Replacement pickups for 1973 Les Paul Deluxe
Greg Stewart
I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
distortion levels really aren't that high.
Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
something that fits in the existing holes.
Greg.
Kevin James
Personally, I love P-90s in a Deluxe. If you want replacement
mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
Kevin
ester_keytone
On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:55:31 -0500, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com>
wrote:
>I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
>to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
>distortion levels really aren't that high.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
>something that fits in the existing holes.
>
>Greg.
Consider trading it in for a LP with full sized pickups. The small
pickups never have kicked ass. Never have, never will..........
Beware of the "NEW WORLD ORDER"
Chuck Brillowsky
>On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:55:31 -0500, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers.
>>
>>Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>>suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
>>something that fits in the existing holes.
I have been considering doing exactly that with my Deluxe.
Seymour Duncan makes 3 replacements for the mini-humbuckers and,
keep in mind that the Deluxe was routed to accomodate a P90. This
should open up your choice to a wider array beyond the
mini-humbucker world.
Chuck
Rick French
I believe Seymour Duncan's got three different flavors of
mini-buckers.
Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
>to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
>distortion levels really aren't that high.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
>something that fits in the existing holes.
>
>Greg.
John D. Thornburg
jam...@hermes.bc.edu (Kevin James) wrote:
>In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
>> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
>> distortion levels really aren't that high.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
>> something that fits in the existing holes.
>>
>> Greg.
>Personally, I love P-90s in a Deluxe. If you want replacement
>mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
>Kevin
I have used the seymour duncan "seymourized" mini-humbuckers in my
Epiphone Riviera. I was having the exact same problems, but worse
because my guitar is semi-hollow. They really sound great. Meaty
sounding pickups (fat sounding, kind of inbetween the P90 and a Hot
full-size humbucker if you can imagine that) and they have eliminated
my feedback problems. They really have a unique sound that you'll
love.
Try them, you'll like them. Let me know.
JT
John Thornburg jthor...@trader.com
Greg Stewart
Kevin James wrote:
>
> In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> > to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> > distortion levels really aren't that high.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
> > suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> > something that fits in the existing holes.
> >
> > Greg
>
> mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
>
> Kevin
I assume a P90 is not a mini-humbucker? I guess I don't know what the
difference between a mini-humbucker and a normal humbucker is, but I'd
certainly be willing to try the P90. What makes it better than a mini?
Greg
JB
Ester, Keytone wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:55:31 -0500, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> >to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> >distortion levels really aren't that high.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
> >suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> >something that fits in the existing holes.
> >
> Consider trading it in for a LP with full sized pickups. The small
> pickups never have kicked ass. Never have, never will..........
> Beware of the "NEW WORLD ORDER"
FWIW, most of the guitars used by Pete Townsend in the 70's had mini
humbuckers in them. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
Thomas Clark
7254...@compuserve.com (Rick French) writes: > I believe Seymour Duncan's got three different flavors of
> mini-buckers.
>
>
> >I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> >to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> >distortion levels really aren't that high.
Are you sure they are bnot p-90's they ussually give a lot of feedback.
If they are I sure wouldn't replace them, original p-90s in a classic gibson
is a big part of the value.
Tom Richards
John D. Thornburg wrote:
>
> jam...@hermes.bc.edu (Kevin James) wrote:
>
> >In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>
> >> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> >> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> >> distortion levels really aren't that high.
> >>
> >> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> >> something that fits in the existing holes.
> >>
> >> Greg.
>
humbucker.
I've never tried them, but they might combat that feedback problem.
Tom
JoeB
> > >I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They
seem
> > >to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> > >distortion levels really aren't that high.
Better still, why not just leave it as it is & swap it for my 1989 Black
Les Paul Standard -- I LIKE mini Humbuckers.
Joe
David J MacKenzie
Thomas Clark <J.C...@nconline.com> writes:
> > >I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> > >to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> > >distortion levels really aren't that high.
>
> Are you sure they are bnot p-90's they ussually give a lot of feedback.
A '73 Deluxe definitely has mini-humbuckers, not P-90s.
Deluxes switched from P-90s in 1969-1970, and stopped producing
gold-tops with P-90s in 1972 until 1989.
