Wesley Clark/John Conyers
Clark could certainly run Bush's war in Iraq better, as
well as the real war looking for than SOB Bin Ladin.
Gene
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Ben Franklin
--
Bin Ladin is all but captured. The real war in the middle east is with the
governments who cowardly back the terrorists like Bin Ladin. That is who
attacked us on 9/11. Bin Ladin is just a martyr puppet. Making Iraq the
first run up the middle was the right move. We took the war to them and now
the terrorists are showing up like bees to honey, all according to plan.
Syria or Iran are next (even money on that one. Syria would be easier but I
think the WMDs are in Iran), then Saudi Arabia. Our real problem is figuring
out where the next attack on our country is going to be. When that happens,
all the present politics will be out the window and all who opposed the war
will finally realize that they are in it. So says my crystal ball :-)
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
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If this "War" is the right thing to do, how many of your family
members are you encouraging to enlist? Since it's the Right thing to
do, and everything is going "according to Plan", why don't you appoint
yourself as a committee of one to visit the homes of 1500 Dead soldiers
and inform their families how splendidly everything is going.
You don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking
about and are making yourself look like a cretin;
jmt
--
"Come down off the cross, we can use the wood..."
Tom Waits
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
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George I have to respectfully disagree. I firmly believe that in the wake of
9-11 the administration took a hard look at the intractable politics of the
middle east and decided that it was time to simply rearrange the pieces on
the board. Iraq was a logical place to do if want to shake up the countries
we're at odds with and support our friends. No one cared about what happened
to Saddam, but we still needed a little WMD sugar coating on the story to
get everyone to agree to a preemptive war.
The problem of course is that rearranging the pieces doesn't always help
your situation. It's just a crap shoot to see if you can open up more
opportunities to advance your position, and only if you can understand the
opportunities and take the right actions. Frankly I think our strategic
planners are too mired in "group think" to do either. They know a lot more
about we want to hear than what is really happening in the rest of the
world.
Only time will tell if the long term interests of the country were helped or
hindered by this move. My honest prediction is that it will end up being
viewed as a huge blunder that left us in a far worse position in the Middle
East than we started with.
Disclaimer: I supported going into Iraq at the time and I still support GW.
However I think Kerry hit the nail on the head when he said that Iraq was
the wrong war. I'll make another prediction that Iraq is going to reverse
the political pendulum in the next couple of elections. I think the Dems
will hold their own in 2006 and start gaining ground in 2008. Maybe not the
White House, but I could see the Senate going to the Dems. IF they don't
self-destruct, which is always a real possibility when the far left is
controlling the party.
Sean
Due to the profound MisMenstruation of ResidentWanker and his
InaneClownPosse, the US military is stretched so thin it couldn't take a
7-11 in Shreveport. As to the analysis/prediction of military/political
events here on Mirth, you may be the most profound Imbecile I've ever
seen. If there were a Special Olympics for GeoPolitical Retardation,
the Gold Medal would be yours.
and You started this nonsense Boopsie, so stop whining;
jmt
Sean,
I was following your position with interest until you cited Kerry. IMO all
he is is a sloganeer who rides social trends in search of power. The 'wrong
war'? Is there another, better? Or none at all? In either case the phrase
belies his integrity.
brent
--
> Dear Genome;
>
> If this "War" is the right thing to do, how many of your family
> members are you encouraging to enlist? Since it's the Right thing to
> do, and everything is going "according to Plan", why don't you appoint
> yourself as a committee of one to visit the homes of 1500 Dead soldiers
> and inform their families how splendidly everything is going.
> You don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking
> about and are making yourself look like a cretin;
> jmt
Amen!
Sorry, George. I love ya! But, jmt's got "ewe"....
Hehe
;-)
-Sean
--
"Timpani! Take your drums to Brooklyn, play the same volume, you'll be
fine." -Otto Werner Mueller on my "Piannissimo" entrance in a Juilliard
Orchestra Rehearsal, C. 1997
Remove: Spamoff from email address to reply.
I know this wasn't directed at me, but...
Sloganeer???
You know the pot/kettle story...nothing more to say!
Ugh...
At least you're not a "flip-flopper"...
-S
Yes, the war against Bin Laden, which isn't being advanced an inch in Iraq.
We are sucking resources from Bin Laden as fast as Bush can draw down his
political capital. I think the fundamental thinking in the White House is
that OBL is just a product of the long standing problems in the Middle East,
and that the strategic plan is to change the big picture and not to focus on
the one individual. IMHO this underestimates the impact that a charismatic
person can have at the right moment in the right place. (Why do I suddenly
hear "Cult of Personality"?)
Make no mistake, I was not a fan of Kerry by any means which is why I didn't
vote for him. Pointing out what's wrong over there doesn't make you right
over here. Besides, riding social trends in search of power is the
fundamental mission of both parties. It helps to remember that both parties
view the opposition as the biggest threat to America, more so than
terrorists or rogue nations. America is still a surprisingly insular
country, so it should be no surprise that we feel our biggest threats are
here at home.
Sean
I thought Kerry was spineless, bland, disgusting, and not that far off
from Bush when it comes to his stance on the issues... wait, why did I
vote for him, again? I loved how the Republicans tried to paint him
as a radical, when there were barely any differences.
Perry
> news flash.... the invasion was planned before 9-11. or did you
> overlook that like the rest of the country?
I remember that. But you're right, a lot of people seem to forget how
Clinton first proposed and planned the invasion of Iraq.
So you actually believe the plan was to invade Iraq, not because it was a
threat to us, but really a ruse to get every terrorist on the planet to try
to blow up our army in Iraq?
Why didn't Bush just say so? I'm sure the American people
would have gone along with that plan.
Gene
--
"Hydrogen isn't the most common
element in the Universe, stupidity is."
Frank Zappa
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jmt,
I wish I could accept Kerry's award as it stands, but I have reservations
about the circumstances under which he got it (them?). Yes, he volunteered
to go to war, and I credit him with that (I volunteered too), but I'm not
persuaded that he did not have strings pulled to get out as quickly as he
could. I try to keep an open mind about all things VN, but I don't presume
on the veracity of anything that war wrought: Military records included
(hey I didn't get any special medals, and of course I earned several :).
The 'social idiot' remark goes to a different subject. Believe me, I'd like
to think Democrat if only to try to balance the political color of Utah
(it's a subject always up for discussion around here as to why Mormon's
rarely vote anything but Repub), but even that desire couldn't make me want
Kerry as a commander.
brent
Well, thanks for that last. But I'm not sure what you're getting at with
the earlier. Are you suggesting that I am a sloganeer? Or, if not, then
who is the 'kettle' to whom you refer?
brent
> > I was following your position with interest until you cited Kerry. IMO
> all
> > he is is a sloganeer who rides social trends in search of power. The
> 'wrong
> > war'? Is there another, better? Or none at all? In either case the
> phrase
> > belies his integrity.
