Why I'm not buying a Parker Fly
Jack A. Zucker
Oh well,
My Parker Fly phase is over! I took my PRS SAS up to the store to hear next
to the fly and the PRS had just as good a clean sound. Here's what I
decided:
1) The upper bout is poorly designed for sitting. It digs into my chest and
I might be tempted to cut it off with a jig saw.
2) There were many replies to my query regarding paint chipping and the
bottom line is that Parker did a poor job in finding a way to get the finish
to adhere properly to the carbon-fiber coating. The result of this is that
when you get a ding, instead of it being just a dent and a crack in the
finish, the Parker's paint typically chips and falls off!
3) I wasn't knocked out by the pseudo-acoustic sound, plus you can achieve
the same thing with several after market pickups (although alas, none will
fit onto the SAS)
4) No dual humbucking middle pickup position. On the fly when the 3 way
selector is in the middle position, you get a combination of two coils (one
from each humbucker and I'm not sure which coils either). It sounds cool but
the volume differential is around 50% ! I find that to be ridiculous and I
happen to like the sound of the two humbucking pickups together. The middle
position for me would be unusable except possibly for rhythm and even then
it might not be loud enough.
5) I profusely dislike the huge cavity in the back and the reliance on a 9v
battery
-Jaz
evil twin®
On Wed, 27 May 1998 20:53:19 -0400, "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com>
wrote:
>Oh well,
>
>My Parker Fly phase is over! I took my PRS SAS up to the store to hear next
>to the fly and the PRS had just as good a clean sound. Here's what I
>decided:
>
>1) The upper bout is poorly designed for sitting. It digs into my chest and
>I might be tempted to cut it off with a jig saw.
Are you sure your chest isn't poorly designed? Maybe you should just
cut one of your ribs out with a jig saw. I'd hate to see you pass one
up for something so easy to fix.
BYE!
SEFSTRAT
<<) The upper bout is poorly designed for sitting. It digs into my chest and
>I might be tempted to cut it off with a jig saw.
>>
Agreed, I had the same problem. It was light, but shaped poorly.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
Ilkka Sorsa
Jack A. Zucker (j...@gwis.com) wrote:
: My Parker Fly phase is over! I took my PRS SAS up to the store to hear next
: to the fly and the PRS had just as good a clean sound. Here's what I
: decided:
: 1) The upper bout is poorly designed for sitting. It digs into my chest and
: I might be tempted to cut it off with a jig saw.
I was also almost drooling over Fly Deluxe but stopped immediately after
trying to play when sitting. Still, it would definitely be an alternative
if suddenly all stratocasters would vanish from earth.. My strat surely
fits like a glove, standing or sitting or whatever. What a design they
did back then.. ;)
--
-Ipe
[ http://www.kyamk.fi/~y95silso/mp3 ]
Carl Christensen
On 28 May 98 16:14:51 GMT, y95s...@kyamk.fi (Ilkka Sorsa) wrote:
>I was also almost drooling over Fly Deluxe but stopped immediately after
>trying to play when sitting. Still, it would definitely be an alternative
I had the same problem with my Ovations which is why I sold them all.
I actually liked the sound but having it slide off my leg by the time
I'm finished practicing a tune was a drag. And standing up, the
convex back on my convex gut put it at a 40 degree angle! :-)
--
Carl Christensen
Philadelphia, PA USA
E-mail: ca...@navpoint.com Web: http://www.navpoint.com/~carl
STRATQUEEN
SEFSTRAT wrote:
<<Agreed, I had the same problem. It was light, but shaped poorly.>>
Try being buxom like ESB and me. It's a curse, I tell ya.....
Carlginger
>SEFSTRAT wrote:
>
><<Agreed, I had the same problem. It was light, but shaped poorly.>>
>
>Try being buxom like ESB and me. It's a curse, I tell ya.....
>
>
I wasn't aware Liz had big ones.
Alright, Liz!
Carl
Phantom Post
>Try being buxom like ESB and me. It's a curse, I tell ya.....
>
Yes. I'd like to try it. May I borrow your buxoms temporarily?
PAT
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Marzzz
>>I was also almost drooling over Fly Deluxe but stopped immediately after
trying to play when sitting. Still, it would definitely be an alternative
fits like a glove, standing or sitting or whatever. What a design they
did back then.. ;) <<
If you think a strat is comfortable, try a Klein sometime......
