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Kirk Anderson

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Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".
Likely suspects so far:

--"Mr Tambourine Man" or another Byrds number
--"Hard Day's Night" and "I Call Your Name"
--"I Can't Explain" or perhaps another Who song
--"Up Around the Bend" by Creedence
--Petty's "The Waiting" or maybe "Refugee"
--REM "Radio Free Europe" or "Superman"
--something by the Bangles? (but what?)

I'd like more suggestions. I'd also like to know if a Rick
was used for the Animals' "House of the Rising Sun" or the
Monkees' "Last Train to Clarksville". Sure sounds like one
to me.

Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.

kirk

Tormod Eikill

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I thing the intro on "Ticket to ride" is played on a Rick.

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Charles Held

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In article <4cd4oa$h...@anarchy.io.com>, kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:
=Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".
=--"I Can't Explain" or perhaps another Who song

Substitute

=--Petty's "The Waiting" or maybe "Refugee"

Here Comes My Girl, American Girl

=--REM "Radio Free Europe" or "Superman"

Pretty Persuasion

=--something by the Bangles? (but what?)

Going Down to Liverpool

Len Moskowitz

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In article <4cejc6$j...@disney.ucc>, Paul R. Piotrowski <pio...@mtu.edu> wrote:

>Now, what am I forgetting?

Since Kirk didn't say Rick "guitar" songs, we should probably include
some "Yes" songs with the Rick bass. How about "Roundabout?"

--
Len Moskowitz
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RIchard T. C. Pickles

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jac...@elsun345.cc.purdue.edu (David Jacoby) wrote:

>In article <4cd4oa$h...@anarchy.io.com>, Kirk Anderson <kand...@io.com> wrote:
>>Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".

>>Likely suspects so far:


>>
>>Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.
>

>Behind the Wall of Sleep, the Smithereens.

>It doesn't sound jangly, which says something about the versatility of
>those wonderful instruments.

Plus a lot of Tom Petty stuff


Steve Triggs

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How about " Cryin' Shame " by the Mavericks
" A Hard Day's Night " the Beatles

Len Moskowitz

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In article <4cd4oa$h...@anarchy.io.com>, Kirk Anderson <kand...@io.com>
wrote:

>Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker
songs".

I'd like a copy! If you'd like, I'll do it on DAT.

The UK's Radio One network did a special program on the Rickenbacker.
The show had some of the most famous Rick songs. I have it (a poor
quality dub unfortunately) and will try to remember to take down the
song titles.

>Likely suspects so far:
>
>--"Mr Tambourine Man" or another Byrds number

"My Back Pages" and "Turn, Turn, Turn"

>--"Hard Day's Night" and "I Call Your Name"

"Ticket To Ride"

>--"I Can't Explain" or perhaps another Who song

>--"Up Around the Bend" by Creedence

>--Petty's "The Waiting" or maybe "Refugee"

>--REM "Radio Free Europe" or "Superman"

>--something by the Bangles? (but what?)

Something by The Pretenders (perhaps "2000 Miles") and Johnny Marr.
George Harrison's "Fish On The Sand."

David Jacoby

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In article <4cd4oa$h...@anarchy.io.com>, Kirk Anderson <kand...@io.com> wrote:
>Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".
>Likely suspects so far:
>
>Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.

Behind the Wall of Sleep, the Smithereens.

It doesn't sound jangly, which says something about the versatility of
those wonderful instruments.

--Dave
"Now I lie in bed and think of her
sometimes I even weep
and I dream of her behind the wall of sleep"


Paul R. Piotrowski

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Kirk Anderson (kand...@io.com) wrote:
: Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".
:
: Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.
:

My choices are:

Byrds: Feel a Whole Lot Better / My Back Pages

Beatles: Ticket to Ride / I Should Have Known Better

Tom Petty: The Waiting / Here Comes My Girl / Rebels

REM: So. Central Rain / Fall On Me / I Believe

Bangles: If He Knew What She Wants

Rembrandts: I'll be There for You

Jefferson_Airplane: Somebody to Love

The Who: Can't Explain

The Byrds: Eight Miles High / Turn Turn Turn

Mary Chapin Carpenter: He Thinks He'll Keep Her / Passionate Kisses

Steppenwolfe: Born to Be Wild / Magic Carpet Ride

Moody Blues: Go Now


Now, what am I forgetting?

Paul

Jim Holloway

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In article <4cecso$d...@panix3.panix.com>, mosk...@panix.com (Len
Moskowitz) wrote:


>
> >--"Hard Day's Night" and "I Call Your Name"
>
> "Ticket To Ride"

How about "You Can't Do That"?

Daniel Stanley

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mosk...@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) wrote:
>
>In article <4cejc6$j...@disney.ucc>, Paul R. Piotrowski <pio...@mtu.edu>
wrote:
>
>>Now, what am I forgetting?
>
>Since Kirk didn't say Rick "guitar" songs, we should probably include
>some "Yes" songs with the Rick bass. How about "Roundabout?"
>
>--
>Len Moskowitz
>mosk...@panix.com

If bass counts, The Beatles " Paperback Writer" has to be included.
Unless of course a Rick wasn't used on it...I am pretty sure I read an
article that said it was.