>
> Yes, the war against Bin Laden, which isn't being advanced an inch in
Iraq.
> We are sucking resources from Bin Laden as fast as Bush can draw down his
> political capital. I think the fundamental thinking in the White House is
> that OBL is just a product of the long standing problems in the Middle
East,
> and that the strategic plan is to change the big picture and not to focus
on
> the one individual. IMHO this underestimates the impact that a charismatic
> person can have at the right moment in the right place. (Why do I suddenly
> hear "Cult of Personality"?)
We were already 'at war' with Iraq when BL shot his bolt. The rest of your
points I tend to agree with.
brent
Oh, and some more facts. Numbers lost in other battles in one day?
5,000 at Antietam. 3,000 on D-Day. 19,000 at the Battle of the Bulge
(a few days, me thinks). I'd say Iraq is going swimmingly! And if you
ask 1500 families about their "dead soldier", I bet 1400 will say it
was worth it. No need to ask the other 100. We've already heard from
them......and only them....screaming, crying, waving pics and shouting
"George Bush killed my son!!!" on the news and in the paper.
And for the record, it wasn't an illegal war anymore than Clinton's
bombing civilians in Belgrade, going after Milosevic without UN
Approval and all that nonesense we (well, you not I) forgot about.
I await your pithy slam, formatted so funkily, assigning me an alias
with asterisks and quotes and all that bull-shizzle, fo nizzle. .
Cheerio,
David
No, I'm pretty sure it's Cheney's and Rumsfeld's war. Remember the past
republican administrations that were buddies with Saddam and would go to
Baghdad just to hang out with Saddam?
DC & DR: Hey, buddy!
SH: Hello Americans!
DC & DR: Hey man, you you need anything? Missiles? Tanks?
SH: Oh, that'd be great!!
DC & DR: Consider it done.
During that time Reagan got OPEC to agree to the Petro-dollar, meaning
everywhere around the word, oil would only be sold in USD, even if
France was selling to Malaysia, it'd be in USD.
So one day our *buddy* Saddam sold oil to the French in Euros.
[gasp] He was disloyal to the FRAT!!!
Time to go to war...quick, make some shit up!
[I think we all know the rest from here.]
This war is a personal vendetta, and it's supporter would make me laugh
if the notion of such an ignorant populace of the world's freest country
with the most access to information didn't scare the crap out of me.
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.underthecouch.org
.:you may want to fix my email
address before you send anything:.
Lately you have been resorting to name calling and personal attacks. You
call me an imbecile. You call the Republican party nazis. When a person has
no statement to make as to why his side of the argument is right then he
basically has nothing to say; a person who is only angry because he can't
support his position. If you are going to debate , come up with a thoughtful
statement, not juvenile name calling or personal attacks. This is what lost
your party the election last year.
The Bush adminstration took a whole country and is now mopping up the
terrorists who show up late to the party as expected. This is obvious. The
death count is incredibly low compared to other wars. This will prove to be
one of the quickest and most successful wars the U.S. has ever fought
Do I think this war is right? NO. No war is not morally right . They are
only inevitable and necessary. Some are unnecessary but not this one. It has
been the tactic of the liberals to paint the supporters of this war as "baby
killers and "war mongers". Again, this is what lost your party the election
last year because the common man can see that this war was inevitable. No
conservative who supports this war thinks that war is morally right. They
know we were attacked and responded in kind at those who would attack again.
If a democrat had been in office the response whould have been the same
EXCEPT he would have waited a year later until another attack and it would
have cost us more lives. We are lucky we had someone in the office with the
balls to attack immediately.
Now respond to the the points I stated or shut the fuck up with the junior
high name calling. I'll be glad to consider your logical statements if you
make any.
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
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I think we were mostly using Iraq as a good excuse to keep a strong force
close to one of key national interests, which is what OBL claims started his
crusade against America. Now we can move those forces next door for the next
couple of decades and relieve some pressure on the Saudi royal family.
Man, I must really sound cynical, but age has way of doing that to you.
Sean
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George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
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As was the invasion of North Korea and the defense of Taiwan, although plans
haven't been needed yet. It's called "continguancy planning", and it's been
practiced by every administration since Roosevelt. You need to think about
the "what if" before the shit hits the fan. No nefarious motives required.
Sean
It is hard for me to understand why Democrats can't see the big picture.
That 9/11 was the start of a world war.
--
George Lawrence
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"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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> Dear Genome;
>
> If this "War" is the right thing to do, how many of your family
> members are you encouraging to enlist? Since it's the Right thing to
> do, and everything is going "according to Plan", why don't you appoint
> yourself as a committee of one to visit the homes of 1500 Dead soldiers
> and inform their families how splendidly everything is going.
> You don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking
> about and are making yourself look like a cretin;
> jmt
>
> George Lawrence wrote:
> > It's not Bush's war. It is the whole country's war. Even John Kerry's.
This is just true to their respective forms. Dems have always wished that
world problems would just go away instead of getting involved. However, to
see a Republican example if this kind of strategy, one only has to look at
the proposed amendments re: flag burning and gay marriage. No one is ever
going to convince me that anyone in the administration really feels that
either of these issues are -that- important. It's just a way to try to draw
out the Dems into unpopular public positions, whether or not the amendments
ever gain any traction.
My point is that both parties routinely compromise National and Public
interest in pursuit of issues whose only purpose is to discredit the other
party. Some may be motiviated purely by power, but I think a majority pursue
this because deep down they feel that the other side is actually a bigger
threat to the country. The far right fears that the far left wants to lead
us to communism (not unfounded if you consider the eternal Democrat interest
in "income redistribution"). The far left feels that the far right is taking
us to fascism (also not unfounded if you look at the continuing interest in
sacrificing our rights to win the war on communism / drugs / terroism, etc.
For some reason we keep finding ourselves in a crisis that demands us to
give up some part of the Bill of Rights).
Moderates are especially loathed by both sides, which you can see in every
primary election campaign; the moderate candidates are always the first ones
to get squeezed out by the political machines.
Anyway, these are all just my opinions and I may very well be full of shit.
It wouldn't be the first time.