Stratoman6
>My Parker Fly phase is over! I took my PRS SAS up to the store to hear
>next<
>to the fly and the PRS had just as good a clean sound. Here's what I<
>decided:<
Lemme guess, you decided that the Parker is better suited for a boat oar!!!!
No, no, it's better at taking pizzas from the oven.
NO NO NO, I got it, it's better suited for making a nice new table lamp for the
wife.
Regards,
Stratoman
" Gonna make pretty womens jump and shout..." Don't you know Muddy Waters
invented 'lectricity?
Stratoman6
>Try being buxom like ESB and me. It's a curse, I tell ya.....<
Are you saying you have big boobs?? WOW, I never noticed...
Zorro...@hotmail.com
In article <6kici8$ht0$1...@news.gwis.com>,(snip)..
IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
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Zorro...@hotmail.com writes:
>IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
>professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
Reeves Gabrels play one in Bowie's band. Through a VG-8, no less. How
very 90's of him.
Matt I.
Matthew Ivaliotes
mar...@aol.com (Marzzz) writes:
>If you think a strat is comfortable, try a Klein sometime......
And bring a co-signer.
Matt I.
evil twin®
On 28 May 1998 23:16:20 GMT, strat...@aol.com (Stratoman6) wrote:
>>My Parker Fly phase is over! I took my PRS SAS up to the store to hear
>>next to the fly and the PRS had just as good a clean sound. Here's what I
>>decided
>
>Lemme guess, you decided that the Parker is better suited for a boat oar!!!!
>
>No, no, it's better at taking pizzas from the oven.
>NO NO NO, I got it, it's better suited for making a nice new table lamp for the
>wife.
That description sounds just like a PRS to me...
Marzzz
Matt I. writes:
>If you think a strat is comfortable, try a Klein sometime......
>>And bring a co-signer.
Have you priced a Les Paul recently? The Klein is an absolute bargain in
comparison.....
Milan Plechata
Dave Navarro played one with the Chili Peppers. I don't know if he
used it on the album, but I remember seeing him with one when they
performed My Friends on Letterman.
Milan
On Fri, 29 May 1998 00:10:40 GMT, Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <6kici8$ht0$1...@news.gwis.com>,
> "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh well,
>(snip)..
>
>IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
>professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
>
Carlginger
>>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
>
>very 90's of him.
>
>Matt I.
Mark Farner is playing one because of it's light weight.
Carl
Matthew Ivaliotes
mar...@aol.com (Marzzz) writes:
>Matt I. writes:
>>And bring a co-signer.
>Have you priced a Les Paul recently? The Klein is an absolute bargain in
>comparison.....
So is Dom Perignon and real estate in Japan. Gibson is hardly the
hallmark of price/performance.
Matt I.
TJSTRAT
>Who in the world plays one of these
>professionally ?
Harvey Mandel, for one. Of course, he also plays through Crate amplifiers
live...
TJS
Jack A. Zucker
Jack A. Zucker
Carlginger wrote in message >
>Mark Farner is playing one because of it's light weight.
>
>Carl
Wasn't Mark the first Rock star who worked out ? What happened ?
-Jaz
evil twin®
On Fri, 29 May 1998 00:10:40 GMT, Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <6kici8$ht0$1...@news.gwis.com>,
> "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh well,
>(snip)..
>
>IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
>professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
Matthew Ivaliotes
PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on stage
many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.
Anti-PRS oppressor.
Matt I., man of many casues
Matthew Ivaliotes
Carlginger
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Why I'm not buying a Parker Fly
>From: "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com>
>Date: Fri, May 29, 1998 07:00 EDT
>Message-id: <6km4gk$l30$1...@news.gwis.com>
According to his interview with V.G., a 1979 car accident
screwed his neck up. He had surgury, and uses the Fly for it's light weight.
Carl
stevi...@hotmail.com
In article <199805282317...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
strat...@aol.com (Stratoman6) wrote:
>
> >Try being buxom like ESB and me. It's a curse, I tell ya.....<
>
> Are you saying you have big boobs?? WOW, I never noticed...
>
Kewl...an ever-so-subtle shift from pointless dick-measuring to
boob-measuring! Now the babes can't complain about being excluded...
Stevie DD
Brian Rost
Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
> professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
> practice?
Reeves Gabrels with David Bowie is probably the best known Parker
player. Check out the last few Bowie albums.
Also jazz bassist Steve Swallow has the one and only Parker bass (a a 5
string) and has been using it for five or six years now, live and on
recordings.
--
Brian Rost
3Com Corp.
