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"Jeff Gardner" <mmd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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All Bosphorus lines that I have heard offer nice cymbals. Find a dealer
in your area where you can check some out, although you may get better
deals on ebay.
Sounds to me like the Masters will be what you are looking for.
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Harry
"There's a time to live and a time to die. I smoke Elvis Presley's
toenails when I want to get high."
This guy is obviously biased. Bosphorus is making FAR superior cymbals to
Istanbul. Istanbul does not make any cymbals thin enough. NEVER listen to an
endorser to give you the straight poop on an instrument. Whenever there is a
business or economic tie, the word of that person has been compromised. NO
offense to JR, but it is fact.
--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
Jeff,
You should seek out some Bos to tap on. Their dealers are at
http://www.bosphoruscymbal.com/
In general, the Masters are thinner than the Trads and have more
wash, smaller bells, and aren't as loud. They make THE most
delicious flats of all time, which as you know are really perfect in
acoustic piano trio situations. Leon usually (at least with Jacky
Terrason) plays an 18 Sabian Flat - I believe an HH. I used to own
one of those, but much prefer a Bos - it's not as dry as the Sabian.
For those moments with horns, I often use a 22" Bos Trad which has
more carrying power than my Masters.
J.R,
By the way, I do have a fantastic 21" Mel Lewis Istanbul Agop, but
only after a LOT of trading and comparing - honestly, the best of
EIGHT 21" Mels. I was at the Istanbul factory a few years ago, and
have gotten rid of most of what I bought there in favor of Bos or
Spizz.
Jay
trust me...the heritage series (mel lewis) cymbals are DEFIENTLY thin enough
and are killer to boot!. flatter profile, a smaller bell, and low gram
weight...14" hats, 19" crash/ride, 21" ride w/2 rivets...i never thought i'd
take to the 21" (i'm a dedicated 20" ride guy) but it's amazing! the
nostalga series cymbals are in a desireable thickness range for acoustic
playing to moderately amplified situations. besides that u are right. the
line is thicker and heavier. the sultans are thicker and far heavier than
the bosphorus ferit antiques, and i do prefer the bosphorus ferit antiques
to the sultans, i do admit...how's that for honesty? JR
ps...i'll be posting this as well on the newsgroup
"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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trust me...the heritage series (mel lewis) cymbals are DEFIENTLY thin enough
and are killer to boot!. flatter profile, a smaller bell, and low gram
weight...14" hats, 19" crash/ride, 21" ride w/2 rivets...i never thought i'd
take to the 21" (i'm a dedicated 20" ride guy) but it's amazing! the
nostalga series cymbals are in a desireable thickness range for acoustic
playing to moderately amplified situations. besides that u are right. the
line is thicker and heavier. the sultans are thicker and far heavier than
the bosphorus ferit antiques, and i do prefer the bosphorus ferit antiques
to the sultans, i do admit...how's that for honesty? JR
"Robert Schuh" <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Robert Schuh <rsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<3C82B410...@yahoo.com>...
> >
> > This guy is obviously biased. Bosphorus is making FAR superior cymbals to
> > Istanbul. Istanbul does not make any cymbals thin enough. NEVER listen to an
> > endorser to give you the straight poop on an instrument. Whenever there is a
> > business or economic tie, the word of that person has been compromised. NO
> > offense to JR, but it is fact.
Rob,
Just how is he "obviously biased"? Did it occur to you that he might
have pursued his endorsement because he actually liked the product? If
I had a Sonor endorsement, would it somehow "taint" my enjoyment of and
enthusiasm for their drums? I know it's hard to imagine, but just
suppose for a moment everyone doesn't have the same tastes you do.
I don't care for thin ride cymbals myself. I played a set of the Mel
Lewis Signature Series Istanbuls for a few nights. Agops I think. I
found the ride too thin for my taste, but the 16" thin crash and 14"
hats were a dream. I'd have bought them then and there but the moron
who owns the store wants to get RETAIL++ for them. $425 for a 20" ride?
Not a chance. They'll be hanging on his wall for quite some time.
RP
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> This guy is obviously biased. Bosphorus is making FAR superior cymbals to
> Istanbul. Istanbul does not make any cymbals thin enough. NEVER listen to an
> endorser to give you the straight poop on an instrument. Whenever there is a
> business or economic tie, the word of that person has been compromised. NO
> offense to JR, but it is fact.
rob, weren't you an endorser before/are still?
i agree that SOME endorsers could
be lying about the quality of the product because they get it for free. but i'm
sure
that there are plenty of endorsers out there that absolutely love the things they
endorse and would probably play them even if they didn't get them cheap/free.
i think you forgot about those folks.
sorry, i've never played istanbul or bosphorus cymbals mainly because next to
nobody carries them and if they do, its only a select few or the more "poppy"
sounding cymbals.
joe.
I would play Canopus if I weren't endorsing them, like I would only endorse
products that I genuinely like and have good experiences with. I can't
understand those endorsers who'll endorse any random piece of crap, as long
as it gets their names into ads, or a mention on a website.
Stuart McConaghy - Proud endorser of Canopus Drums
mailto:stuartm...@mac.com
"I think people who can live their life in music are telling the world: 'You
can have my love, you can have my smiles. Forget the bad parts, you don't
need them. Just take the music, the goodness, because it's the very best,'
and it's the part I give most willingly." - George Harrison, 1943-2001
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