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Grand Funk Railroad: MOST OVERRATED BAND OF ALL TIME

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Lane G. Wade

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A great American once said, "Anybody who don't like Mark Farner can kiss
my a**!" I'll go along with that.

Sperm Cannon wrote:
>
> Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.
> What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap fuzzbox,
> Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase drummer
> Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos that
> sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If anything GFR
> is tops in the hype department!

Jim Anable

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Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album. I think it is only
available as an import on CD. This is pre-"locomotion" crap.

Sperm Cannon

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Hugh D. Evans

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Amen.

"Lane G. Wade" wrote:

> A great American once said, "Anybody who don't like Mark Farner can kiss
> my a**!" I'll go along with that.
>
> Sperm Cannon wrote:
> >

George M Webster

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You should have listened to it coming from an 8 track through a pair of
cheap 6x9 speakers in the back of 69 Bonniville high on acid. But that
was a long time ago & in a other world.

Ron Thompson

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Jim Anable wrote:
>
> Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.

The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
"We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.

> I think it is only available as an import on CD. This is pre-"locomotion" crap.

No, that one's out there, easy to get if that's the one you mean.

> Sperm Cannon wrote:

Heh. This here is why we should'nt be puttin pcs in Study Hall.
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DonH

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Now that's a flashback. Wow... Had forgotten about those times......

"George M Webster" <non...@home.com> wrote in message
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> You should have listened to it coming from an 8 track through a pair of
> cheap 6x9 speakers in the back of 69 Bonniville high on acid. But that
> was a long time ago & in a other world.
>
> Sperm Cannon wrote:
>

Daniel L. Dreibelbis

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In article <3A10B9E8...@netdoor.com>, "Lane G. Wade"
<lw...@netdoor.com> wrote:

> A great American once said, "Anybody who don't like Mark Farner can kiss
> my a**!" I'll go along with that.
>

hey, any band that counts as Homer Simpson's favorite band - to the
point that he tried to get the Who to play their songs - are alright in
my book :)

ref

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Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Good point. Good point. Beautiful.

Ron M.

In article <3A1144CD...@home.com>,


George M Webster <non...@home.com> wrote:
>You should have listened to it coming from an 8 track through a pair of
>cheap 6x9 speakers in the back of 69 Bonniville high on acid. But that
>was a long time ago & in a other world.
>
>Sperm Cannon wrote:
>

Dan Stanley

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"George M Webster" <non...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Sperm Cannon wrote:
>
> > Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.
> > What crap!...

> You should have listened to it coming from an 8 track through a pair of
> cheap 6x9 speakers in the back of 69 Bonniville high on acid. But that
> was a long time ago & in a other world.

Oh, man! Truth. I keep meaning to get the first live album on CD, just for
the memories. Loved that band.

Dan


Andrew Riggs

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Yeah, I agree, but my dad hated that double live record
so it at least had that positive aspect for me.:`)

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Jim Anable

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Ron Thompson wrote:

> Jim Anable wrote:
> >
> > Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.
>
> The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
> Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
> "We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.

That's the one! I played mine to DEATH when it came out on vinyl. I bought the CD a
couple of years ago, at that time I was told is was only available by import.

make...@my-deja.com

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In article <8urmc9$4a7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Andrew Riggs <andy...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I agree, but my dad hated that double live record
> so it at least had that positive aspect for me.:`)

Yeah, the double live album and Steppenwolf Live on the family Hi Fi,
drove the family nuts especially full blast through cheap distorted
speakers. Long hair and tie dyed T shirts.

MBIT...@goodyear.com

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> Yeah, the double live album and Steppenwolf Live on the family Hi Fi,
> drove the family nuts especially full blast through cheap distorted
> speakers. Long hair and tie dyed T shirts.

sookie sookie sookie sookie sookie sookie soo!

sorry, just had to!
Later.......
MArtog

Philip J. Bergeron

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Back when I was 12 years old, Mark Farner was the best guitarist in the world.
My tastes have since changed a bunch, but you can't take away those memories. I
still listen to those albums from time to time. Some of it sucks, but then, some
of everything sucks. But some of it was real kick-ass rock. The live album was
great.

Nice troll, though...

-Bucky

howldog

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Jim Anable wrote:

> Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.

heh. single handedly the noisiest recording ever made.