978-264-1550
br...@synnet.com
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J...
Jack A. Zucker wrote:
> Carlginger wrote in message >
>
> >Mark Farner is playing one because of it's light weight.
> >
> >Carl
>
> Wasn't Mark the first Rock star who worked out ? What happened ?
>
> -Jaz
He has something wrong with his back.....
Outt..
Jeff.
Timothy H. Evans
Brian Rost wrote:
>
> Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
> > professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
> > practice?
>
> Reeves Gabrels with David Bowie is probably the best known Parker
> player. Check out the last few Bowie albums.
>
I saw Grand Funk at a local festival a few weeks ago and Mark Farner is
playing a fly. Phil Keaggy also has a new album out called "On the Fly",
on which he uses the Parker as his main electric (layers with other
guitars in some cuts). One of the tracks is a 24 minute workout of his
Parker. And for those turned off to Keaggy because you have to get him
from the "Christian Music" section (Oh, someone might see me looking at
that section), "On the Fly" is all instrumental, so there's nothing to
offend anyone's religious sensibilities (or lack thereof).
Tim Evans
Pensacola, FL
Carl Christensen
On Fri, 29 May 1998 08:18:07 -0500, "Timothy H. Evans"
<TEv...@mail.pen.net> wrote:
>Parker. And for those turned off to Keaggy because you have to get him
>from the "Christian Music" section (Oh, someone might see me looking at
>that section), "On the Fly" is all instrumental, so there's nothing to
>offend anyone's religious sensibilities (or lack thereof).
I thought it was more the fact the "Christian musicians" want to
segregate themselves from us evil atheist or satanic rock guitarists.
At least until they get shit passed like "the Religious Freedom
Ammendment" where they can feel free to cram their dogmatic crap down
everyone's throat...
--
Carl Christensen
Philadelphia, PA USA
E-mail: ca...@navpoint.com Web: http://www.navpoint.com/~carl
Steve
Too UGLY!!!!!!!!!
SEFSTRAT
<<I had the same problem with my Ovations which is why I sold them all.
I actually liked the sound but having it slide off my leg by the time
I'm finished practicing a tune was a drag.>>
I love Ovatioons for stage work, but I know what you mean. They have RUINED me
over the last 20 years or so...I no longer can play a guitar of ANY kind
without a strap. I can't rest any guitar on my knee and play any more.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
practice?>>
Jimmy Olander, of Diamond Rio. Hot p,ayer.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
>>
PRS?!
David Grissom
Alec Lifeson
Carlos Santana
Tommy Johnston
ahhh...you're just tweakin' us anyway.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
stevi...@hotmail.com
In article <6kkue1$spe$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,> professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
> practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
> I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
Oops.... you accidently posted to the Parker Fly thread. The PRS thread is
one aisle over.... ;-)
srd
stevi...@hotmail.com
In article <6km73j$2ov$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
lo...@staff.uiuc.edu (Matthew Ivaliotes) wrote:
>
> ha...@primary.net (evil twin) writes:
> >On Fri, 29 May 1998 00:10:40 GMT, Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.
Yeah! There's DOZENS of well-known guitarists who play PRS's.
There's.....um.... that guy from that group.... and....um....well....uh....
that "Bob" guy plays one....I think.
I'll get back to you on this one.
stevi...@hotmail.com
In article <199805291220...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
carlg...@aol.com (Carlginger) wrote:
>
> According to his interview with V.G., a 1979 car accident
> screwed his neck up. He had surgury, and uses the Fly for it's light weight.
>
> Carl
MIC TOO!
BYE!
Matthew Ivaliotes
"Timothy H. Evans" <TEv...@mail.pen.net> writes:
>I saw Grand Funk at a local festival a few weeks ago and Mark Farner is
>playing a fly. Phil Keaggy also has a new album out called "On the Fly",
>on which he uses the Parker as his main electric (layers with other
>guitars in some cuts). One of the tracks is a 24 minute workout of his
>Parker. And for those turned off to Keaggy because you have to get him
>from the "Christian Music" section (Oh, someone might see me looking at
>that section)
I just find it a dorky classification. Who gives a rat's ass what the
musician's religion is? Either they have talent and something to say or
they don't. I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.
That said, Keaggy is clearly talented, as are some others who allow
themselves to be tossed in the 'Christian' music genre. And he indeed
used a Fly. I've heard some of that album, and it's pretty good. Not
really my favored style, but worth listening to,a dn it shows real talent.