D. STANLEY
nsl...@prodigy.com
" Truth is not confusion" - XXXXX


Tormod Eikill

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What about "Turn Turn Turn" by The Byrds

and "Baby, you're a rich man" by The Beatles (listen to the sound of
Paul's bass here)

Tormod Eikill

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In article <4cejc6$j...@disney.ucc>, pio...@mtu.edu (Paul R. Piotrowski) wrote:


> Now, what am I forgetting?
>

> Paul
>
>
>
>
The Creedence CR songs.

swa...@netcom.com

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Kirk Anderson (kand...@io.com) wrote:
: Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".


For REM songs I'd pick "Wolves, Lower," "Pretty Persuasion" and "Time
After Time", where the guitar is prominent and the tone really stands
out. ("Wolves" is the song that inspired me to get my Rick 330).

For Who songs, "I Cant Explain" and "The Kids Are Alright."

Beatles: "Hard Day's Night," "Ticket to Ride," "You Cant Do That"

Bangles song: "Hero Takes a Fall."

Tom Petty, like "Refugee" or "Listen to Her Heart."


Didnt Johnny Marr in the Smiths use Ricks? (I thought I read that --
and it sounds like it could be on "Girl Afraid.")

I also recently saw a Collective Soul video somewhere and there was a
closeup of an R tailpiece on a jetglo guitar ...


On that Monkees song, it's hard to know what kind of guitar it was, since
you dont even know who played on that song (it wasnt Nesmith or Tork).


You should post your final list when you get it.


Will

Beau Randall

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kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:

>I'd like more suggestions. I'd also like to know if a Rick
>was used for the Animals' "House of the Rising Sun" or the
>Monkees' "Last Train to Clarksville". Sure sounds like one
>to me.
>

>Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.
>

>kirk


How about all the Fugazi stuff? Sorry, couldn't help myself, it's
just so funny to see a Rick being used to coax strange feedback out of
an amp. Just goes to show that perhaps these guitars are more versatile
than most people think.

Len Moskowitz

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In article <4cejc6$j...@disney.ucc>, Paul R. Piotrowski <pio...@mtu.edu>
wrote:

>My choices are:


>
> Byrds: Feel a Whole Lot Better / My Back Pages

Eight Miles High

> The Who: Can't Explain

Kids Are Alright
My Generation
Anyhow, Anyway, Anywhere (Is this the real title?)

>Now, what am I forgetting?

Pretenders: Message of Love

Lots by Paul Weller (The Jam)

Mr. Snakey

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Paul R. Piotrowski wrote:
>
> Kirk Anderson (kand...@io.com) wrote:
> : Just for fun, I'd like to make myself a tape of "great Rickenbacker songs".
> :
> : Winning entries will be sincerely thanked.

> :
>
> My choices are:
>
> Byrds: Feel a Whole Lot Better / My Back Pages
>
> Beatles: Ticket to Ride / I Should Have Known Better
>
> Tom Petty: The Waiting / Here Comes My Girl / Rebels
>
> REM: So. Central Rain / Fall On Me / I Believe
>

Also: Driver 8 and Radio Free Europe.

> The Who: Can't Explain

Don't forget: Pictures of Lily and The Kids are Alright.

>
> The Byrds: Eight Miles High / Turn Turn Turn

And: the one that goes "I was so much older then, I'm younger
than that now" (title escapes me).
>

> Now, what am I forgetting?

How 'bout the Hollies: Bus Stop, and Look Through any Window.

Note: I don't know for sure that the Hollies used a Ric,
but they're great 12-string songs, anyway.

Sean
>
> Paul
>
>

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Carl Christensen

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Beau Randall (bjra...@sdcc10.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: How about all the Fugazi stuff? Sorry, couldn't help myself, it's
: just so funny to see a Rick being used to coax strange feedback out of
: an amp. Just goes to show that perhaps these guitars are more versatile
: than most people think.

Ummm, well they are! Just because people think of the Byrds, the
Bangles, and the Beatles when it comes to Rickenbackers doesn't mean
they're just good for jangly pop songs. I've seen jazz players use 360's
(I think Toots Thieleman does or used to), and I myself used a 12-string
and 6-str Rick in a progressive rock band (of course Genesis and Yes used
them long before me, guitars and bass, so I can't take credit for that).

Of course, the hoi-polloi of the guitars newsgroups will tell you
otherwise, but they should be practicing with their no-name tube
amps and vintage guitars instead of writing so much on these newsgroups!
People should just try them and see if they like them and not worry if
some asshole on a Usenet group says it's not good for so-and-so's style
of music...