Sean
Fortunately for God/Darwin/Ape/ and the remainder of the
SemiSentient Beings of the Universe, E W E don't get to make the rules
Here.(Actually, there Are no rules, which; imnsho, is a v e r y good
Rule). From your Blatant whining, it is Obvious Why ewe find the
Crypto-Soliloquies of Aynthrax Rand(RussianCryptoNaziCunt/Dumbass) so
enthralling. Her deep and profound message of,"I'm Right because I said
so, and anyone who says I'm not is a great big Poopie head and even if
I'm Wrong I'm Right and you better STFU right now mister or I will
scream to HighWhollyHell for my Mommie and stuff so There and did I
mention I'm right and Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" would fit right in with
your stirring Speeches and random babbling of the PartyLine. Of course,
in fairness to Ms.Rand, she was a Profound Inspiration to the likes of
Nick Dixon(37thPrezUS/Burglar), Charlie Manson, Ted Bundy, and was, of
couse, Unanimous choice for National PosterGirl for the
SheepleForTheEthicalTreatmentOfTheButt-Ugly).
But E n o u g h about E W E......
On the sad day when Wild Bill left Orifice, untold thousands
of "Mucans(and others) worldwide were still A l i v e, the
WorldApeCenter was still standing, 'Murca still had a Constitution, the
Econ was thriving, the Birds were singing, and Sheeple were
Happy...('Cept for the RCoNazis fo course, but as St.Charles Stuart
Parnell remarked in his III Epistle to Jolly Old Queen Vickie and the
Lards of (alleged) Parliament(a bunch of goons whose sole raison d'etre
is to Lick the Queen's inbred genitals), "Ewe just C a n ' t please
everybody goddammit".
A n d, lest we forget, E w e were an Obnoxious little
JackassBastard Then and Now;
jmt
Damn right Pookie, Rcons are willing to Fight to the last drop of
Somebody Else's Blood.
Uncle Yosemite Sam wants E w e*;
jmt
*Of course, e w e had 'Other Priorites**'
**Duck 'Che' Cheney, Champion of Freedom(for Exxon and Oligarchic
Dictarorships everywhere)
--
How quaint.
Psssst, Pay attention, Georgia, this is really
informative:
Your "buddies" don't decide who is awarded Military
Decorations/Citations etc. However, if they E v e r give one out for
talking unmitigated H o r s e s h i t, ewe'll get a Great Big One,
probably suitable for framing and shit.
Btw, if you get any S t u p i d e r, your gloved ones may have
to opt for a PreEmptive Lobotomy from the Rear.
Use Camouflage/Cover A N D Comcealment and Hope for the
best, Buddy; I'm pullin for ya;
jmt
In the words of David Cross (and the immortal Bill Hicks): "I'm not saying
all Republicans are racist, sexist homophobes, just the people they elect
into office to represent them."
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Right again, Poodles, every Professor is Wrong, and little ol' E W
E is right.
Still think that Russia W o n WWII? (Of course ewe gotta admire
the old tried and true,(and O n l y) Russian Military Tactic of Running
like Hell full speed in the general direction of the Pacific Ocean until
the Enemy freezes to death in the Snow.
Your Name, (well, One of them), henceforth and to wit, shall be:
M r. H i s t o r y
With your vast and limitless knowledge of World,(and no doubt, C o s
m i c) Historical Data, you're no doubt aware that Sweden, (yes
motherfucking S w e d e n) kicked the living shit our of Russia, on a
running basis, for 20 f u c k i n g Y e a r s? Beat em like an old
piece of meat.(something you're undoubtedly familiar with) F i n l a n
d kicked their asses. Under Freddie the (NotSo)Great, a small German
Principality,(relatively speaking) kicked them so far West the Russian
Army had to learn a different language in order to find someone who
understand their Surrendering...
You want m o r e, don'tcha Boomer;
jmt
--
Good call George. We wouldn't want to listen to any
dumb ol' college proffesors now, would we?
Gene
--
"Hydrogen isn't the most common
element in the Universe, stupidity is."
Frank Zappa
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HolyMotherFuckingShit. You've been to some funerals. What
an incredible sacrifice on your part.
That's it, I'm recommeding E w e for the Congressinal Meddle
of Honor;
jmt(sssssssssssssssaluuuuute)
M o t h e r f u c k i n g B I N G O
dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding......
you win buddy; nailed it, First prize, all
that shit;
jmt
JDiddy wrote:
> There are no electable Democratic candidates because they all run like
> little pussies everytime they're pushed or confronted with a bald-faced lie.
> Which prominent Democratic leaders stood up and demanded legitmate, public
> answers for the facts revealed in the Downing Street memo (which provided
> evidence that the Republican administration "fixed facts to the policy" and
> forged all of the bullshit reasons that led up to the Iraq War)? Only
> Conyers, and he couldn't get it printed ahead of page 10. What have the
> Democratic leaders done to gouge Rove after his disgusting comments about
> "offering the enemy therapy" last week? None of them, because they're
> cowards. Did any Dems stand up and admonish the administration for awarding
> Halliburton ANOTHER contract last week to renovate Guantanamo? I mean, how
> the FUCK does a crooked organization like Halliburton get ANOTHER F'ing
> contract? What the hell is wrong with these chickens? Why don't they fight
> back? Pussies.
>
> In the words of David Cross (and the immortal Bill Hicks): "I'm not saying
> all Republicans are racist, sexist homophobes, just the people they elect
> into office to represent them."
>
>
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Goddam R i g h t again Puddles,
As we type, my little Hacienda is being surrounded by platoons of
Iraqi Troops. You know, we'd have a r e a l l y nice little village if
it weren't for those pesky Iragis who keep invading and invading and
invading and bringing down our property values and wanting to marry our
daughters and wanting to ride in the front of the bus and shit. You
just can't walk down the street in 'Murca(this great land of
ours)without bumpin into a whole shitload of goddam Iraqis taking up all
the good shit until there's nuthin left for us Real
'Murcans,(nudgenudgewinkwink)...
Outta be a goddam law;
jmt
--
JDiddy wrote:> Did any Dems stand up and admonish the administration
for >awarding
I wish we did have a Dem. who was brave enough to go ahead and expose
these guys for what they are. Rich guys making millions off the backs
of poor ( and getting poorer) Americans.
> Halliburton ANOTHER contract last week to renovate Guantanamo? I mean, how
> the FUCK does a crooked organization like Halliburton get ANOTHER F'ing
> contract? > >
People are asking the White House about an exit strategy.
Halliburton is the one with the strategy. They control how long this
gravy train for the rich rolls on. No soldiers come home until the
bottom line is right for all the investors.
#1. When did ewe enlist?
#2. Who the fuck are ewe?
Best wishes and watch out for Israelites w/slingshots;
jmt
--
If Halle Berry married Tim Burton she'd take a lot of shit 'bout
her name, eh?
Are you daring to say that this Horeshit "War" is all
about $$$???
I am truly shocked/saddened.