TNUC indeed.

i liked them when i was 12. Farner has a nice singing voice. Footstompin Music is
pretty good. The guitar solo isnt overly horrible.

howl


howldog

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Ron Thompson wrote:

> The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
> Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
> "We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.
>
>

HEY I'M GETTING A SHOCK OFF THIS MIKE

can you switch the ground around? I know its a helluva rush but I cant take too
many...

i know lotsa guys that were at that Atlanta Pop festival they recorded that concert
at. Stories of legendary drug abuse. Complete with lake and cows.


ludlow

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I didn't really think they were rated.
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Jim Anable

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"Philip J. Bergeron" wrote:

> Back when I was 12 years old, Mark Farner was the best guitarist in the world.
> My tastes have since changed a bunch, but you can't take away those memories. I
> still listen to those albums from time to time. Some of it sucks, but then, some
> of everything sucks. But some of it was real kick-ass rock.

Especially when you consider it only took three people to make all of that noise! I
think I remember a wall of Sunn amps on one of the album covers. I never saw them
live, but at one time, they were the hottest live act in the country.

Now, the later Locomotion crap DOES suck.

> The live album was
> great.
>
> Nice troll, though...
>
> -Bucky
>
> Sperm Cannon wrote:
>

"Krush"

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Yo big mouth that was 25 year's ago......great for the time's........get a
life would you.......second though..... naw......it's easy to pick you
out........

>
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ryanm

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:31:23 -0800, Jim Anable <ana...@halcyon.com>
wrote:

>Ron Thompson wrote:
>
>> Jim Anable wrote:
>> >
>> > Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.
>>

>> The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
>> Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
>> "We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.
>

>That's the one! I played mine to DEATH when it came out on vinyl. I bought the CD a
>couple of years ago, at that time I was told is was only available by import.
>

I saw them live about a year or so ago, and they *still* kick
ass. Although the armband thing is getting a little old. Funny how the
things that came across cool in the 60's and 70's come across a
little... shall we say... effiminate?... today. Robert plant is a
perfect example, although I wouldn't be suprised to find out he was
into bestiality and 8-yr olds even then.

ryanm

Johnny Asia

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:32:51 GMT, arfa...@hotmail.com (Sperm Cannon)
wrote:

If anything GFR
>is tops in the hype department!>>


Their first big record was sold out before anyone heard it,
they had a massive billboard ad campaign and curious people
went out and bought it.

I knew a guy, Dick Wagner, who actually gave Farner guitar lessons.
Dick had a band called Frost, then Ursa Major.
Remember all those Detroit bands?

Johnny Asia
http://www.mp3.com/johnnyasia


S. Hart

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:06:14 -0500, Ron Thompson
<thom...@tc.faa.gov> wrote:

>Jim Anable wrote:
>>
>> Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.
>
>The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
>Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
>"We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.

I have... friends who used to get that one out of their
parent's album stash a lot. They'd pass the bong around
while listening to it, and then wear the album sleeves on
their heads as party hats. I never participated in such
foolishness, of course.

James M. Kaihatu

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Read somwhere that Farner invested his money wisely and is
touring just for fun. It also mentioned that he was born again and
writing Christian rock songs.....

JMK

"When I see the glory,
I ain't gonna worry...."

Television - "Glory"

(remove "nospam" to email)

Les Cargill

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"James M. Kaihatu" wrote:
>
> Read somwhere that Farner invested his money wisely and is
> touring just for fun. It also mentioned that he was born again and
> writing Christian rock songs.....
>

He went through a born-again phase at one point. I think he was
back with Grand Funk when last seen. 401 K tours...

> JMK
>
> "When I see the glory,
> I ain't gonna worry...."
>
> Television - "Glory"
>
> (remove "nospam" to email)

--
http://home.att.net/~lcargill

Ron Thompson

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howldog wrote:

>
> Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> > The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
> > Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
> > "We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.
> >
> >
>
> HEY I'M GETTING A SHOCK OFF THIS MIKE
>
> can you switch the ground around? I know its a helluva rush but I cant take too
> many...

Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...



> i know lotsa guys that were at that Atlanta Pop festival they recorded that concert
> at. Stories of legendary drug abuse. Complete with lake and cows.