--

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George H

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pio...@mtu.edu (Paul R. Piotrowski) writes:

>My choices are:

:

> Jefferson_Airplane: Somebody to Love

>Now, what am I forgetting?

Personally, my fave Airplane Rick tunes are "High Flying Bird" and
"She Has Funny Cars"


Junipero Gaw

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On 3 Jan 1996, Paul R. Piotrowski wrote:
> Now, what am I forgetting?
>
> Paul
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Junipero Gaw

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On 3 Jan 1996, Daniel Stanley wrote:
>
> If bass counts, The Beatles " Paperback Writer" has to be included.
> Unless of course a Rick wasn't used on it...I am pretty sure I read an
> article that said it was.

If bass counts, put on half of the Rush catalog.

Len Moskowitz

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I <mosk...@panix.com> wrote:

>Anyhow, Anyway, Anywhere (Is this the real title?)

Let's try again: "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere"

>>Now, what am I forgetting?

Bangles: September Gurls
Not Like You
(neither are really strong Rick-sound songs)

Charles Held

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In article <30EBFF...@sdrc.com>, "Mr. Snakey" <sean....@sdrc.com> wrote:
->Paul R. Piotrowski wrote:
->> The Byrds: Eight Miles High / Turn Turn Turn
->
->And: the one that goes "I was so much older then, I'm younger
->than that now" (title escapes me).

"My Back Pages", originally an acoustic Dylan song.

Mike Healy

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In article <4chcs5$m...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> georgeh@gjhsun (George H) writes:
>pio...@mtu.edu (Paul R. Piotrowski) writes:
>
>>My choices are:
>
> :
>
>> Jefferson_Airplane: Somebody to Love
>
>>Now, what am I forgetting?
>
>Personally, my fave Airplane Rick tunes are "High Flying Bird" and
>"She Has Funny Cars"
>

Who was playing the Rick in the Airplane? Kantner? Jorma? both?

Mike Healy

he...@nosc.mil


swa...@netcom.com

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We forgot songs by the Jam. Like "In the City" or "In the Crowd" or
"Away from the Numbers" or "Tonight at Noon." Those early, mashing Jam
records have a little bit nastier a sound than I think most people
associate with Ricks.

Will

Shawn McDermott

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Here's a blast from the past--

How about "Kicks" by Paul Revere and the Raiders?
The intro just DRIPS with the Ricky 12-String!

Or "Hey Joe" by the Leaves

and George H's "If I Needed Someone"--most folks
think that was a Fender electric mandolin, but
George just capo'd his 360-12.

BTW, I saw Pete Townshend smash a Rick 12-string
at the Marquee Club in London (I think it was on
Wardour Street) in 1965...about a 2000 square ft.
club that cost 10 Shillings (about $1.40!!) to
get into. Hell of a bar band, IMHO. :-)

Shawn
1994 Rickenbacker 325JL #501/2000
1992 Rickenbacker 360-12 mapleglo/white/chrome
1994 Warmoth Custom flame-top Strat
1972 Martin D28
1994 Martin Backpacker
1965 Fender Blackface Deluxe

Charles Held

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In article <Pine.BSI.3.91.960104...@shell.quick.net>,
Junipero Gaw <strt...@quick.net> wrote:
=
=If bass counts, put on half of the Rush catalog.

Uh, he did say "great".

George H

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When I saw them, it was just Kantner on the 12-string

Moses Oakland

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pio...@mtu.edu (Paul R. Piotrowski) wrote:

(long list deleted)

>Now, what am I forgetting?
>

>Paul
>
>
The Byrds: My (The?? Your?? I can't remember) World Turns all around Her

Leonard
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David Jacoby

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, Kirk Anderson <kand...@io.com> wrote:
>Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.
>A tracklist is slowly taking shape here.
>Thanks to all for the ideas!
>Did John Kay always use a Rickenbacker? 'cause it
>would be a kick to include "Born to Be Wild",
>not most people's idea of a Rick-based song!

>Sorry, I don't like the Smiths. Maybe with a different
>singer.

"Oscilate Wildely." Instrumental. No singer at all. Is *THAT*
different enough?

>kirk

--Dave

Kirk Anderson

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Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.
A tracklist is slowly taking shape here.
Thanks to all for the ideas!
Did John Kay always use a Rickenbacker? 'cause it
would be a kick to include "Born to Be Wild",
not most people's idea of a Rick-based song!

The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are
on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker
anywhere. Does someone have specific knowledge on this?

I'd be surprised if George Thorogood qualified. ISn't
he usually playing a big hollow body Gretsch or some such?
I've never seen a photo of him playing a Rick.

Jefferson Airplane: I wonder if "Somebody to Love" really
belongs here. First I'll have to get my hands on a copy.
There's no Airplane in my collection.

Sorry, I don't like the Smiths. Maybe with a different
singer.

Has anyone out there spotted an old film of the Animals playing
"House of the Rising Sun" on television? What kind of guitar
was it doing those arpeggios?

