Talkbox Songs
Brett McCarron
effect. So far, I've got:
Those Shoes (Eagles)
Baby I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
DO You Feel Like We Do (Peter Frampton)
Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh)
Walk This Way (chorus ... in the background) (Aerosmith)
Sweet Emotion (intro) (Aerosmith)
Tell Me Something Good (Rufus with Chaka Kahn)
I know that there are others, like The Zoo (Scorpions), which I
forgot to mention. What do you remember? Leave mail or public
post.
Many thanks.
- Brett
John Valeu
: I'm doing some research on recorded instances of the Talking Guitar
: effect. So far, I've got:
: Those Shoes (Eagles)
: Baby I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
: DO You Feel Like We Do (Peter Frampton)
: Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh)
: Walk This Way (chorus ... in the background) (Aerosmith)
: Sweet Emotion (intro) (Aerosmith)
: Tell Me Something Good (Rufus with Chaka Kahn)
Living On A Prayer - Bon Jovi
Rick Derringer used one (I think) on All American Boy, but I can't remember
the song. Now that I think of it - Joe Walsh played on that album with Rick.
I'll keep thinkin'
John V.
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Mike Pritchard
>From: bwm...@u.washington.edu (Brett McCarron)
>Subject: Talkbox Songs
>Date: 7 Jul 1994 18:38:17 GMT
How about "Show Me The Way", by Peter Frampton, "Man In The Box", by
Alice In Chains (it's subtle, but there).
Mike P.
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|> I'm doing some research on recorded instances of the Talking Guitar
|> effect. So far, I've got:
|>
|> Those Shoes (Eagles)
|> Baby I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
|> DO You Feel Like We Do (Peter Frampton)
|> Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh)
|> Walk This Way (chorus ... in the background) (Aerosmith)
|> Sweet Emotion (intro) (Aerosmith)
|> Tell Me Something Good (Rufus with Chaka Kahn)
|>
Don't forget the one that actually features the "talking guitar" as
the central character of the song:
Mindbender (Stillwater (?))
remember?: "My daddy was a Gibson, my momma was a Fender..."
Mark Lynch
hardware #4
St. Louis Toodle-oo" (sp?) I think they also used it on a song from the album
"Royal Scam", possibly the song "Haitian Divorce".
Ron Schmitt
email: rsch...@bnr.ca
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Alex Basson
>In article <2vhi2p$2...@news.u.washington.edu> bwm...@u.washington.edu (Brett McCarron) writes:
>>From: bwm...@u.washington.edu (Brett McCarron)
>>Subject: Talkbox Songs
>>Date: 7 Jul 1994 18:38:17 GMT
>>I'm doing some research on recorded instances of the Talking Guitar
>>effect. So far, I've got:
>>
>>Those Shoes (Eagles)
>>Baby I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
>>DO You Feel Like We Do (Peter Frampton)
>>Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh)
>>Walk This Way (chorus ... in the background) (Aerosmith)
>>Sweet Emotion (intro) (Aerosmith)
>>Tell Me Something Good (Rufus with Chaka Kahn)
>>
>>I know that there are others, like The Zoo (Scorpions), which I
>>forgot to mention. What do you remember? Leave mail or public
>>post.
>>
>>Many thanks.
>>
>>- Brett
>>
>>
>
>How about "Show Me The Way", by Peter Frampton, "Man In The Box", by
>Alice In Chains (it's subtle, but there).
>
>Mike P.
>
>
At the risk of proving myself an idiot: How can you guys tell the difference
between the Talkbox and a well-played wah? Frampton is a bit obvious, but
I don't hear it in Aerosmith, and I always thought "Man In The Box" was a wah.
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Brian Rost
Nobody mentioned "Butterfly Bleu" by Iron Butterfly (dating myself: I saw them
play this on PBS in 1970!). Guitarist Mike Pinera used a Kustom "Bag" which
was on the market a few years before the Heil Talk box. Same principle, but it
was housed in a hippie-style shoulder bag/pocketbook sort of thing. The show I
saw had a "rap session" with the studio audience as a regular feature; Pinera
explained the Bag to the incredulous audience.
Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com
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>At the risk of proving myself an idiot: How can you guys tell the difference
>between the Talkbox and a well-played wah? Frampton is a bit obvious, but
>I don't hear it in Aerosmith, and I always thought "Man In The Box" was a wah.