<sniff>

Them days are gone you know. Sucks.

Ron Thompson

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Same as it ever was. Well, today we pass around the MochaFrappaBerryCcinno,
and we wear...party hats as party hats, but pretty much the same zany
hijinx.

howldog

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Ron Thompson wrote:

>
>
> Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...

dont forget to conjure up bad fogged thru mescaline thirty year old images of Farner on
his knees with his back bent down to the floor playing that "solo" during "In Need".

Man. and now he says his back is killing him. gee I wonder.......

he sez it hurts so bad he "has to use a Parker Fly" now.

>
>
> Them days are gone you know. Sucks.

not really. just ask anybody who was there. They're prolly flashing it back repeatedly.

>

howldog

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Les Cargill wrote:

> He went through a born-again phase at one point. I think he was
> back with Grand Funk when last seen. 401 K tours...

yeah he was doing the Christian circuit for some time, then got drafted
into Ringo Starr's all-star band somehow. They say farner is pretty
wealthy. these claims that he couldnt play when they started and all
that, well, no, he sure as hell wasnt up to Page or Hendrix's standards
for 1970. But he was in a fairly successful Detroit band with a couple
of hits before that, cant remember the name. Point is, he had been
around already by the time GFR hit the airwaves behind a legendary dose
of PR from disc jocky turned failed bandleader turned promoter Terry
Knight. He could play pretty well by the normal 1970 rock standards.
Sort of. I guess. I didnt care. I bought Mark Don and Mel the same day
that I bought Todd Rundgren's A Wizard A True Star and Black Sabbath
Paranoid, and I couldnt tell much difference between the guitar
playing..... man those drugs were good.

howl


Ron Thompson

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howldog wrote:
>
> Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...
>
> dont forget to conjure up bad fogged thru mescaline thirty year old images of Farner on
> his knees with his back bent down to the floor playing that "solo" during "In Need".

Heh. When I do that, Tufnels' roadies have to help me up.



> Man. and now he says his back is killing him. gee I wonder.......
> he sez it hurts so bad he "has to use a Parker Fly" now.

That kinda sucks, don't it?

>> Them days are gone you know. Sucks.
> not really. just ask anybody who was there. They're prolly flashing it back repeatedly.

Oh man I wouldn't want to go back to that part of it at all.

terry...@my-deja.com

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I spoke with him a couple of years ago when he purchased some acoustic
panels from our company. Man, it brought back all those great memories.
I always looked up to Farner when I was a young guitar player. And
that band had great vocals.

By the way, he's still "born-again" - it wasn't a phase he went through!

Terry

Pete Kerezman

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Ron Thompson <thom...@tc.faa.gov> wrote:

>> HEY I'M GETTING A SHOCK OFF THIS MIKE
>>
>> can you switch the ground around? I know its a helluva rush but I cant take too
>> many...
>

>Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...
>

I'll bet.



>> i know lotsa guys that were at that Atlanta Pop festival they recorded that concert
>> at. Stories of legendary drug abuse. Complete with lake and cows.

I may have been to a gfr concert but i can't be sure.

>
><sniff>


>
>Them days are gone you know. Sucks.
>

The vintage memories always seem better but you outgrew them
otherwise you'd still be there. You're just having some kind of
near-mid-life crisis lately. Besides - "if memories were all i sang
i'd rather drive a truck." Somethin' like that.

Texas Pete
Pete Kerezman (pete...@aol.com)

Ron Thompson

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Pete Kerezman wrote:
>
> >Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...
> >
>
> I'll bet.

Heh. jeez. Yeah, yer right. I'll get it out, but danged if I know
what I'm going to do with it.



> >> i know lotsa guys that were at that Atlanta Pop festival they recorded that concert
> >> at. Stories of legendary drug abuse. Complete with lake and cows.
>
> I may have been to a gfr concert but i can't be sure.

Think about it. Harder.



> >
> ><sniff>
> >
> >Them days are gone you know. Sucks.
> >
>
> The vintage memories always seem better but you outgrew them
> otherwise you'd still be there. You're just having some kind of
> near-mid-life crisis lately.

Naahhh. No crisis. I wouldn't give anything to be anywhere but where
I am right now.

> Besides - "if memories were all i sang i'd rather drive a truck."
> Somethin' like that.