Matt I.
Matthew Ivaliotes
sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) writes:
>PRS?!
>David Grissom
>Alec Lifeson
>Carlos Santana
>Tommy Johnston
Larry Lalonde
Jennifer Turner
>ahhh...you're just tweakin' us anyway.
Yeah, he is. :)
Matt I.
STRATQUEEN
Matt wrote:
<<PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on stage
many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.>>
I love Jen Turner's PRS tone on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily". Very, very
nice......
Slide on........
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STRATQUEEN
<<He has something wrong with his back.....>>
These guitars are very light, I take it......but because of the design I
wouldn't be able to play them?
Matthew Ivaliotes
strat...@aol.com (STRATQUEEN) writes:
>Matt wrote:
><<PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on stage
>many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.>>
>I love Jen Turner's PRS tone on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily". Very, very
>nice......
Oh yeah. One of my favorite tones. I hear tell there's a Fulldrive II
involved in that tone as well.
Matt I.
Ron Thompson
Matthew Ivaliotes wrote:
> Gibson is hardly the
> hallmark of price/performance.
Hes right you know. テnder is.
--
rct
The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
elizabeth & chris
Carlginger wrote:
> I wasn't aware Liz had big ones.
> Alright, Liz!
>
> Carl
Big enough to get in the way!
ESB
Polfus
><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Why I'm not buying a Parker Fly
>Date: Fri, May 29, 1998 10:26 EDT
>Message-id: <199805291426...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
><<Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>
>Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
>>>
>
>
>
>David Grissom
>Alec Lifeson
>Carlos Santana
>Tommy Johnston
>
>
>SEFSTRAT
Don't forget Jimmy Page and Dicky Betts.
Polfus
L'Entarteur
Matthew Ivaliotes (lo...@staff.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Reeves Gabrels play one in Bowie's band. Through a VG-8, no less. How
: very 90's of him.
I think he gets some killer sounds, especially for being amp-less.
Non-traditional, but I like it.
Jas.
----------------------
James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
Remove the XX
Ron Thompson
Polfus wrote:
>
> Don't forget Jimmy Page and Dicky Betts.
> Polfus
I don't know what Page is using these days outside
of his MixMaster Jimmee rig from his recent
triumphant return on SNL.
But Bo knows Betts. Two strats these past two
years, both Japanese in origin, both hacked to
bits. Got some sort of rail pickup up front in
the yellow one, other two pus gone, volume pot
moved down to the middle. The sunburst one has
the same rail up front, kept the other two pus in
it, but he don't use them anyway. The volume pot
is moved down on this one too.
Of course all of the above COULD be vice versa, I
just don't zactly recall which one had which done.
This years shows are in four weeks, I'll write
down which is which.
I don't care for the rails meself, but he likes
them. Hes using the same old bridge cables for
strings, up about as high as you can get them. I
suppose the major difference is that he keeps the
rails up closer to the strings because he can I
guess.
SEFSTRAT
<<These guitars are very light, I take it......but because of the design I
wouldn't be able to play them?>>
Well...I dunno. Perhaps you could make one disappear.....
:-)
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<Big enough to get in the way!>>
Yes, but in the way of WHAT........
Steve
SEFSTRAT
Carl Christensen
On 28 May 1998 23:04:12 GMT, mar...@aol.com (Marzzz) wrote:
>If you think a strat is comfortable, try a Klein sometime......
I'm interested in hearing more about Klein. I've been thinking of a
custom guitar project; either a Suhr Tele or a Klein. I think I
deserve one by now.
It's hard to find info and try one out though, it's something you
don't just see sitting at Sam Ash ready to play! Has anybody ever
done a review? I'm especially interested in the Klein with the Barden
pickups (Tele neck pickup and "two-tone" bridge). Suhr doesn't
mention Barden's on his page (unfinished yet) but I imagine he could
make a guitar with them.
Matthew Ivaliotes
Ron Thompson <thom...@admin.tc.faa.gov> writes:
>Matthew Ivaliotes wrote:
>> Gibson is hardly the
>> hallmark of price/performance.
Uhh...nahh. I'll not be lured so easily. :)
Matt I.
Carlginger
>It's hard to find info and try one out though, it's something you
>don't just see sitting at Sam Ash ready to play! Has anybody ever
>done a review? I'm especially interested in the Klein with the Barden
>pickups (Tele neck pickup and "two-tone" bridge). Suhr doesn't
>mention Barden's on his page (unfinished yet) but I imagine he could
>make a guitar with them.