I'll be back when the dust settles and post my picks
(as requested).

kirk

David Jacoby

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In article <4cjovg$9...@ibbr.ib.be>,
Marek (aka Josh) <sandor.a...@infoboard.be> wrote:
>I believe that George Thorogood uses Rickenbackers for all his songs...
>so you might want to consider the songs "Bad to the Bone" and "Get a
>Haircut".

I could be wrong, but I believe he uses a big ole' hollowbody,
like what Ted Nugent uses. BUT, I don't have a record near me
with that info on it, so I can't say for sure.
>hasta la pasta,
> -Josh

--Dave
"Bad to the Bone"

David Jacoby

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In article <4ci9ja$q...@panix3.panix.com>,
Len Moskowitz <mosk...@panix.com> wrote:

>I <mosk...@panix.com> wrote:

>Bangles: September Gurls
> Not Like You
>(neither are really strong Rick-sound songs)

September Gurls is a Big Star song. I'll listen again, but I don't
think it was a ric song for them.

>Len Moskowitz

--Dave
"In spite of her amputation
She could dance to a rock&roll station
It was all right" (NOT a ric song)

Bloomvox

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>Sorry, I don't like the Smiths. Maybe with a different
>singer.

"Oscilate Wildely." Instrumental. No singer at all. Is *THAT*
different enough?

>kirk

Actually, Johnny Marr rarely used Rickenbackers for his studio work (or
live work for that matter). The vast majority of Smiths songs use
Telecasters. Live he has been known to use Telecasters and Gretschs.

Just to clarify...

(Personally, I play a Telecaster for that wonderful jangly effect--
richer, and not as tinny.)

brendan o'mahony

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:

> Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.

> I'll be back when the dust settles and post my picks
> (as requested).
>

Kirk

Can't help you on a lot of your questions but I think the Animals used a
Gretsch on 'House of the Rising Sun' and I believe that George Harrison
used a Rickenbacker on 'I Feel Fine', which nobody else has mentioned -
although I am open to correction! on the last one. Most of the songs from
the 'Byrds Greatest Hits' would fit OK in your top ten, especially those
from side one!

Bren

Marek (aka Josh)

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I believe that George Thorogood uses Rickenbackers for all his songs...
so you might want to consider the songs "Bad to the Bone" and "Get a
Haircut".

hasta la pasta,
-Josh

George4908

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I won't swear to it 30 years after the fact, but my memory tells me that
the Animal's version of "House of the Rising Sun" was played on a Vox.

Charles Held

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In article <4ciqvo$c...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
jac...@expert.cc.purdue.edu (David Jacoby) wrote:
->>Bangles: September Gurls
->> Not Like You
->>(neither are really strong Rick-sound songs)
->
->September Gurls is a Big Star song. I'll listen again, but I don't
->think it was a ric song for them.

Yeah, the Bangles (nee Bangs, btw, before their name was "sanitized") nicked
Alex Chilton, Katrina Rew *and* Mr. P. R. Nelson <g>.

The montage on the inside of "All Over the Place" shows Susanna with a Tele,
Vicki with an LP Standard and some big semi-hollow with trapeze
tailpiece and 6-on-a-side tuners, and a Strat suspended in space <g>.

Charles Held

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:
->The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are
->on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker
->anywhere.

I didn't think that sounded right either - Chrissie has always been a Tele-oid
and James Honeymann-Scott played a 'Paul. Don't know about any of the
guitarists since...

->I'd be surprised if George Thorogood qualified. ISn't
->he usually playing a big hollow body Gretsch or some such?

Yes...either a Gretsch or a P90-equipped ES series.

->I've never seen a photo of him playing a Rick.

He strikes me as the type to go "harumph - janglyassshitguitar" <g>.

Neal Winslow

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:

>Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.

>A tracklist is slowly taking shape here.
>Thanks to all for the ideas!

>kirk

HEY, did everone forget Creedance Clearwater Rivival?
Most of those catchy John Fogarty riffs came from a Rick 6 string.
Definately not jangly, though.

Neal

Mike Ellenberger

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kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:
>Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.
>A tracklist is slowly taking shape here.
>Thanks to all for the ideas!
>Did John Kay always use a Rickenbacker? 'cause it
>would be a kick to include "Born to Be Wild",
>not most people's idea of a Rick-based song!

At the time I thought John Kay was using a Telecaster but no proof of this.

>
>The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are

>on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker

>anywhere. Does someone have specific knowledge on this?


>Has anyone out there spotted an old film of the Animals playing
>"House of the Rising Sun" on television? What kind of guitar
>was it doing those arpeggios?

Gretch was popular then that's what I thought was used. Interested in
finding out thought.

Mike


swa...@netcom.com

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Kirk Anderson (kand...@io.com) wrote:
: Okay, I'm back, the guy who started all this.
: A tracklist is slowly taking shape here.
: Thanks to all for the ideas!
: Did John Kay always use a Rickenbacker? 'cause it
: would be a kick to include "Born to Be Wild",
: not most people's idea of a Rick-based song!