"I gotta keep rockin while I still can..."

Tom Yost

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Sperm Cannon wrote:
>
> Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.
> What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap fuzzbox,
> Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase drummer
> Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos that
> sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If anything GFR

> is tops in the hype department!

About a month ago, I bought a "turntable" at a neighbor's yard sale for
$5.00. Nothing fancy, but I haven't had one for maybe 12 years.
Anyway, I've been working my way through the vinyl collection and
recently listened to "On Time" and "Live Album." I think Live Album has
to be one of the worst live recordings (in terms of sound quality) ever
! I've heard better quality bootlegs recorded from audience members
with handheld mikes! YECH.


Tom

Dan Stanley

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"Tom Yost" <t...@gSePsApMac.com> wrote in message
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> Sperm Cannon wrote:
> >
> > Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week,

> About a month ago, I bought a "turntable" at a neighbor's yard sale for


> $5.00. Nothing fancy, but I haven't had one for maybe 12 years.
> Anyway, I've been working my way through the vinyl collection and
> recently listened to "On Time" and "Live Album." I think Live Album has
> to be one of the worst live recordings (in terms of sound quality) ever
> !

But even with that bad sound quality, it has great SPIRIT. And for stuff
like that, that's all that is needed.

SHoot, it's GFR. Loud, sloppy, rock and roll, done right,by three guys from
Michigan.
As long as you know that going in, there shouldn't be a problem,
Whaddaya want, the EAGLES?

I also loved the "We're An American Band" album, and I ain't ashamed to
admit it!

Dan
Dan

Charlie Escher

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howldog wrote:

> Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Heh. Man. I gotta get that record out this weekend...
>

> dont forget to conjure up bad fogged thru mescaline thirty year old images of Farner on
> his knees with his back bent down to the floor playing that "solo" during "In Need".
>

> Man. and now he says his back is killing him. gee I wonder.......
>
> he sez it hurts so bad he "has to use a Parker Fly" now.
>
> >
> >

> > Them days are gone you know. Sucks.
>

> not really. just ask anybody who was there. They're prolly flashing it back repeatedly.
>
> >

Damn it Howl...now I'm gonna have to work up a version of "Inside Looking Out" for my
company party I'm playing at in two weeks. Punch, anyone?


--C.E.

JBAXE

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I also knew a guy from the Frost (Gordy Garris I think was the name) he was the
bass player. A great Michigan band that nobody seems to have heard of. Two
songs come to mind Rock and Roll Music and Mystery Man. Dick Wagner also went
on to bigger and better things (Alice Cooper, Lou Reed (Rock and Roll Animal).
At the time Grand Funk was getting going, Michigan had some other great music.
Mitch Ryder, MC5, early Bob Seeger, Ted Nugent etc...Grand Funk at the time did
kick ass for a trio.

~*MojoBlues*~

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I've got a 4 record live album from them that I picked up at a garage sale
for 3 bucks. Best 3 bucks I ever spent.

Rob


Pat Lyman

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"Jim Anable" <ana...@halcyon.com> wrote in message
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> "Philip J. Bergeron" wrote:
>
> > Back when I was 12 years old, Mark Farner was the best guitarist in the
world.
> > My tastes have since changed a bunch, but you can't take away those
memories. I
> > still listen to those albums from time to time. Some of it sucks, but
then, some
> > of everything sucks. But some of it was real kick-ass rock.
>
> Especially when you consider it only took three people to make all of that
noise! I
> think I remember a wall of Sunn amps on one of the album covers. I never
saw them
> live, but at one time, they were the hottest live act in the country.
>

I saw them once, at their peak (1971?) I had a girl friend at the time who
really liked them.

They used West amps, with 4x15 cabs, IIRC. They were LOUD; louder than
Cream, louder than Hendrix. Louder than Led Zep.

--

Pat Lyman

Heat Of The Night
Blues, Soul, R&B, and oldies band:
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howldog

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Charlie Escher wrote:

> Damn it Howl...now I'm gonna have to work up a version of "Inside Looking Out"

heh. Two chords, F and G.