PS: Better not let M r. H i s t o r y hear you say that; he saaaays
that it's about Freedom and Democracy(concepts he truly believes in for
everyone 'cept 'Murcans.)
y'r pal Everybody's All 'Murcan Ape;
jmt
--
> Dear GeorgeOfTheBungle;
>
> Due to the profound MisMenstruation of ResidentWanker and his
> InaneClownPosse, the US military is stretched so thin it couldn't take a
> 7-11 in Shreveport. As to the analysis/prediction of military/political
> events here on Mirth, you may be the most profound Imbecile I've ever
> seen. If there were a Special Olympics for GeoPolitical Retardation,
> the Gold Medal would be yours.
>
> and You started this nonsense Boopsie, so stop whining;
> jmt
>
I've been following this one and am not about to get sucked into it beyond
what I'm about to type....
I'm a little surprised at you jmt. Not because of your views or because
of your obvious distaste for the war. I agree with alot of what you say.
I truly do. But I've seen the other side of the coin in person and the
points are valid on that side as well.
What surprises me is your statement...."ask the families of the 1500 dead
soldiers how well they think it's going." or something to that effect.
I really thought you were above biting such an obvious bait. That's a
sound bite that brain dead, Nashvillian booger eaters would jump on.
You're better than that. Nobody is in Iraq because they were picked out
of a hat and sent their against their will. Contrary to most liberal
belief, military enlistees are there because they want to be there.
I think the issue that most Dems are latching onto is that for the majority
of their lives, the military has been a haven for the less fortunate.
It's a place where low income guys with no discernible future to look forward
to could go, get some disciplined training in a craft of some type, get some
sweet retirement and medical benefits and even get college paid for to boot.
It's been the same for all of my life...join up, do your time, get some
skills, learn responsibility (you useless teenage know-it-all punk) and get
out unscathed.
The Dems seem to forget the basic fact that IF some military conflict arises
FOR WHATEVER REASON, those very underpriveleged kids who VOLUNTEERED because
it seemed like a sweet deal at the time, will have to go and fight and put
themselves in harm's way. I'm not about to jump into the fray and try
to convince anyone here that the reason we're involved in said conflict is
right or wrong. All I'm gonna do is remind folks that those kids have all
taken a gamble. Unfortunately, the ones who enlisted within the last few
years are going to have to do some REAL fighting and not simulated this time.
Those are the breaks, folks. If you don't agree, re-read the fine
print.
Don't even begin to assume that I'm saying that callously with no regard for
the lives of our soldiers. Not at all, so don't even go there. NOBODY
wants to see young men and women die. Ever. And when you consider that
even though we've had 1500 + casualties, we lost more than that in one
afternoon on Omaha Beach! 1500 is not a bad record considering the enemy
we're up against. Technology and training have saved COUNTLESS lives
already and will save more. I honestly feel for every parent who's lost a
child in Iraq. But I've also been there, spoken to the soldiers and NOT A
SINGLE ONE OF THEM I've spoken to regrets being there or is scared that
he/she might be next. They ALL know they have a job to do. Whether they
want to or not, they get up every day and do their duty. They do the best
they can to make it home alive every day. And they watch each other's
backs to make sure everyone who goes out, comes back.
They are truly some of the most noble, strongest, dedicated and unwavering
people I've ever had the pleasure to meet. And they are the best trained
fighting force on the face of the Earth. Trust me. We got some BADASS
muthafuckas over there just chomping at the bit to take care of business.
If the fucking politcians would get the fuck out of the way and let them do
it, this whole fiasco would be over in no time. They'd have Bin Laden's
balls hanging on a necklace in a month. We all want them to come home.
They all want to come home. But they volunteered to be there and they want
to do their jobs.
John, I respect you and happen to think you're one of the funniest sumbitches
on Earth. And I agree with you on alot of points. Believe that. But
spouting some tired, rehashed, biased bullshit is just not something I
thought you'd resort to. Come on man! You're WAY too smart for that
shit.
BTW-
I still love you , man.
; )
Pat
--
#1. I didn't. I'm a chickenhawk
#2. What the fug do you care?
Your chickenhawk argument or whatever you were trying to say by
questioning my service is so 1988. FDR sat in a wheelchair and
Lincoln, though he served 90 days, hardly had the hands-on experience
to committ the North to war, right? Clinton? Ditto. So what's your
point? Nice try, though. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..............
I grew up thinking that truly good ideals don't need lies and deceit to
support them. As I got older I found that almost every organized group
pursuing an agenda will dip into the bucket-o-lies if they think it'll help
further the cause. I still believe that being a realist and an idealist are
not mutually exclusive. Just because we have to accept the crap that goes on
doesn't mean that we have to let it change who we are.
Sean
Actually I think the Russians were quite capable of running over all of
Europe if we hadn't met them in the middle. They got off to a bad start but
once Stalin put Gen. Zhukov in charge he pretty much ground down the Germans
from the outskirts of Moscow all the way to Berlin. It's certainly not a
popular view in this country, but I still believe Zhukov was the greatest
general of the war on any side.
Sean
While I'm still in the mood, you mentioned,"If the fucking
politcians would get the fuck out of the way and let them do
it, this whole fiasco would be over in no time."
The old "We're not losing the war, crooked politicians won't let
us win Routine..Now T h e r e is some "tired, rehashed, biased
bullshit"...Now where in the name of Darwinian Hell have I heard That
bloody fucking nonsense before?
For the last 5 sadass yrs, E v e r y branch of the US Gov has
been in the monumentally incapable hands of the Rcons. Sp if there A r
e any crooked politicians 'Standing in the Way of Victory', kindly
explain who they might be and how they're doing that. Dims aren't even
smart enough to get the motherfucking Votes Counted, but their managing
to obstruct the US Military from an Easy Victory in Iraq.
You're a nice guy, but you're talking out of your ass;
jmt
--
Don't fret there Tinkerbell, cowardice Never goes out of
style in these parts...Not wanting to die doesn't make you a coward;
expecting someone else to die for you does. And here I thought I'd seen
it all. The Rcons can put it in their official Platform: "I'm a coward
and I'm really fucking proud of it to the point of belligerance" Argument.
Amazing;
jmt
--
I have no respect for the Russian Military at any point in
Simian history, but we can disagree on that. M r. H i s t o r y made
the rather profound statement on these very premises once that Russia
had won WWII. No qualifiers. No data. No narrowing of the
'parameters", as it were. He's always doin' stuff like that, and
Sheeple either don't feel like going into it, don't care, digitally pat
him on the head and say, "Sure Buddy". Now I admire a
GlobalVillageIdiot as much as the next Ape, but at times I'm going to
say something.
or other. This is One of those times;
jmt
--
I'm just guessing here, but I think Halliburton might have gotten one or two
contracts during Clinton's administration, even when the Dems controlled
both houses of Congress as well as the White House. They certainly didn't
spring to life when GHW was elected, and they certainly didn't run out of
business in the eight years between Sr. and Jr.