As far as I've read, yes. He played Ricks because they had the best
action of any guitar around. Every photo I've seen of him in the late
60s he's playing a 381.

: The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are


: on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker
: anywhere. Does someone have specific knowledge on this?

2000 miles and Back on the Chain Gang sound like they have Rick
12-strings on them. The only guitar I've ever seen Chrissie play is a
Telecaster. It could have been the other guitarist.

: I'd be surprised if George Thorogood qualified. ISn't
: he usually playing a big hollow body Gretsch or some such?
: I've never seen a photo of him playing a Rick.

I always thought it was a big old Gibson hollowbody (but I've never
looked closely).

: Jefferson Airplane: I wonder if "Somebody to Love" really


: belongs here. First I'll have to get my hands on a copy.
: There's no Airplane in my collection.

: Sorry, I don't like the Smiths. Maybe with a different
: singer.

I agree. Great guitar player, lousy singer. I suggested "Girl Afraid"
because it's mostly guitar.

Will

swa...@netcom.com

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Charles Held (ch...@clt.mindspring.com) wrote:

: I didn't think that sounded right either - Chrissie has always been a Tele-oid

: and James Honeymann-Scott played a 'Paul. Don't know about any of the
: guitarists since...

James Honeyman-Scott had died by the time she recorded "2000 Miles" and
"Back on the Chain Gang." I dont know fer sure, but both songs sound
like they have 12-strings on em. It was just a guess on my part.

Will

Tormod Eikill

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> HEY, did everone forget Creedance Clearwater Rivival?
> Most of those catchy John Fogarty riffs came from a Rick 6 string.
> Definately not jangly, though.
>
> Neal

Yes, as I have written before, CCR used Rickenbacker. I am convinced that
the opening riff on "Green River" (great song!!) is played on a Rick.

John Kay played a 381, I think. I've seen a picture of Steppenwolf with
only Rickenbacker guitars (and Rick amps too!)

But the problem is that Rickenbacker always have been the number 1 posing
guitar. So if you see an artist with a Rickenbacker on a record cover, you
can never be sure if he's actually using it on the record.

But Steppenwolf used Ricks.
So did The Who
and Byrds
and Beatles
and Yes (Chris Squire)
and Smithereens
and of course Tom Petty and Mike Campbell

--
Tormod Eikill
Riiser-Larsens gate 15, 4019 Stavanger, NORWAY
----------------------------------------------
RICKENBACKER 360 * SQUIER TELECASTER * FENDER TWIN REVERB
BSA A10 SUPER ROCKET '61

Len Moskowitz

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, Kirk Anderson <kand...@io.com> wrote:

>The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are
>on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker
>anywhere. Does someone have specific knowledge on this?

Their "Singles" video has the Rick on one song.

David Jacoby

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>But the problem is that Rickenbacker always have been the number 1 posing
>guitar. So if you see an artist with a Rickenbacker on a record cover, you
>can never be sure if he's actually using it on the record.

>But Steppenwolf used Ricks.
...


>and of course Tom Petty and Mike Campbell

Yeah, but I mostly see Tom with a Tele. I got the tele because of
Pirner, Springsteen and Cropper, but it's nice to know someone else
I like uses one.

--Dave, who'd like a Rick but will wait until he's better off
"It breaks my heart
to see those stars
Smashing their perfectly good guitars"

David Jacoby

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>->>Bangles: September Gurls
>->> Not Like You
>->>(neither are really strong Rick-sound songs)

>->September Gurls is a Big Star song. I'll listen again, but I don't
>->think it was a ric song for them.

>Yeah, the Bangles (nee Bangs, btw, before their name was "sanitized") nicked
>Alex Chilton, Katrina Rew *and* Mr. P. R. Nelson <g>.

>The montage on the inside of "All Over the Place" shows Susanna with a Tele,
>Vicki with an LP Standard and some big semi-hollow with trapeze
>tailpiece and 6-on-a-side tuners, and a Strat suspended in space <g>.

Yeah, but Suzanna Hoffs was always wearing a Rick as big as she was
in the videos. I roadied a gig for them once and I think she used a
Rick live, too.

--Dave


Mike Rejsa

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Don't leave out "I Can See For Miles", the original icepick-in-ear tone!
(The Who)

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
/* mi...@primenet.com "Less is more..." */
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Art Cohen

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In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com> kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) writes:

>Jefferson Airplane: I wonder if "Somebody to Love" really
>belongs here. First I'll have to get my hands on a copy.
>There's no Airplane in my collection.

Paul Kantner, the rhythm guitarist for Jefferson Airplane played a
Rickenbacker. Jorma Kaukonen, the lead guitarist played a Gibson ES345.
Kantner's playing is mixed pretty low, so I wouldn't characterize any Airplane
songs as being examples of the Rick sound.