>
>--
>Carl Christensen
Im pretty sure Indoor Storm carries Kleins and may have a review on their site.
Carl
Ron Thompson
Dang.
STRATQUEEN
ESB wrote:
<<Carlginger wrote:
>> I wasn't aware Liz had big ones.
>> Alright, Liz!
>Big enough to get in the way!>
You just gotta love them *I-talians*. ;-)
STRATQUEEN
SEFSTRAT wrote:
<<Well...I dunno. Perhaps you could make one disappear.....>>
Are you speaking from your "personal observations" last March,, or generally?
elizabeth & chris
SEFSTRAT wrote:
>
>
> Yes, but in the way of WHAT........
Just wait until the tape, then you'll find out.
ESB
elizabeth & chris
STRATQUEEN wrote:
Awww, he's just jealous cause we get all the lesbians.
ESB
Brian Rost
> >It's hard to find info and try one out though, it's something you
> >don't just see sitting at Sam Ash ready to play!
That's a real problem with most high-end stuff. First, you need to find
a dealer, then the selection is bound to be pretty limited. Here in
Boston, we have access to a lot of cool high-end stuff, but even here
there are lots of things that are impossible to find hanging on the
wall, Kleins being one of them.
As a Steinberger user, I've been long interested in Kleins but will
probably never have a chance to try one out unless I buy it first 8^(
--
Brian Rost
3Com Corp.
978-264-1550
br...@synnet.com
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Jack A. Zucker
>Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
Why is everyone so obsessed with using a guitar/amp combination that
EVERYONE ELSE uses!
I guess if you're in a classic rock / cover band you will want to play a
Strat/Les Paul through a Fender/Marshall but whatever happened to
originality?
Thank God for Jimi Hendrix who had the courage to try something different.
You guys sound like a bunch of old ladies!
I can just picture you guys sneering at Charlie Christian who had the nerve
to use an amplified guitar !
-Jaz
Jay Vyas
In article <6km4gk$l30$1...@news.gwis.com> "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@gwis.com> writes:
>Carlginger wrote in message >
>
>
>>Mark Farner is playing one because of it's light weight.
>>
>>Carl
>
>Wasn't Mark the first Rock star who worked out ? What happened ?
I believe he had a splipped disc or something like that in his back. He
had to go with a light guitar because of that.
Thanks ... Jay
Joe Bac
Well Jaz, I'm glad you took the time for all this. You saved me and
moreso others some hassel. But as for me, Parker never got my attention
to begin with.
Cheers.
Carl Christensen
On Fri, 29 May 1998 16:01:14 -0400, Brian Rost <br...@synnet.com>
wrote:
>there are lots of things that are impossible to find hanging on the
>wall, Kleins being one of them.
One of the few guitars I bought sight unseen and is a "keeper" is a
Godin ACS nylon-string solidbody. Usually I have to try a guitar out
for awhile before I buy it (if it's a "keeper", I buy a lot of guitars
"untried" and then sell them a few months later). But there's a
psychological difference between a $700 Godin and a $2500 Klein that I
really want to be a "keeper" because resale value will be bad most
likely and it's a specialized instrument.
>As a Steinberger user, I've been long interested in Kleins but will
>probably never have a chance to try one out unless I buy it first 8^(
I was thinking of that but I haven't really seen too many Steinbergers
in Philly. I really like the sound Steve Howe gets out of his
Steinbergers on the "Not Necessarily Acoustic" album; it has a nice
sound suitable for my fingerpicking style I think. I like the Klein
though because it's supposed to be ergonomic and nice to play sitting
or standing. The Steinberger doesn't seem to be friendly to play
while sitting in classical position with a footstool, which is how I
practice. Well, the Ovation was just ludicrous to play that way and
I'm glad I sold them even though I took a bath on the prices. My
Tele, Godin, and dobro are pretty fine for now.
evil twin®
On 29 May 1998 11:44:51 GMT, lo...@staff.uiuc.edu (Matthew Ivaliotes)
wrote:
>ha...@primary.net (evil twin) writes:
>>On Fri, 29 May 1998 00:10:40 GMT, Zorro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
>>Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
>
>PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on stage
>many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.
I don't need to get out more - you need to learn what a successful
musician is.
BYE!
PS - PRS SUX!
evil twin®
On 29 May 1998 14:26:19 GMT, sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
><<Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
>
>Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
>>>
>
>
>PRS?!
>
>David Grissom
SUX!