If there was a plausible smoking gun there the Dems would most certainly use
it. The fact that they're not says it's either an unsubstantiable charge, or
that they're concerned about collateral damage in their own party.
Sean
Didn't the British lose nearly 60,000 men in one day at the Battle of the
Somme? That's more than we lost in all of Vietnam.
However, let's not forget what Robert E. Lee said: "It is good that war is
so terrible, lest we become too fond of it". As we reduce -our- body count
it becomes too easy for us to forget that war is still a terrible thing.
Sean
And cowardice isn't a party platform. If it was, the Dems would own
it. While our boys are killing other boys that wanna chop your head
off and rape your wife (and pets as well), the Dems are investigating
temperture changes in terrorist detention centers.
Toodles,
Tinkerballs
>i have this little problem with lies and deciept.
Mo,
If you look at the history of the US (or the history of the world), you will
see that lies and deceit are an important part of military operations.
That's why they have all those classifications such as "Confidential",
"Secret", "Top Secret", etc. It would not work well for our government to
discuss all current military issues with the media and general population.
Doing so would leak said information to potential targets or enemies. From
there I think you can see where there'd be a problem. We can look at past
wars and see that much of what we (the general population) know about that
war, was classified information, not available to the press or general
public at the time. Some times, the military, government, or both, will leak
propaganda, lies, wrong information, etc, knowing that it will fall into the
hands of the target or enemy. Doing so, properly and well, can provide an
element of surprise, provide cover for an actual operation or perhaps just
help to demoralize the target/enemy.
Unfortunately, among the current media/general population, there are those
who seem to believe that every aspect of government/military operations
should be unclassified and disseminated immediately to all interested
parties. They don't comprehend, or don't care, that this may put members of
our military at great risk.
As a vet, I understand why this must be true at times. I am unwilling to
make judgments regarding military decisions made now or in the very recent
past, because I am sure I do not have all the information needed to make
such a judgment. Neither do you, nor anyone else in this newsgroup or the
media. We can only make such judgments when it is all over and the
information is declassified. At that point, all the anti-war people yelling
and making armchair quarterback decisions may find that they are very happy
to know that what was done was done. For all you or I know, the whole WMD
thing was an intentional false front. For all you and I know, the whole WMD
thing was true and the weapons were being carted off to the south while our
troops were coming in from the north.
I guess the bottom line is that I wonder how people can take such sure
footed positions one way or the other, knowing that they can't possibly have
all the information.
I'm going to apologize for the tone of my posts to you regarding
this little 'Discussion'. You have always been Gracious and polite and
generous to me(jmt), and as you may have noticed, I can occasionally get
a little pissed. And we all know what happens when Sheeple get pissed.
You're a good Ape and didn't deserve it.
jmt
--
> I think the issue that most Dems are latching onto is that for the
> majority
> of their lives, the military has been a haven for the less fortunate.
> It's a place where low income guys with no discernible future to look
> forward
> to could go, get some disciplined training in a craft of some type, get
> some
> sweet retirement and medical benefits and even get college paid for to
> boot.
I'd just like to add, as a past Navy Recruiter, that, while the above
statement has been very true in the past, and is still true at times today,
the technology of our current military is such that each branch must attract
some very top rung candidates too. Yes, there are positions for some near
the bottom rungs (but not as many as you might think), and quite a few for
the middle rungs too. I can only guess at the number, but I'd bet that close
to half the guys I enlisted were joining either because of family tradition
(dad & grandpa were in the Navy), or because it was the career thy had
chosen some time earlier in life. I enlisted guys that were chomping at the
bit to get in and *wanted* to see some action. Guys that wanted to be Navy
Seals. Guys that went to the Persian gulf, came back and requested to be
assigned to a ship to get them BACK to the Persian Gulf.
I still know and talk with many people who are in the Navy or Marines. You
might be surprised how many are in Iraq right now, for the 2nd, 3rd or 4th
time, because they *asked* to be sent back. I know an Army Reserve officer
who had to leave a very nice, very high paying, job here to take his unit to
Iraq early in the war. They came home a few months back. He pulled some
strings to go back with another unit!
Of course, I'm not naive enough to ask you to believe that there aren't
people in the military saying "Wait a minute! I signed up for college. I
signed up for good bennies... I didn't sign up for this!" ... but hey, it's
part of the deal.
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"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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> Dear Muad'Dweeb;
>
> Fortunately for God/Darwin/Ape/ and the remainder of the
> SemiSentient Beings of the Universe, E W E don't get to make the rules
> Here.(Actually, there Are no rules, which; imnsho, is a v e r y good
> Rule). From your Blatant whining, it is Obvious Why ewe find the
> Crypto-Soliloquies of Aynthrax Rand(RussianCryptoNaziCunt/Dumbass) so
> enthralling. Her deep and profound message of,"I'm Right because I said
> so, and anyone who says I'm not is a great big Poopie head and even if
> I'm Wrong I'm Right and you better STFU right now mister or I will
> scream to HighWhollyHell for my Mommie and stuff so There and did I
> mention I'm right and Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" would fit right in with
> your stirring Speeches and random babbling of the PartyLine. Of course,
> in fairness to Ms.Rand, she was a Profound Inspiration to the likes of
> Nick Dixon(37thPrezUS/Burglar), Charlie Manson, Ted Bundy, and was, of
> couse, Unanimous choice for National PosterGirl for the
> SheepleForTheEthicalTreatmentOfTheButt-Ugly).
>
> But E n o u g h about E W E......
>
> On the sad day when Wild Bill left Orifice, untold thousands
> of "Mucans(and others) worldwide were still A l i v e, the
> WorldApeCenter was still standing, 'Murca still had a Constitution, the
> Econ was thriving, the Birds were singing, and Sheeple were
> Happy...('Cept for the RCoNazis fo course, but as St.Charles Stuart
> Parnell remarked in his III Epistle to Jolly Old Queen Vickie and the
> Lards of (alleged) Parliament(a bunch of goons whose sole raison d'etre
> is to Lick the Queen's inbred genitals), "Ewe just C a n ' t please
> everybody goddammit".
>
> A n d, lest we forget, E w e were an Obnoxious little
> JackassBastard Then and Now;
> jmt
>
> George Lawrence wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Lately you have been resorting to name calling and personal attacks. You
> > call me an imbecile. You call the Republican party nazis. When a person
has
> > no statement to make as to why his side of the argument is right then he
> > basically has nothing to say; a person who is only angry because he
can't
> > support his position. If you are going to debate , come up with a
thoughtful
> > statement, not juvenile name calling or personal attacks. This is what
lost
> > your party the election last year.