I work all day..... makin up, uh, nickel bags.......

anybody ever hear Drivin And Cryins album with Fly Me Courageous? there's a song on there,
the first or second one, and they LIFT note for note one of the riffs from In Need. Swear to
god. kinda hilarious, really. Buncha old geezers like me that werent fooled...

howl


ryanm

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:28:40 -0500, howldog <how...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>heh. Two chords, F and G.
>
>I work all day..... makin up, uh, nickel bags.......
>
>anybody ever hear Drivin And Cryins album with Fly Me Courageous? there's a song on there,
>the first or second one, and they LIFT note for note one of the riffs from In Need. Swear to
>god. kinda hilarious, really. Buncha old geezers like me that werent fooled...
>

Actually, I though that myself when that D&C album came out.
That's not all the lifted, either. But they weren't bad, though, just
more blatant in their stealing than most.

ryanm

ryanm

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 05:05:04 -0800, "Pat Lyman" <ply...@as.net> wrote:

>They used West amps, with 4x15 cabs, IIRC. They were LOUD; louder than
>Cream, louder than Hendrix. Louder than Led Zep.
>

I saw them less than a year ago. They weren't that loud, but
they still kicked much ass..

ryanm

joey...@my-deja.com

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Sheeeeeet !! I listened to my Closer To Home
8 Track tape until it was shredded !! I also listened to the On Time
album which I borrowed from one of my freinds quite a bit also
(I still have it around somewhere) I still listen to it every now and
then, Are You Ready, Heartbreaker, Into the Sun, Time Machine would be
awesome today if somebody reworked them a little. Unfortunately
a new type of music called "Disco" put GFR outta biz in the mid 70's.

Joey

Hey don't ejaculate on great bands like GFR !!


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arfa...@hotmail.com (Sperm Cannon) wrote:
>
> Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On
Time.
> What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap
fuzzbox,
> Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase
drummer
> Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos
that
> sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If
anything GFR
> is tops in the hype department!
>
>

ryanm

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:07:14 GMT, joey...@my-deja.com wrote:

>then, Are You Ready, Heartbreaker, Into the Sun, Time Machine would be
>awesome today if somebody reworked them a little. Unfortunately
>a new type of music called "Disco" put GFR outta biz in the mid 70's.
>

Allright, now you've done it. I can see I'm gonna have to add
some more GFR to our song list. We already do Some Kind of Wonderful,
but I guess we need to add Time Machine.

ryanm

Sperm Cannon

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In article <20001115003809...@ng-cl1.aol.com>, lmcda...@aol.com (LMcdan1313) wrote:
>You obviously don't know much about music. GFR sold 11 consecutive PLATINUM
>albums, each more diverse than the previous. Listen to We're An American Band,
>Shinin On, Good Singin Good Playin, Grand Funk Lives, Survival, Phoenix to get
>a more realistic look at their body of work. Terry Knight, their first manager
>who ripped them off for millions, produced their first 3 albums as cheaply as
>possible, often in 3 days or less. Todd Rundgren and Frank Zappa captured their
>sound much better in the studio.

Well woopdee fuckin doo... They sell 11 PLATINUM albums with
songs about smoking dope, raising hell, driving fast cars, looking
for pussy, and smoking dope.


Jim Anable wrote:
>> Sperm Cannon wrote:
>>
> Heh. This here is why we should'nt be puttin pcs in Study Hall.

Heh. Good guess. I was in the fucking Library you twit. Study Hall
PCs don't seem to have newsreaders any more.

Sperm Cannon

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Nov 19, 2000, 1:59:59 AM11/19/00
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In article <20001117162051...@ng-cf1.aol.com>, bruze...@aol.com (BruzerJeff) wrote:
>Nobody could hold a candle to a GFRR live show , not ZEP. not PURPLE, not Heep,
> and not Sabbath( I saw them in 78 they sucked) Van Halen blew them away!!! Who
>was one of Eddie Van Halens Heros??MARK FARNER!!!! gIVE ME GFRR any day over
>anybody!!!!

Uriah Heep, another piece of shit overrate band, far worse than
Grand Funk Railroad! Another product of the hype machine. GFRR
undoubtedly were a great LIVE noisy band but they still offered nothing
of significance outside of that. Black Sabbath on the other hand were
far more innovative and that's why they outlasted GFRR by decades.

JAVan69

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Gee, you guys have never seen Blue Oyster Cult?