Peace
Art


Gene Fornario

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In article <4ch1hb$6...@netaxs.com> ca...@netaxs.com (Carl Christensen) writes:

>Ummm, well they are! Just because people think of the Byrds, the
>Bangles, and the Beatles when it comes to Rickenbackers doesn't mean
>they're just good for jangly pop songs. I've seen jazz players use 360's
>(I think Toots Thieleman does or used to), and I myself used a 12-string

According to Beatles lore, it Toots Thieleman who influenced a young John
Lennon to buy his first Rick, one of the only three sent to Europe. This
was during their touring days in Hamburg.

Gene--


David Jacoby

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In article <4cqg9h$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
Bloomvox <bloo...@aol.com> wrote:
>I think maybe the guys in Motorhead use (or used) Ricks. I know Lemmy
>uses a Rick bass.

Yeah, but I've seen LPs, Flying Vs and Strats in the hands of the
guitarists.

>I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but Peter Buck of R.E.M. always
>used Rick 360's (until MONSTER when he started playing Gibsons). He
>originally got the guitar when he accidentally snapped the neck off his
>Telecaster after a particularly rowdy early gig. He went to a pawn shop
>and picked up a Rick 360 for about $50 and fell in love with it. I know
>many an R.E.M. fan (myself included) who picked up a Rick for that "Peter
>Buck sound" only to become disenchanted with the instrument later for a
>variety of reasons.

He started playing an LP w/ Marshall for Document. He lent the Rick
to Berry for a while during that period.

>Someone mentioned Tom Petty. I thought I saw an old Vox Phantom XII in
>his video for "The Waiting", not a Rick.

Sure, but in the concert video from the _Southern Comfort_ tour,
he used ricks in about everything.

>-Bloomvox

Dave


Paul R. Piotrowski

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David Jacoby (jac...@expert.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: In article <4cqg9h$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
: Bloomvox <bloo...@aol.com> wrote:
:
: >Someone mentioned Tom Petty. I thought I saw an old Vox Phantom XII in

: >his video for "The Waiting", not a Rick.
:
: Sure, but in the concert video from the _Southern Comfort_ tour,
: he used ricks in about everything.
:

You might have seen Mike Campbell with a Vox, but Tom is definately
playing a blond 360. Just saw this video for the first time last
night. :)

Petty and Campbell have tons of guitars, and play them all. When not
using a Rickenbacker or an accoustic, Tom is most often seen with a
blond telecaster. Mike Campbell uses a cherry SG, a gold LP, a black
Rick 325, his famous 620/12, or any of a vast number of semi-hollow
body guitars. I can think of ten different Ricks I've seen Tom playing
on TV. I've seen them with just about every electric 12-string I've
ever heard of including 6/12's.

Paul

Len Moskowitz

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Mark Garvin <mga...@panix.com> wrote:

>This must have been mentioned already, but my favorite Rick 12 tune
>has to be "Eight Miles High". One of the strangest solos ever.
>Has anyone ever duplicated it?

You haven't lived until you see McGuinn do the solo on acoustic
12-string in his solo act!

George H

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I would have thought the same until I saw The Airplane live, where the Rick-12
was a *large* part of their overall sound. Check out the Monterey Pop box set
which has decent live recordings of the 2 tunes I mentioned earlier.

Mark Garvin

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This must have been mentioned already, but my favorite Rick 12 tune
has to be "Eight Miles High". One of the strangest solos ever.
Has anyone ever duplicated it?

Mark Garvin

M

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mosk...@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) wrote:
>Since Kirk didn't say Rick "guitar" songs, we should probably include
>some "Yes" songs with the Rick bass. How about "Roundabout?"
>
Yes? Yuck! Joy Division are a much better example of Rickenbacker bass.
BTW, what Beatles songs had both John and George on Rickenbackers?
From their films, I think "Money Can't Buy Me Love" and "I Should Have
Known Better" were 2 of these.


Bloomvox

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I think maybe the guys in Motorhead use (or used) Ricks. I know Lemmy
uses a Rick bass.

I'm sure someone mentioned this already, but Peter Buck of R.E.M. always


used Rick 360's (until MONSTER when he started playing Gibsons). He
originally got the guitar when he accidentally snapped the neck off his
Telecaster after a particularly rowdy early gig. He went to a pawn shop
and picked up a Rick 360 for about $50 and fell in love with it. I know
many an R.E.M. fan (myself included) who picked up a Rick for that "Peter
Buck sound" only to become disenchanted with the instrument later for a
variety of reasons.

Someone mentioned Tom Petty. I thought I saw an old Vox Phantom XII in


his video for "The Waiting", not a Rick.

-Bloomvox

Jukka Hayrinen

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Older (pre-Green) REM songs?

Tormod Eikill

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I just heard again "Rain", the B-side to Paperback Writer. The Rick sound
there must be one of the most distinguished 6-string Rick sounds ever
recorded.