> >
> > The Bush adminstration took a whole country and is now mopping up the
> > terrorists who show up late to the party as expected. This is obvious.
The
> > death count is incredibly low compared to other wars. This will prove to
be
> > one of the quickest and most successful wars the U.S. has ever fought
> >
> > Do I think this war is right? NO. No war is not morally right . They are
> > only inevitable and necessary. Some are unnecessary but not this one. It
has
> > been the tactic of the liberals to paint the supporters of this war as
"baby
> > killers and "war mongers". Again, this is what lost your party the
election
> > last year because the common man can see that this war was inevitable.
No
> > conservative who supports this war thinks that war is morally right.
They
> > know we were attacked and responded in kind at those who would attack
again.
> >
> > If a democrat had been in office the response whould have been the same
> > EXCEPT he would have waited a year later until another attack and it
would
> > have cost us more lives. We are lucky we had someone in the office with
the
> > balls to attack immediately.
> >
> > Now respond to the the points I stated or shut the fuck up with the
junior
> > high name calling. I'll be glad to consider your logical statements if
you
> > make any.
> >
> > --
> > George Lawrence
> > George's Drum Shop
> > 2091 Front Street
> > Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
> > website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> > email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
> > 330 940 DRUM (3786)
> > toll free 866 970 0800
> > fax 330 940 3785
> >
> > "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> > buy each of his children a drum."
> > -Chinese proverb
> > "jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
> > news:kY-dnREo6Nm...@shawneelink.net...
> >
> >>Dear GeorgeOfTheBungle;
> >>
> >> Due to the profound MisMenstruation of ResidentWanker and his
> >>InaneClownPosse, the US military is stretched so thin it couldn't take a
> >>7-11 in Shreveport. As to the analysis/prediction of military/political
> >>events here on Mirth, you may be the most profound Imbecile I've ever
> >>seen. If there were a Special Olympics for GeoPolitical Retardation,
> >>the Gold Medal would be yours.
> >>
> >> and You started this nonsense Boopsie, so stop whining;
> >> jmt
> >>
> >>George Lawrence wrote:
> >>
> >>>No JMT, you are wrong. I am too old to enlist but I have family members
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>the military Iraq so you can go fuck yourself. I know exactly what I'm
> >>>talking about. People die in wars. We did not start this war. You are
> >>>deluded if you think we did. You need to take a chill pill and not take
> >>>political discussions so personally.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>George Lawrence
> >>>George's Drum Shop
> >>>2091 Front Street
> >>>Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
> >>>website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> >>>email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
> >>>330 940 DRUM (3786)
> >>>toll free 866 970 0800
> >>>fax 330 940 3785
> >>>
> >>> "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> >>>buy each of his children a drum."
> >>> -Chinese proverb
> >>>"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:Q5adncxjZIw...@shawneelink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Dear Genome;
> >>>>
> >>>> If this "War" is the right thing to do, how many of your family
> >>>>members are you encouraging to enlist? Since it's the Right thing to
> >>>>do, and everything is going "according to Plan", why don't you appoint
> >>>>yourself as a committee of one to visit the homes of 1500 Dead
soldiers
> >>>>and inform their families how splendidly everything is going.
> >>>> You don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking
> >>>>about and are making yourself look like a cretin;
> >>>> jmt
> >>>>
> >>>>George Lawrence wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>It's not Bush's war. It is the whole country's war. Even John
Sheeple out. ;o)
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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> Dear Snuggles;
>
> How quaint.
>
> Psssst, Pay attention, Georgia, this is really
> informative:
>
> Your "buddies" don't decide who is awarded Military
> Decorations/Citations etc. However, if they E v e r give one out for
> talking unmitigated H o r s e s h i t, ewe'll get a Great Big One,
> probably suitable for framing and shit.
>
> Btw, if you get any S t u p i d e r, your gloved ones may have
> to opt for a PreEmptive Lobotomy from the Rear.
>
> Use Camouflage/Cover A N D Comcealment and Hope for the
> best, Buddy; I'm pullin for ya;
> jmt
>
>
>
> George Lawrence wrote:
> > According to his buddies in the service who were there with him, he got
that
> > silver star for nothing.
> >
> > --
> > George Lawrence
> > George's Drum Shop
> > 2091 Front Street
> > Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
> > website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> > email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
> > 330 940 DRUM (3786)
> > toll free 866 970 0800
> > fax 330 940 3785
> >
> > "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> > buy each of his children a drum."
> > -Chinese proverb
> > "jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
> > news:8LadnUHa15N...@shawneelink.net...
> >
> >>Dear KGB;
> >> Would you prefer a Social Idiot who rode Family Trends into the
> >>White House?
> >> JK wasn't awarded the Silver Star for "Trendiness";
> >> jmt
> >>
> >>BKO wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Sean Conolly" <sjcono...@yaaho.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:fIpve.4674$qm....@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"George Lawrence" <drum...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:bAnve.3767$re....@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> >>>>George I have to respectfully disagree. I firmly believe that in the
> >
> > wake
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>9-11 the administration took a hard look at the intractable politics
of
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>middle east and decided that it was time to simply rearrange the
pieces
> >
> > on
> >
> >>>>the board. Iraq was a logical place to do if want to shake up the
> >>>
> >>>countries
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>we're at odds with and support our friends. No one cared about what
> >>>
> >>>happened
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>to Saddam, but we still needed a little WMD sugar coating on the story
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>>get everyone to agree to a preemptive war.
> >>>>
> >>>>The problem of course is that rearranging the pieces doesn't always
help
> >>>>your situation. It's just a crap shoot to see if you can open up more
> >>>>opportunities to advance your position, and only if you can understand
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>>opportunities and take the right actions. Frankly I think our
strategic
> >>>>planners are too mired in "group think" to do either. They know a lot
> >
> > more
> >
> >>>>about we want to hear than what is really happening in the rest of the
> >>>>world.
> >>>>
> >>>>Only time will tell if the long term interests of the country were
> >
> > helped
> >
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>hindered by this move. My honest prediction is that it will end up
being
> >>>>viewed as a huge blunder that left us in a far worse position in the
> >>>
> >>>Middle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>East than we started with.