Dan Stanley

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"Sperm Cannon" <arfa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zNKR5.28982$wW2.9...@news1.giganews.com...

> In article <20001115003809...@ng-cl1.aol.com>,
lmcda...@aol.com (LMcdan1313) wrote:
> >You obviously don't know much about music. GFR sold 11 consecutive
PLATINUM
> >albums, each more diverse than the previous. Listen to We're An American
Band,
> >Shinin On, Good Singin Good Playin, Grand Funk Lives, Survival, Phoenix
to get
> >a more realistic look at their body of work. Terry Knight, their first
manager
> >who ripped them off for millions, produced their first 3 albums as
cheaply as
> >possible, often in 3 days or less. Todd Rundgren and Frank Zappa captured
their
> >sound much better in the studio.
>
> Well woopdee fuckin doo... They sell 11 PLATINUM albums with
> songs about smoking dope, raising hell, driving fast cars, looking
> for pussy, and smoking dope.

Ain't it grand!
Those guys deserve to be, like, thanked or something.
THANKS, GUYS!

Dan

TE...@webtv.net

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I read a EVH interview where he says Mark Farner was the person that
made him want to be a performer and not just play guitar. Thanks Mark!!!


ryanm

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 06:59:59 GMT, arfa...@hotmail.com (Sperm Cannon)
wrote:

>Uriah Heep, another piece of shit overrate band, far worse than
>Grand Funk Railroad! Another product of the hype machine. GFRR
>undoubtedly were a great LIVE noisy band but they still offered nothing
>of significance outside of that. Black Sabbath on the other hand were
>far more innovative and that's why they outlasted GFRR by decades.
>

Uuuhhhhmmm... They're both still touring.

ryanm

doug lauber

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The Grand Funk album I remember as being good,
was the red album, - I think it was their 2nd album.
I can't remember the name of it. After that, they
went downhill quickly. -doug


doug lauber

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doug lauber wrote:

Actually, I just looked up their stuff at CDnow and
I believe it was their Closer To Home album. What I
remember, was the excellent rhythm section- about
the loudest recorded bass guitar, for it's time, and
well synchronized with the drums. This album was
surely influenced by the previous LONG jams of
Cream and the Allman Bros. Farner's playing was
okay, but the rhythm section was ...inspired.
I'd probably get this album for my collection, but
definitely no other Grand Funk. -doug

doug lauber

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doug lauber wrote:

Crap! I just went to a fan's website and discovered the
album I was thinking of is NOT 'Closer To Home' (oops)

The album I liked was simply, 'Grand Funk', not listed
at CDnow's site! (and I think it was red) This is the
album to check out. It was the album release after
'On Time' and before 'Closer To Home'. -doug

doug lauber

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Sperm Cannon wrote:

> Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.
> What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap fuzzbox,
> Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase drummer
> Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos that
> sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If anything GFR
> is tops in the hype department!

The album to check out is called 'Grand Funk', released
after 'On Time', in late '69. It's their best, and the only one
I'd buy now. -doug

Toto Yamamoto

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Nov 25, 2000, 2:35:10 AM11/25/00
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In article <3A1138...@tc.faa.gov>, Ron Thompson <thom...@tc.faa.gov> wrote:

>> Try to get your hands on an OLD recording, Live double album.
>
>The Black one? Grand Funk Railroad Live? That one? Mean Mistreater,
>Heartbreaker, Mark Says Alright, T.N.U.C.? That one? Oh yeah man.
>"We wanna play, man...so move back...". I THINK that's the one you mean.
>

>> I think it is only available as an import on CD. This is pre-"locomotion"
> crap.
>
>No, that one's out there, easy to get if that's the one you mean.
>

The Grand Funk Live double live album (from 1970) on CD has
been out of print in the USA for about 3 years now. You can
only get it these days on EMI out of Netherlands or UK, but for
cheap.

Also out of print for a while in the USA and once again only
available on EMI in Europe is their 4th album (from 1971)
Survival. The comp album Mark, Don, & Mel has never
made it to CD anywhere ever.