>Alec Lifeson
yawn. He used to be kinda kewl though.
>Carlos Santana
Everybody knows the pre-PRS Santana was better.
>Tommy Johnston
Never heard of him. Does he suck too?
>ahhh...you're just tweakin' us anyway.
YEP!
BYE!
evil twin®
On 29 May 1998 15:22:19 GMT, strat...@aol.com (STRATQUEEN) wrote:
>Matt wrote:
>
><<PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on stage
>many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.>>
>
>I love Jen Turner's PRS tone on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily". Very, very
>nice......
A strat would've sounded better.
BYE!
evil twin®
On 29 May 1998 15:00:42 GMT, lo...@staff.uiuc.edu (Matthew Ivaliotes)
wrote:
>I just find it a dorky classification. Who gives a rat's ass what the
>musician's religion is?
Christians? I think they feel guilty if they listen to real rock
music.
>Either they have talent and something to say or they don't.
A lot of them have something to say, but no talent. And the rest of
don't want to hear what they have to say anyway.
>I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
>and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.
ME TOO!
BYE!
SEFSTRAT
><<Well...I dunno. Perhaps you could make one disappear.....>>
>
>Are you speaking from your "personal observations" last March,, or generally?
Personal observation, of course. Michael didn;t stand in front of you the
WHOLE time, you know.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
>and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.>>
Amen.
BTW...wanna assure that a kid'll be a heavy meatl freak? Make him listen to
ONLY Christian music! It seems like a disproportionate amount of that stuff is
around now, as opposed to the old Amy Grant soft rock types.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<I'm interested in hearing more about Klein. I've been thinking of a
custom guitar project; either a Suhr Tele or a Klein. I think I
deserve one by now.
It's hard to find info and try one out though, it's something you
don't just see sitting at Sam Ash ready to play! Has anybody ever
done a review? I'm especially interested in the Klein with the Barden
pickups>>
I know someone who has opne and raves about it....I've forwarded your post to
him.
BTW, he sometimes calls it the "lima bean on a stick"!
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<I can just picture you guys sneering at Charlie Christian who had the nerve
to use an amplified guitar !>>
I'm STILL pissed off about that.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<I don't need to get out more - you need to learn what a successful
musician is.>>
Yeah......when Carlos Santana REALLY makes it, then we'll know.
Steve
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
<<>Tommy Johnston
Never heard of him. Does he suck too?>>
Can you say "Doobie Brothers"?
SEFSTRAT
SEFSTRAT
STRATQUEEN wrote:
<<>I love Jen Turner's PRS tone on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily". Very, very
>nice......
EvilTwin wrote:
<<A strat would've sounded better.>>
We NEED to have a jam session. Just so everyone can smack you with their PRSs.
No, wait. You might LIKE that too much......
Steve
SEFSTRAT
Matthew Ivaliotes
ha...@primary.net (evil twin) writes:
>A strat would've sounded better.
You misspelled 'thinner.' Hope this helps.
BYE!
Matt I.
Matthew Ivaliotes
ha...@primary.net (evil twin) writes:
>Christians? I think they feel guilty if they listen to real rock
>music.
Good point.
>A lot of them have something to say, but no talent. And the rest of
>don't want to hear what they have to say anyway.
Another good point.
>>I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
>>and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.
>ME TOO!
>BYE!
Hehe.
BYE!
Matt I.
Matthew Ivaliotes
ha...@primary.net (evil twin) writes:
>I don't need to get out more - you need to learn what a successful
>musician is.
You need to get enough self-confidence to go after your own sound and stip
giving a squirt what someone else is playing the first place.
The MAN is clearly keeping you down.
Matt 'funny, I always thought Santana was considered successful' I.
J. Douglas Robinson
On 29 May 1998 23:21:13 GMT, sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
><<I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
>>and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.>>
>
>Amen.
>
>BTW...wanna assure that a kid'll be a heavy meatl freak? Make him listen to
>ONLY Christian music! It seems like a disproportionate amount of that stuff is
>around now, as opposed to the old Amy Grant soft rock types.
>
>Steve
>SEFSTRAT
I am jumping in the middle of this thread. I missed where it went
from Parker Fly's to Christian musicians. Actually, I kinda like
listening to Mark Farner and Phil Keaggy. Music has been used to
convey messages, secular, christian, anti-everything, etc. for ages.
I let my kids listen to everything and made them aware of the
different messages in music. I am happy to say that they don't listen
to Satanism, Christian, or Disco. They actually like what I like!