David J MacKenzie
Tom Richards <j...@concentric.net> writes:
> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
> > >> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> > >> something that fits in the existing holes.
> Another alternative to the mini humbucker is the p-100 stacked
> humbucker.
P-90s and P-100s are bigger than mini-humbuckers. Seymour Duncan
mini-humbuckers are probably the only thing out there that will fit
the existing holes.
Linda
It's true that P90's are larger than the mini's, but on LP Deluxe, the
pickup
assembly includes a plastic shroud that makes the footprint exactly the
same size
as a P90. A P90 will fit in the existing PU hole perfectly, and my 71 LP
Deluxe
never sounded better. BTW, keep the classic Gibson tone and get Gibson
PU's
Mick Patterson
In article <lou3n1s...@catapult.va.pubnix.com>, David J MacKenzie
<d...@catapult.va.pubnix.com> wrote:
+Tom Richards <j...@concentric.net> writes:
+> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
+> > >> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
+> > >> something that fits in the existing holes.
+
+> Another alternative to the mini humbucker is the p-100 stacked
+> humbucker.
+
+P-90s and P-100s are bigger than mini-humbuckers. Seymour Duncan
+mini-humbuckers are probably the only thing out there that will fit
+the existing holes.
P-90s are the same size as the DeLuxe mini-humbucker.
I have swapped them out before. The P-90 slot had
to be cut a hair deeper, but the routing was the same.
The P-90 COVER, however, requires two screw-holes
drilled outside the routing, where the DeLuxe doesn't.
I replaced one with a DiMarzio DLX pickup, which is a
DeLuxe-sized Dual Sound (same power as the Super Dis-
tortion, but has four wires for coil-splitting and
such). It fit in the hole nicely. I liked it; more
power, but still let the character of the guitar come
through. I personally would put this DLX in the
bridge position, and leave the regular DeLuxe in the
neck position. I am not overly fond of Seymour Duncan
pickups, and have not tried their DeLuxe replacements,
so I can't compare them (personal opinion, here).
---Mick...
___________________________________________________________
My opinions do not reflect those of anyone else... yet.
Fran Guidry
In article <lou3n1s...@catapult.va.pubnix.com>,
David J MacKenzie <d...@catapult.va.pubnix.com> wrote:
>
>> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>
>P-90s and P-100s are bigger than mini-humbuckers. Seymour Duncan
But the mini-humbuckers in a Deluxe are fitted into a plastic holder
that is just the size of a P-90. Check one out.
Fran
Greg Stewart
JoeB wrote:
>
> >I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> >to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> >distortion levels really aren't that high.
>
> Les Paul Standard -- I LIKE mini Humbuckers.
>
> Joe
I admit the feedback/pickups are bugging me, but I will never get rid of
my guitar. It rocks.
Greg
herr...@miavx1.muohio.edu
In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> writes:
> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> distortion levels really aren't that high.
>
> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> something that fits in the existing holes.
Seymour Duncan makes three varieties of minihumbuckers that will fit
into the existing slots. At least one of them is of the "hot" variety,
if that's what you want. In the late 70s-early 80s, Dimarzio made these
soapbar-sized humbuckers called DLX-1s, which were to go into LP Deluxes when
the old pickups and mounting rings were removed.
With this in mind, I think that soapbar P-90s would fit into Deluxes without
routing, but I doubt if you want this sound.
Alex
John D. Thornburg
jam...@hermes.bc.edu (Kevin James) wrote:
>In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
>> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
>> distortion levels really aren't that high.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
>> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
>> something that fits in the existing holes.
>>
>> Greg.
>Personally, I love P-90s in a Deluxe. If you want replacement
>mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
>Kevin
Is everyone clear that LesPaul Deluxes came in P90 models and Mini
Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
John Thornburg jthor...@trader.com
Mike Rejsa
John D. Thornburg <jthor...@trader.com> wrote:
: Is everyone clear that LesPaul Deluxes came in P90 models and Mini
: Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
: replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
And likewise that both P90's and mini-humbucker with the Deluxe-style
frames go in the same body cavity with no mods... I did this with a
Deluxe I had many years ago, worked fine and sounded good.