Toto Yamamoto

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Nov 25, 2000, 2:38:21 AM11/25/00
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In article <3A1EA54D...@earthlink.net>, doug lauber <dugs...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Crap! I just went to a fan's website and discovered the
>album I was thinking of is NOT 'Closer To Home' (oops)
>
>The album I liked was simply, 'Grand Funk', not listed
>at CDnow's site! (and I think it was red) This is the
>album to check out. It was the album release after
>'On Time' and before 'Closer To Home'. -doug
>

Most people have simply called it "The Red Album" over the
years.


Allan Flippin

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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As I recall (being a geezer), Grand Funk was incredibly popular,
and served the function of keeping Capitol Records alive after the
demise of the Beatles. And the critics were somewhat mystified.
There's a difference between selling a bazillion albums and being
regarded as "good". I wasn't aware of Grand Funk being taken very
seriously.

Allan

On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:32:51 GMT, arfa...@hotmail.com (Sperm Cannon)

Mike G

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Moronic thing to say.
"doug lauber" <dugs...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3A1E9FEE...@earthlink.net...

doug lauber

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Toto Yamamoto wrote:

where can i get the 'red' album? -doug


Andy Stenger

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I know it's out of print in the US, pending some re-release
in the unknown future. I think I saw the import for sale at Amazon
for 20 bucks. Could be wrong. Left my tape version back in
the lab in grad school. Damn!

The "red album" is actually one of my all-time favorite hard
rock albums. "Closer to home" is good and so is the "Live" album.
The lyrics can be kind of stupid but who cares? It's certainly
not brilliant guitar work but it's definitely good hard rock.
I heard a story about Grand Funk opening for Led Zeppelin
and blowing them away. Maybe they meant volume-wise?

Overrated? Nah. I never hear anyone talking about how great
they are and after taking a listen you wonder what they were
talking about. My experience was just the opposite. I kind of heard
their name and bought the red album back in high school. I loved
it because it was hard rock opposed to the heavy metal that was
being barfed out in the 80's.

Maybe Grand Funk is underrated. Just "inside looking out..."
Andy

howldog

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Andy Stenger wrote:

>
> Maybe Grand Funk is underrated. Just "inside looking out..."
>

stupid, underrated or not, that one is fun as hell to play, if yer the guitar player..... mindless
wank in G for as long as you want. I actually saw sheet music for this once and it totaled about
half a page, coupla verses and chorus, then "adlib". hahaha!

watch it tho, your bass player might fall asleep.

howl

howldog

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Toto Yamamoto wrote:

>
> Also out of print for a while in the USA and once again only
> available on EMI in Europe is their 4th album (from 1971)
> Survival. The comp album Mark, Don, & Mel has never
> made it to CD anywhere ever.

kewl, i really liked Survival. We smoked an awful lot of dope to that one. How do I
get ahold of EMI in Europe? Got a website?

Ron Thompson

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howldog wrote:

>
> Toto Yamamoto wrote:
>
> >
> > Also out of print for a while in the USA and once again only
> > available on EMI in Europe is their 4th album (from 1971)
> > Survival. The comp album Mark, Don, & Mel has never
> > made it to CD anywhere ever.
>
> kewl, i really liked Survival. We smoked an awful lot of dope to that one. How do I
> get ahold of EMI in Europe? Got a website?

http://www.cdnow.com/
--
rct

The opinions above are mine and mine alone.

KeithF

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"Sperm Cannon" <arfa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.
> What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap
fuzzbox,
> Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase drummer
> Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos that
> sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If anything
GFR
> is tops in the hype department!
>
>

I think that this post was just designed to piss people off and get a
reaction, and it succeeded. If it was serious though, it just sounds like
the ignorance of youth talking. If Spermo is an older fella, then he's gotta
a little growing up to do. For their time, GFR were a fantastic hard rock
band. They were basically a garage band who managed to write some catchy
songs and entertain a lot of people. That's what they were about. I don't
believe they ever made any claims to genius musicianship, but they were
certainly no slouches either. Just good basic playing... good grooves and
lots of fun. Personally, I'll take the hard rock of the 60s and 70s, with
all it's warts intact, to the sterile and note-perfect version that made
it's way around the late 80s and early 90s. The older stuff was fun and had
lots of character. Not to mention a bit of musical diversity. And I'd much
rather go to an old fart reunion tour by Black Sabbath, Grand Funk or
Page/Plant than watch some losers half their age try to perfect the sound
that the masters created and ruin it in the process.