Regards,
Doug
Chuck Stroud
Gee, looks like someone is jealous cause they can't afford a PRS. If you
need a donation, let me know. I hate to see ignorance take over someones
life.
evil twinŽ wrote in message <357733de...@news.primary.net>...
>On 29 May 1998 14:26:19 GMT, sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
>
>><<Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
>>>practice? I've never seen one being played, even on TV just for 'effect'.
>>>I've never seen one anywhere except hanging on the wall of a music store.
>>
>>Again! That sounds just like a PRS...
>>>>
>>
>>
>>PRS?!
>>
>>David Grissom
>
>SUX!
>
>>Alec Lifeson
>
>yawn. He used to be kinda kewl though.
>
>>Carlos Santana
>
>Everybody knows the pre-PRS Santana was better.
>
>>Tommy Johnston
>
>Never heard of him. Does he suck too?
>
Chuck Stroud
>
>Yeah......when Carlos Santana REALLY makes it, then we'll know.
>
>Steve
>SEFSTRAT
Yeah, or David Grissom. Or Alex Lifeson. I guess they are not real
guitarists, just imaginary. ET needs to get with the program.
Chuck Stroud
evil twinŽ wrote in message <357a34e9...@news.primary.net>...
>On 29 May 1998 15:22:19 GMT, strat...@aol.com (STRATQUEEN) wrote:
>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>><<PRS has plenty of successful musician customers. I've seen them on
stage
>>many many times. If you haven't, you need to get out more.>>
>>
>>I love Jen Turner's PRS tone on Natalie Merchant's "Tigerlily". Very,
very
>>nice......
>
>A strat would've sounded better.
Hendrix had a great Strat sound...when it was on fire or being smashed into
a million pieces.
Greg Peterson
SEFSTRAT <sefs...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199805292318...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> <<I don't need to get out more - you need to learn what a successful
> musician is.>>
>
>
> Yeah......when Carlos Santana REALLY makes it, then we'll know.
>
> Steve
> SEFSTRAT
Carlos who?
Zorro...@hotmail.com
In article <199805291424...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
>
> <<IMO, they are a novelty guitar. Who in the world plays one of these
> professionally ? Has any artist recorded with one so that one can hear it in
> practice?>>
>
> Jimmy Olander, of Diamond Rio. Hot p,ayer.
>
> Steve
> SEFSTRAT
>
Not the last time I saw them live a few months ago. He was then playing a
Tele through a Matchless the entire gig. Maybe he alternates...
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Ilkka Sorsa
Steve (qu...@sprintmail.com) wrote:
: Too UGLY!!!!!!!!!
What's not?
My hall of fame:
Parker Fly
-At last something that is in full balance by design. Perfect, except
that one can't play when sitting. ;)
Fender Stratocaster
-Because I play one :)
Gibson Explorer
-Best of those with weird bodies.
--
Hall of...
Gibson Les Paul.
-Nothing but a cutaway hollow body shrunk a bit. Not too much innovation
there. (And thread goes on.. ;)
Almost all of designs done by small companies.
-May sound like a dream but looks like..
--
-Ipe
[ http://www.kyamk.fi/~y95silso/mp3/eindex.html ]
Stratoman6
>David Grissom<
>SUX!<
You mustof been on Viagra when posting this.... Dave Grissom is a mutha!!!!
Regards,
Stratoman
" Gonna make pretty womens jump and shout..." Don't you know Muddy Waters
invented 'lectricity?
Stratoman6
>Yes, but in the way of WHAT........<
In the way of the other??
Stratoman6
>A strat would've sounded better.<
No a Strat DOES sound better...
Marzzz
Sefstrat wrote:
>>I know someone who has one and raves about it....I've forwarded your post to
him. BTW, he sometimes calls it the "lima bean on a stick"!<<
Actually, I believe Pat Metheny is the one who originated that phrase. Unusual
shape, yes........until you play one!
Marzzz
Brian Rost wrote:
>>As a Steinberger user, I've been long interested in Kleins but will
probably never have a chance to try one out unless I buy it first 8^(<<
You are wrong, lima-bean-on-a-stick breath!
Talk to Lorenzo German at Klein Guitars, 925-516-9338, and he may be able to
arrange a demo where he sends you a Klein for a week or so in exchange for a
(refundable) deposit. I also used to be a Steinberger player......
Patrick F. Coleman
I didn't even know you could buy a christian.