> >>>>
> >>>>Disclaimer: I supported going into Iraq at the time and I still
support
> >>>
> >>>GW.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>However I think Kerry hit the nail on the head when he said that Iraq
> >
> > was
> >
> >>>>the wrong war. I'll make another prediction that Iraq is going to
> >
> > reverse
> >
> >>>>the political pendulum in the next couple of elections. I think the
Dems
> >>>>will hold their own in 2006 and start gaining ground in 2008. Maybe
not
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>White House, but I could see the Senate going to the Dems. IF they
don't
> >>>>self-destruct, which is always a real possibility when the far left is
> >>>>controlling the party.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Sean,
> >>>
> >>>I was following your position with interest until you cited Kerry. IMO
> >
> > all
> >
> >>>he is is a sloganeer who rides social trends in search of power. The
> >
> > 'wrong
> >
> >>>war'? Is there another, better? Or none at all? In either case the
> >
> > phrase
> >
> >>>belies his integrity.
> >>>
> >>>brent
> Dear McD;
>
> I'm going to apologize for the tone of my posts to you regarding
> this little 'Discussion'. You have always been Gracious and polite and
> generous to me(jmt), and as you may have noticed, I can occasionally get a
> little pissed. And we all know what happens when Sheeple get pissed.
> You're a good Ape and didn't deserve it.
>
> jmt
Dude, that was a very cool thing to do.
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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> Dear AynZweiDrei;
>
> Right again, Poodles, every Professor is Wrong, and little ol' E W
> E is right.
> Still think that Russia W o n WWII? (Of course ewe gotta admire
> the old tried and true,(and O n l y) Russian Military Tactic of Running
> like Hell full speed in the general direction of the Pacific Ocean until
> the Enemy freezes to death in the Snow.
>
> Your Name, (well, One of them), henceforth and to wit, shall be:
>
> M r. H i s t o r y
>
> With your vast and limitless knowledge of World,(and no doubt, C o s
> m i c) Historical Data, you're no doubt aware that Sweden, (yes
> motherfucking S w e d e n) kicked the living shit our of Russia, on a
> running basis, for 20 f u c k i n g Y e a r s? Beat em like an old
> piece of meat.(something you're undoubtedly familiar with) F i n l a n
> d kicked their asses. Under Freddie the (NotSo)Great, a small German
> Principality,(relatively speaking) kicked them so far West the Russian
> Army had to learn a different language in order to find someone who
> understand their Surrendering...
>
> You want m o r e, don'tcha Boomer;
> jmt
>
>
>
>
> George Lawrence wrote:
> > Forget everything your college professors told you and do some original
> > thinking and research. We had been at war for 12 years with Sadaam..
Bush I,
> > Clinton's bombing of Bagdad (remember that, Liberals?), clinton's plans
to
> > invade Iraq that he chickened out on, Clinton's statements regarding
WMDs in
> > Iraq. The relations with Sadaam were only diplomatic; the enemy of my
enemy
> > is my friend. I think that everyone in college on 9/11 had their
memories
> > conveniently erased of the actual events that led to Bush II's invasion.
The
> > rehetoric about the war being about oil is wiped out by pictures of our
> > bodies falling from the twin towers.
> >
> > --
> > George Lawrence
> > George's Drum Shop
> > 2091 Front Street
> > Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
> > website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> > email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
> > 330 940 DRUM (3786)
> > toll free 866 970 0800
> > fax 330 940 3785
> >
> > "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> > buy each of his children a drum."
> > -Chinese proverb
> > "Paul Hobson" <gtg...@mail.gatech.edu> wrote in message
> > news:d9mhvd$l33$1...@news-int.gatech.edu...
> >
> >>George Lawrence wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not Bush's war. It is the whole country's war.
> >>
> >>No, I'm pretty sure it's Cheney's and Rumsfeld's war. Remember the past
> >>republican administrations that were buddies with Saddam and would go to
> >>Baghdad just to hang out with Saddam?
> >>
> >>DC & DR: Hey, buddy!
> >>SH: Hello Americans!
> >>DC & DR: Hey man, you you need anything? Missiles? Tanks?
> >>SH: Oh, that'd be great!!
> >>DC & DR: Consider it done.
> >>
> >>During that time Reagan got OPEC to agree to the Petro-dollar, meaning
> >>everywhere around the word, oil would only be sold in USD, even if
> >>France was selling to Malaysia, it'd be in USD.
> >>
> >>So one day our *buddy* Saddam sold oil to the French in Euros.
> >>
> >>[gasp] He was disloyal to the FRAT!!!
> >>
> >>Time to go to war...quick, make some shit up!
> >>
> >>[I think we all know the rest from here.]
> >>
> >>This war is a personal vendetta, and it's supporter would make me laugh
> >>if the notion of such an ignorant populace of the world's freest country
> >>with the most access to information didn't scare the crap out of me.
> >>
> >>Even John Kerry's.
> >>
> >>>Remember "reproting for duty". That's the problem with liberals; it's
> >
> > all
> >
> >>>politics with them. No concern for the wolves at the door.
> >>>
> >>> Bin Ladin is all but captured. The real war in the middle east is with
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>governments who cowardly back the terrorists like Bin Ladin. That is
who
> >>>attacked us on 9/11. Bin Ladin is just a martyr puppet. Making Iraq the
> >>>first run up the middle was the right move. We took the war to them and
> >
> > now
> >
> >>>the terrorists are showing up like bees to honey, all according to
plan.
> >>>Syria or Iran are next (even money on that one. Syria would be easier
> >
> > but I
> >
> >>>think the WMDs are in Iran), then Saudi Arabia. Our real problem is
> >
> > figuring
> >
> >>>out where the next attack on our country is going to be. When that
> >
> > happens,
> >
> >>>all the present politics will be out the window and all who opposed the
> >
> > war
> >
> >>>will finally realize that they are in it. So says my crystal ball :-)
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>George Lawrence
> >>>George's Drum Shop
> >>>2091 Front Street
> >>>Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
> >>>website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
> >>>email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
> >>>330 940 DRUM (3786)
> >>>toll free 866 970 0800
> >>>fax 330 940 3785
> >>>
> >>> "If thine enemy wrong thee,
> >>>buy each of his children a drum."
> >>> -Chinese proverb
> >>>"Gene Holmberg" <gen...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:2Lfve.9146$NX4....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Equal time here.
> >>>>
> >>>>Wesley Clark/John Conyers
> >>>>
> >>>>Clark could certainly run Bush's war in Iraq better, as
> >>>>well as the real war looking for than SOB Bin Ladin.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Gene
> >>>>
> >>>>"They that can give up essential liberty
> >>>>to obtain a little temporary safety
> >>>>deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> >>>>
> >>>>Ben Franklin
> >>>>--
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Paul M. Hobson
> >>Georgia Institute of Technology
> >>http://www.underthecouch.org
> >>.:you may want to fix my email
> >>address before you send anything:.