Keith

Jim Anable

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KeithF wrote:

> "Sperm Cannon" <arfa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TK%P5.401$DG3....@news2.giganews.com...
> >
> > Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.

> > What crap! ...


>
> I think that this post was just designed to piss people off and get a
> reaction, and it succeeded.

It also succeeded in bring a lot of former GFR fans out of the closet! That
LIVE double album is a part of my youth, and I still love it. I still have many
fond memories of my parents yelling "turn that @#$% DOWN!" I happened to
especially like "Heartbreaker," and would drive everyone else in the house nuts
when I cranked it.


Tom Plunket

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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KeithF wrote:

> They were basically a garage band who managed to write some catchy
> songs and entertain a lot of people. That's what they were about. I don't

> believe they ever made any claims to genius musicianship...

If they weren't virtuosos, what were they doing putting out
records? Obviously the only records worth buying are those by
technical masters, other players have no worth!

<bg>


-tom!

--
Mesa Dual Rectifier driven by Time guitars
email if you have a Time for sale!

Sperm Cannon

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>I think that this post was just designed to piss people off and get a
>reaction, and it succeeded. If it was serious though, it just sounds like
>the ignorance of youth talking. If Spermo is an older fella, then he's gotta
>a little growing up to do. For their time, GFR were a fantastic hard rock
>band. They were basically a garage band who managed to write some catchy

>songs and entertain a lot of people. That's what they were about. I don't
>believe they ever made any claims to genius musicianship, but they were
>certainly no slouches either. Just good basic playing... good grooves and
>lots of fun. Personally, I'll take the hard rock of the 60s and 70s, with
>all it's warts intact, to the sterile and note-perfect version that made
>it's way around the late 80s and early 90s. The older stuff was fun and had
>lots of character. Not to mention a bit of musical diversity. And I'd much
>rather go to an old fart reunion tour by Black Sabbath, Grand Funk or
>Page/Plant than watch some losers half their age try to perfect the sound
>that the masters created and ruin it in the process.

No, not the ignorance of youth just the un-jaded observation of a
new ear. Sure theres a cultural thing involved, 60s & 70s music vs
so-called new (mostly crap) music. Its just the remarks I saw inside
that gatefold jacket of Grand Funk Live (or was it the Mark, Don, and
Mel comp) about these 3 people being among "the most important in
the world" (ya, right) that got me going. The verdict in my mind was
top of the heap in the hype category. Speaking of a heap, Uriah Heap
was another overrated band, so was Iron Butterfly, both even worse
than Grand Funk. I took some of yer all suggestions and listened to
GFR Live 2LP set and Survival on CD. OK, great, Grand Funk had a
few moments of glory here and there. But I dare anyone to try to justify
that embarassment of an album Survival. What the fuck?!? Heavy rock
for 3 albums in a row, "workin' all day makin' NICKELBAGS!!!"
screams Farner on the Live album, then suddenly some hairbrained
stealth-religious LP for the crapper is put out next!!?????!!!. What a
friggin' laugh! That must have sent cold shivers down Capitol Records
spine making them wonder what the fuck was going to happen next
with these clowns. Its only saving grace was the cover sog Gimme
Shelter. Survival must have been a huge huge fucking downer to a
lot of proto-headbangers back in 71. If you want hard rock from that
time a far better band was MC5.

Steven Oaks

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On Monday, November 13, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Lane G. Wade wrote:
> A great American once said, "Anybody who don't like Mark Farner can kiss
> my a**!" I'll go along with that.
> Sperm Cannon wrote:
> >
> > Listened to these 2 GFR albums this week, Closer To Home and On Time.A
> > What crap! It sounds like Mark Farner is playing an SG thru a crap fuzzbox,
> > Mel can only play stoned J-Bass lines, and their goddam nutcase drummer
> > Don just loves to play drum solos every chance he gets... drum solos that
> > sound like somebody doing practice warm ups. Its amazing that GFR is
> > still listed as one the all time top 200 selling rock bands. If anything GFR
> > is tops in the hype department!
You are a delusional A-hole!
What do you listen to, Milli Vanilli?
This is pure rock and roll, before manufactured computer generated crap! You are about as ignorant as a person can get!!!
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