"Sometimes it takes a long time to sound like yourself."-Miles Davis
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