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
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--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
> --
> Remove Suckaz to Reply
Halliburton got its post 9/11 "No Bid Contract" in Iraq (or Afgan.)
because....get this...THEY WERE THE ONLY COMPANY IN THE WORLD CAPABLE
OF DOING WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR SPECIFIC CIVIL RECONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR
OF DAMAGE NOT DONE BY US BUT BY YEARS OF NEGLECT FROM SADDAM AND/OR THE
TALIBAN.
Hope this helps. Google for it.
OK, that's enough. I know both of you better than this, so let's just agree
to disagree and let it go.
Please.
Sean
You are a lying sack of shit Senor. I have n e v e r, at any time
in the last 8 yrs, demonstrated the sligtest Respect for ewe in any way
whatsoever. We may have spoke on the phone 2 or 3 times for 2 or 3
fucking minutes, can't recall. Chances are that I was P o l i t e and C
o u r t e o u s. Your mercantile mentality is being demonstrated by the
fact that ewe would confuse Courtesy with Respect.
y'r pal;
jmt
Is That a fact? So do you think I was d r a f t e d?
Darwin glove your little peapickin ass, you do keep gettin' funnier;
jmt
r o f l m a o;
(I'm not allowed to have bottles, for
obvious reasons);
jmt
Gee Honey, you sound disappointed/shocked/surprised...
Wild Bill is my Hero and I r e a l l y
wanna spend a little quality time with MsHillary and her Catsuit;
jmt
--
WhollyMotherHumpingJesusFrogOnAPlateOfFatBackInTheGoddamMornin' ewe said
it a g a i n...
All you bastards are witnesses;
Thorazine I S your friend;
jmt
C u e Inspector Clouseau:
F a c t:
(hangon hangon hangon oooh aaaaaah oouchie
mmmmhhhhh ahhhhhhhhh Ummm Ok, sorry, I was still Fucking Myself
per Instructions of last nite)
You have drain bamage Senor
F a c t:
If ewe get me laughing any harder my tumtum and
intesticles are going to burst...
F a c t:
Have you ever noticed that Lily Tomlin looks like Leonard
Nimoy in a very big way???
"Elvis may have been the Kong, but I(jmt)am the
Motherfucking b e s t"...;
Modesty prevents my further commentary;
jmt
...and supposing that you come from a Military Family of
remarkably Distinguished Service etc etc etc...W h a t precisely does
that make e w e? This little Manichean WorldView that ewe Fascist
Twerps seem to glorify in is a Fiction. Now, as fond as I am of
Fiction, you Clowns would be wasted in any sort of Therapy. You aren't
even bright enough to see the problem. At times I admit I do feel sorry
for ewe, (in a Evolutionary sort of way).
when Your relatives were allegedly "bombing Nazis", they seemed
to have missed a few;
jmt
--
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:4ridnb7YNtC...@shawneelink.net...
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:4ridnb7YNtC...@shawneelink.net...
And you're surprised he had no point? How long have you been reading
his posts? And when was the last time you felt he said something
substantial? When he doesn't agree he will resort to name calling; this
is nothing new.
-Mark
It doesn't bother me in the slightest Sean. (Of course, no
matter w h a t on Mirth G-Law were to say to me(jmt), I would n e v e r
insinuate that he was back on drugs, etc., but that's simply a Stylistic
diffenence in Manner, between a Southern GentleApe(me, jmt) and a
southern Jackass,(He-GeeLaw).
Belvedeeeeere, come here boy;
jmt
--
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:4ridnb7YNtC...@shawneelink.net...
Oh yeah?
jmt(ape)
--
Thou speakest horseshit and you know it senor. None of our
alleged conversations lasted over a few minutes, and I Can recall only 2
or 3. One concerning a Taye set that I bought. I think one about a
double Pedal. Maybe we spoke when I swapped the Dunnett for the N+C
snare. We have n e v e r had a lengthy conversation, thank Darwin. You
may feel free to regurgitate Anything I may have said to you in this
alleged conversation, everyone here knows I was a Drunk for decades,
I've freely admitted it, big fucking deal. Down here our skeletons
aren't in the fucking closet, we take em out and show em off...
Do ewe really think I'm fucking stupid enough to give you or
anyone else I don't know any important information over a goddam
cellular phone if it weren't pubic knowledge?;
jmt
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:qPydndrpTMD...@shawneelink.net...
Now e w e are B r e a k i n my goddam heart.
Mint condition Starclassics, Walnut, 4 toms/snare/bass (since when are
10/12/13/14 odd sizes)? (Well, you do reside/are held captive in Ohio,
I suppose)... You got a fucking bargain...
Obviously your Salesmanship needs work; Nice try though;
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:VrCdnWBRuI8...@shawneelink.net...
You r e a l l y flatter yourself GG. The o n l y occasion I
ever got pissed over someone calling me an (alleged) drunk was when
Markos alluded to it, and he didn't know.
Plus I l i k e him, so it's ok; ; )
jmt
Ps Also Boopsie, I deeply resent your saying I have goddam M o o d S w
i n g s... My moods don't swing motherfucker. I am a l w a y s in a
bad goddam Mood...(it's an Irish thing)
This is the third or fourth post since you swore you were never
speaking to me again. You k n o w you cannot stop. (I think it's my
amnanimal magnestism). : )
I will give you goddam points for trying by god, ewe check your
cellular records, if I bragged about my kids for a few minutes, it was
still a s h o r t call. I never discussed A n y t h i n g "personal"
with youse. It's not my style. A few minutes, tops.
goodbye forever;
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:p_mdnQTZxP3...@shawneelink.net...
--
George Lawrence
George's Drum Shop
2091 Front Street
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44221
website http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
email geo...@georgesdrumshop.com
330 940 DRUM (3786)
toll free 866 970 0800
fax 330 940 3785
"If thine enemy wrong thee,
buy each of his children a drum."
-Chinese proverb
"jmt" <j...@shawneelink.net> wrote in message
news:wuGdnTHoSNG...@shawneelink.net...
......My final reply to you also be formatted in your
silly-ass indented way though sans any cool quips and Nazi fantasy-type
shit that you just loooooooove bringing up. I have nothing to add of
any worth to you; never had I guess.
oh, and the whole RMMP Overlord vibe you put out...you
know..the fountain of knowledge you attempt to spew out that some here
really seem to dig? It's tired. And old. You're more of an autumn
than spring.
dml
--
"Come down off the comode, others need to shit....."
Me
E w e just keep getting funnier... I've been getting paid for
this shit for over 40 yrs,(and didn't have to open a goddam music store
to generate income...) i forgot more about music before the first
fucking grade than your dumbass will ever comprehend.
Goodbye forever;
jmt