I'd also like to add that the first Les Paul reissue back in 1968-1972
time frame came both in a tunamatic/stop tailpiece configuration, and
also with the original stop bridge/tailpiece. The P90 version (to the
best of my knowledge) came both ways (tuna/stop 68-69, stop bridge 71-72)
and the mini-humbucker version always had the tunamatic/stop.
I'm pretty sure the mini-humbucker version was made up into the 80's.
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Kevin James
In article <5f6n9e$b...@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Mike Rejsa
<mi...@primenet.com> wrote:
> John D. Thornburg <jthor...@trader.com> wrote:
> : Is everyone clear that LesPaul Deluxes came in P90 models and Mini
> : Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
> : replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
>
> And likewise that both P90's and mini-humbucker with the Deluxe-style
> frames go in the same body cavity with no mods... I did this with a
> Deluxe I had many years ago, worked fine and sounded good.
Yep, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I personally don't like
mini-humbuckers much, but have put in P90s in Deluxes before and I thought
the improvement in tone and body was significant.
Did it not seem clear what we were talking about?
Kevin
Tom Richards
John D. Thornburg wrote:
>
> jam...@hermes.bc.edu (Kevin James) wrote:
>
> >In article <330DC5...@ford.com>, Greg Stewart <gste...@ford.com> wrote:
>
> >> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> >> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> >> distortion levels really aren't that high.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
> >> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> >> something that fits in the existing holes.
> >>
> >> Greg.
>
> >Personally, I love P-90s in a Deluxe. If you want replacement
> >mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
>
> >Kevin
>
> Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
> replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
>
Not only that, but to make things more confusing, Gibson also made some
Deluxe models with full size humbuckers.
Tom
brett
John D. Thornburg <jthor...@trader.com> wrote:
>> : Is everyone clear that LesPaul Deluxes came in P90 models and Mini
>> : Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
>> : replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
>>
>> And likewise that both P90's and mini-humbucker with the Deluxe-style
>> frames go in the same body cavity with no mods... I did this with a
>> Deluxe I had many years ago, worked fine and sounded good.
>
for those who are interested. the way i heard it was that gibson were
producing lp's with p90's. they already had many bodies routed and finished
when they aquired a lot of mini hb's from epiphone in the late 60's so they
fitted these into the lp's already routed for p90's. those with the mini's
become the deluxes those with the p90's the pros.
peace
brett
Patrick Keenan
Tom Richards wrote:
>> >> I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe (Gold Top) with mini-humbuckers. They seem
> > >> to feedback considerably at high distortion levels. Actually, the
> > >> distortion levels really aren't that high.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions for replacement pickups? As you might
> > >> suspect, I have no desire to cut into the body at all, so I'd need
> > >> something that fits in the existing holes.
> > >>
> > >> Greg.
> >
> > >Personally, I love P-90s in a Deluxe. If you want replacement
> > >mini-humbuckers I know that Duncan makes some.
> >
> > >Kevin
> >
> > Humbucker models? His guitar came with the minis in it. He has not
> > replace his P90s with minis - his came that way.
> >
> Deluxe models with full size humbuckers.
>
> Tom
--
Also, this was a popular modification... You need to just lift out the
pickups and check. This can sometimes be done sufficiently without
loosening the strings.
As to the feedback, this is known as a 'microphonic' effect. Parts are
loose if you hear this, and the parts list can include the coil
windings.
Removing the pickup and allowing it to soak in melted paraffin wax (Do
not put on direct heat source - use a double boiler to prevent ignition
of the wax!) is a commmonly accepted fix for this.
As a replacement, there are p-90's and a humbucker version of the same
pickup, sorry, I forget its designation, and also... Firebird pickups
will also fit in, but these do not have adjustable polepieces.
Personally I love these.
Thank You,
Patrick Keenan
Symantec - The Delrina Group
Lane Longley
The P-100 is the stacked double coil (humbucker) version of the P-90...
the Gibson USA P-90 or P-100 will fit in the original hole (it's a very
tight squeeze) but the mounting screws are in a different location and the
P-90's tend to sit a little deep in the pocket. So be ready if you do
decide to replace your old pick-ups. I've done this before so if you need
additional info let me know.
O&<