Somehow that seems wrong.
twang!
Patrick F. Coleman
a63s...@NOSPAMdreamscape.com (J. Douglas Robinson) wrote:
>On 29 May 1998 23:21:13 GMT, sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
>><<I wish the 'Christian' musicians would kill the whole genre
>>>and join the rest of humanity in the happy musical collective.>>
>>
>>Amen.
>>
>>BTW...wanna assure that a kid'll be a heavy meatl freak? Make him listen to
>>ONLY Christian music! It seems like a disproportionate amount of that stuff is
>>around now, as opposed to the old Amy Grant soft rock types.
>>
>>Steve
>>SEFSTRAT
>I am jumping in the middle of this thread. I missed where it went
>from Parker Fly's to Christian musicians. Actually, I kinda like
>listening to Mark Farner
Mark Farner went christian? sheesh. where have I been.
Who'd have thought someone produced by Zappa would do that.
>and Phil Keaggy. Music has been used to
>convey messages, secular, christian, anti-everything, etc. for ages.
>I let my kids listen to everything and made them aware of the
>different messages in music. I am happy to say that they don't listen
>to
>""Satanism, Christian, or Disco. ""
> They actually like what I like!
>Regards,
>Doug
Now there's a picture..
Marylin Manson in a gold lame' jock strap singing about jesus in a
disco.
twang!
Carl Christensen
I actually like it, it looks more "user-friendly" than a Steinberger &
Parker at least. Thanks for your help!
--
Carl Christensen
Philadelphia, PA USA
E-mail: ca...@navpoint.com Web: http://www.navpoint.com/~carl
Carl Christensen
On Fri, 29 May 1998 23:56:33 GMT, a63s...@NOSPAMdreamscape.com (J.
Douglas Robinson) wrote:
>different messages in music. I am happy to say that they don't listen
>to Satanism, Christian, or Disco. They actually like what I like!
I don't think it's fair to disco to lump it in as a religion!
:-)
Milan Plechata
On Fri, 29 May 1998 13:24:16 -0400, Ron Thompson
<thom...@admin.tc.faa.gov> wrote:
>Matthew Ivaliotes wrote:
>> Gibson is hardly the
>> hallmark of price/performance.
>
>Hes right you know. テnder is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
>
>--
>rct
>
>The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
Milan Plechata
On 30 May 98 03:39:40 GMT, y95s...@kyamk.fi (Ilkka Sorsa) wrote:
>Hall of...
>
>Gibson Les Paul.
>-Nothing but a cutaway hollow body shrunk a bit. Not too much innovation
>there. (And thread goes on.. ;)
What planet is that on? Les Pauls are not hollow bodies.
Milan
Milan Plechata
On 30 May 1998 00:11:17 GMT, strat...@aol.com (Stratoman6) wrote:
>>David Grissom<
>
>>SUX!<
>
>You mustof been on Viagra when posting this.... Dave Grissom is a mutha!!!!
>Regards,
Preach on!
Milan
evil twin®
On 29 May 1998 23:18:45 GMT, sefs...@aol.com (SEFSTRAT) wrote:
><<>Tommy Johnston
>
>Never heard of him. Does he suck too?>>
>
>
>Can you say "Doobie Brothers"?
I can. Talking is fun.
evil twin®
>
>
>>
>>Yeah......when Carlos Santana REALLY makes it, then we'll know.
>>
>>Steve
>>SEFSTRAT
>
>Yeah, or David Grissom
He blows.
>. Or Alex Lifeson. I guess they are not real
>guitarists, just imaginary. ET needs to get with the program.
Never. Why does it seem like all the guys you name played something
else when they were at their peak and only switched to PRS when they
started to suck?
evil twin®
On 30 May 1998 00:11:17 GMT, strat...@aol.com (Stratoman6) wrote:
>>David Grissom<
>
>>SUX!<
>
>You mustof been on Viagra when posting this.... Dave Grissom is a mutha!!!!
I'm not on viagra. He's boring. REALLY boring. All I have to do is
turn on the local shit radio station if I want to hear thirty guys
that sound just like him.
evil twin®
>Gee, looks like someone is jealous cause they can't afford a PRS.
Wrong. That comment comes straight from the PRS stooge book, but it
won't work on me. If I wanted one I'd buy one. Well, actually if I
wanted that I'd buy a Hamer or a TCM.
>If you
>need a donation, let me know. I hate to see ignorance take over someones
>life.
That's an interesting statement for a PRS owner to make.