A comment to the 12-string thing: Many factories made 12-string guitars.
It's very easy to think ­ when you hear a 12-string electric guitar ­
"That's a Rickenbacker". But it doesn't have to be.

--
Tormod Eikill
Riiser-Larsens gt. 15
4019 Stavanger, NORWAY
Rickenbacker 360 * Squier Telecaster * Martin D35 * Fender Twin Rev.
BSA A10 Super Rocket '61

Kirk Anderson

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Both parts of or Tormod Eikill's last post rang true for me:

Tormod Eikill (tei...@telepost.no) wrote:
> I just heard again "Rain", the B-side to Paperback Writer. The Rick sound
> there must be one of the most distinguished 6-string Rick sounds ever
> recorded.

I wasn't aware that a Rickenbacker was used for "Rain", but it
was one of the first songs I played on mine after getting it,
and with a touch of tremelo and a good bassist, it's definitely
a trip! I didn't want the song to end.

>
> A comment to the 12-string thing: Many factories made 12-string guitars.
> It's very easy to think ­ when you hear a 12-string electric guitar ­
> "That's a Rickenbacker". But it doesn't have to be.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking several times while I read this
thread. One example is the recent Rembrandt's hit "I'll be there
for You", which really caught my ear back when it was just a
30-second TV jingle. Their album shows a picture of
a Fender 12-string, which would STRONGLY suggest that what we
hear there is not necessarily a Rickenbacker.

(Companies other than 3M make "scotch" tape, but the original
is still the best.)

kirk

Frank Agnello

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Billy Bremner was the other guitarist on "Chain Gang". Robbie McIntosh on
"2000 Miles". They could've played the 12-string parts. Or maybe it
was Chrissie.

--
Frank Agnello
Agn...@inx.net

Frank Agnello

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Two more artists come to mind. Eric Carmen of the Raspberries (almost all
of their hits); and Andy Partridge of XTC ("Senses Working Overtime" comes
to mind).

--
Frank Agnello
Agn...@inx.net

Kirk Anderson

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Paul R. Piotrowski (pio...@mtu.edu) wrote:
> Kirk Anderson (kand...@io.com) wrote:
> :
> : Tormod Eikill (tei...@telepost.no) wrote:
> :
> : >
> : > A comment to the 12-string thing: Many factories made 12-string guitars.

> : > It's very easy to think ­ when you hear a 12-string electric guitar ­
> : > "That's a Rickenbacker". But it doesn't have to be.
> :
> : Thanks for saying what I was thinking several times while I read this
> : thread. One example is the recent Rembrandt's hit "I'll be there
> : for You", which really caught my ear back when it was just a
> : 30-second TV jingle. Their album shows a picture of
> : a Fender 12-string, which would STRONGLY suggest that what we
> : hear there is not necessarily a Rickenbacker.
> :
> Yes but the album cover was ready to go before the single was released and it
> was tacked on at the last minute. The video, and each time I've seen them
> play it live on a chat show, they used Ricks. In fact, it looked like
> different ones each time. But it does go to show you that you don't have to
> limit yourself to Ricks, even if you are a Rick fanatic.
>
> I find it curious that people want to cut out the songs that don't "sound
> like a Rickenbacker". It is an interesting opposite to folks who say that
> Ricks aren't versatile.
>
> Paul

Joseph Selby

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In article <4cqiqr$k...@luotsi.uku.fi>,
Jukka Hayrinen <hayr...@messi.uku.fi> wrote:
>Older (pre-Green) REM songs?

Oh yes, deffinately. So. Central Rain comes to mind immediately.
Beautiful 12 string Rick sound.

And please, don't anyone get into a debate about whether Pete Buck used a
Rick 12 or not. He has said that if he ever loses that Rick, he will
probably just stop writing songs.
--
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jse...@netcom.com | Some of my best friends are punks.

http://www.dnai.com/~standard/wr

Paul R. Piotrowski

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Joseph Selby

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In article <artcohen.1...@omni.voicenet.com>,

Art Cohen <artc...@omni.voicenet.com> wrote:
>In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com> kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) writes:
>
>>Jefferson Airplane: I wonder if "Somebody to Love" really
>>belongs here. First I'll have to get my hands on a copy.
>>There's no Airplane in my collection.
>
>Paul Kantner, the rhythm guitarist for Jefferson Airplane played a
>Rickenbacker. Jorma Kaukonen, the lead guitarist played a Gibson ES345.
>Kantner's playing is mixed pretty low, so I wouldn't characterize any Airplane
>songs as being examples of the Rick sound.

And if you listen to Jorma tell it, Paul could barely play at all anyway,
so he actually recorded all the guitars on the record.

Josh (aka Marek)

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Per Gessle of Roxette uses Rickenbackers.

hasta la pasta,
-Josh (aka Marek)

"You... you're confused. He's confused you.
It's... it's all very confusing."

-Officer Figus (Josh Mostel) in "The Chase"

David N. Barnett

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"Marek (aka Josh)" <sandor.a...@infoboard.be> wrote:

>I believe that George Thorogood uses Rickenbackers for all his songs...
>so you might want to consider the songs "Bad to the Bone" and "Get a
>Haircut".

Naa, Thorogood's trademark guitar is a Gibson ES-125T.

--dnb


David N. Barnett

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shaw...@ix.netcom.com(Shawn McDermott ) wrote:


> How about "Kicks" by Paul Revere and the Raiders?
> The intro just DRIPS with the Ricky 12-String!

Sounds more like a solid-body 12-string to me. Since the Raiders were
Vox endorsees, it could have been a MkXII or Phantom XII. Sounds more
like the Fender 12 than a Ricky to me.

--dnb

David N. Barnett

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ch...@clt.mindspring.com (Charles Held) wrote:

>In article <4ck4ki$l...@anarchy.io.com>, kand...@io.com (Kirk Anderson) wrote:
>->The only photos of the Pretenders that I have are
>->on the LP sleeves, and I don't see a Rickenbacker
>->anywhere.


>
>I didn't think that sounded right either - Chrissie has always been a Tele-oid
>and James Honeymann-Scott played a 'Paul. Don't know about any of the
>guitarists since...

I've seen plenty of live footage of Pretenders with JH-S playing a
Rick 360, with one or two more behind him on stands. He was also
known to play Zemaitis guitars. His trademark sound on the first two
Pretenders LPs sounds pretty Rick-oid to me.

--dnb

SEFSTRAT

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Anything with Roger McGuinn...notably the Byrds' "Mr. Tambourine Man".
SEFS...@AOL.com

Roderick W. MacQuarrie

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Anything by the following groups:

The Church
The Railway Children
REM (early)
Marty Willson-Piper

Frank Agnello

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In article <4d0for$o...@disney.ucc>, pio...@mtu.edu (Paul R. Piotrowski) wrote:

One example is the recent Rembrandt's hit "I'll be there
>: for You", which really caught my ear back when it was just a
>: 30-second TV jingle. Their album shows a picture of
>: a Fender 12-string, which would STRONGLY suggest that what we
>: hear there is not necessarily a Rickenbacker.

I also suspect that the electric12-string work on Crowded House's Together
Alone album is not Rickenbacker, since when I saw them perform, Mark Hart
used what looked like a Jerry Jones.

--
Frank Agnello
Agn...@inx.net

Roger Harris PERPK

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tei...@telepost.no (Tormod Eikill) wrote:
>I just heard again "Rain", the B-side to Paperback Writer. The Rick sound
>there must be one of the most distinguished 6-string Rick sounds ever
>recorded.

Yea, RAIN is a great song, probably Ringo's best drumming too.

There's a George Harrison song on Rubber Soul (can't remember the name)
that features his Ric/12-string in all its glory.

On the Hard Days Night album, I believe Gearge used a Rickenbacker 12 string on many of his leads and we know John was playing a Ric=

Carl Christensen

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Quoth pad...@n5pph738.bnr.ca...

>Yea, RAIN is a great song, probably Ringo's best drumming too.
>
>There's a George Harrison song on Rubber Soul (can't remember the name)
>that features his Ric/12-string in all its glory.

Probably 'If I Needed Someone.' I think he capoes his guitar at the
7th fret, shades of 'Here Comes to Sun' a few years later (can't find my
copy of Beatles Scores offhand to verify ;-)

>On the Hard Days Night album, I believe Gearge used a Rickenbacker 12 string
on many of his leads and we know John was playing a Ric=

Yeah on AHDN it's pretty much George on a Ric 12. One of my favorite albums.
I think the 'outro' on the title track is the quintessential Ric 12 riff.

--
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Roger Reini

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Jan 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/18/96
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ca...@netaxs.com (Carl Christensen) wrote:
>[snip]

>Probably 'If I Needed Someone.' I think he capoes his guitar at the
>7th fret, shades of 'Here Comes to Sun' a few years later (can't find my
>copy of Beatles Scores offhand to verify ;-)
>

I've heard that story before, and it makes sense. Supposedly, "If I Needed Someone"
was originally written in D in the standard position as a "response" to the Byrds'
version of "Bells of Rhymney". The two riffs are very similar.

BTW, I have capo'ed my Rick 12 at the 7th fret to play "If I Needed Someone", and I get
"the sound" (or my version of it, anyway).

Roger (rre...@wwnet.com)
Standard disclaimer

peterf...@gmail.com

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Last train to Clarksville is played on a gretsch 12 string not sure what model but that's what was used ... pete cobra falahee

dongu...@gmail.com

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Not knowing how old this thread is, I’ll add another....Suspecting a Ric 12 was used in Henley’s “Heart of the Matter”, it just so happens that Heartbreaker Mike Campbell not only played on the record, he also co-wrote it.
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