Interesting question. I could tell that _Man In The Box_ was done with a
talkbox the first time I heard it, but until now I've never thought about how
close that effect is to a wah. To me, they have different timbres (the talkbox
sounds more "hollow"). The way the sweep occurs on the two effects is
different to my ears as well; it would be hard to sweep a wah pedal in exactly
the same way its done on _MITB_.
David.
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Brett McCarron
TO the person who couldn't hear the talkbox in the Aerosmith listings,
listed to the "Wa-eee-y Down" lead guitar sounds in the intro to "Sweet
Emotion" on Toys in the Attic. Also try listening to the "Walk This Way"
chorus sounds produced by guitar in the background while Tyler and
company belt out the lyrics.
Wah-wah pedals have problems with producing an "EEE" sound. That in itself
is a give-away as to what device is being used. Although to confuse the
issue, a talkbox can sound like a wah, just not vice-versa.
Brett McCarron
live venues. Most of them were home-made in the early days, made from
Leslie horn driver parts and leftovers. I'd use it as an effect since I
had a crappy singing voice to do the vocal parts with lead guitar. Kind
of a Beck-meets-Frampton thing.
Now that my singing has improved from terrible to poor, I use it mainly
for the solo in Rocky Mountain Way and Man in the Box.
Now I'm wondering, since dealers have sold various iterations such as
the Kustom Bag, Heil Sound Talkbox, Dunlop (or was it Dean Markley)
version, etc. etc. , who on the net has used 'em, and what songs did you
play live with it?
The neatest one I ever had was a Golden Throat Deluxe by Electro-Harmonix
in 1978. It had a built-in amp. I especially liked the light bulb that not
only served as an "overload" indicator, but also as part of the load
circuit. Don't remember now if it was in series to also act as a fuse or not,
but knowing Mike Matthew's penchant for getting the most bang for the buck,
I'll bet it was.
Floyd Miller
Brett McCarron (bwm...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
: I'm doing some research on recorded instances of the Talking Guitar
The first time I ever heard/saw the use of a "talk box" was back in
the Summer of 1969. I was watching some music show on TV and Iron
Butterfly was playing (this was after In-Gadda). I don't recall the
name of the song but the guitarist used a "talk box" to sing a dialog.
He "talked" with high notes to do a woman's voice and low notes to do
a man's voice. It went something like:
Woman: help me
Man: no, I can't help you, baby.
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> >Brett McCarron (bwm...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
> >: I'm doing some research on recorded instances of the Talking Guitar
> >: effect. So far, I've got:
> >
> >: Those Shoes (Eagles)
> >: Baby I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
> >: DO You Feel Like We Do (Peter Frampton)
> >: Rocky Mountain Way (Joe Walsh)
> >: Walk This Way (chorus ... in the background) (Aerosmith)
> >: Sweet Emotion (intro) (Aerosmith)
> >: Tell Me Something Good (Rufus with Chaka Kahn)
> >
> >Living On A Prayer - Bon Jovi
> >Rick Derringer used one (I think) on All American Boy, but I can't remember
> >the song. Now that I think of it - Joe Walsh played on that album with Rick.
> >
> Kickstart my Heart - Motley Crue
Superstition-Beck, Bogart, Appice
She's A Woman-Jeff Beck (Blow-by-Blow)
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>effect. So far, I've got:
BM>Those Shoes (Eagles)
She's a Woman (Jeff Beck)
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Victor Mala <vi...@DCMPC.csg.gss.mot.com> wrote:
>Don't forget the new Pink Floyd song Keep Talking.
...and the old Pink Floyd song "Pigs" from _Animals_.
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Chuck673
mkoh...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (mike) writes:
Don't forget Mainline Florida, Steady rolling man by Eric Clapton on the
461 Ocean Boulevard album. These are my favorite songs using the talking
box. Espescially with Clapton using the slide along with the box on
Mainline Florida. It really sounded like the guitar was talking. I highly
recommend you checking out the entire album (other songs include I shot
the sheireff, willie and the hand jive, and Let it flow.)
Also there was More ounce to the bounce by Roger (Ex-Parliment guitarist)
And in the disco era there was a song called Get up
Also Peter Frampton used a talking box on his Frampton Live album. The
song I think was called Show me the way.
Talking box is a unique effect and I don't know why it's not used now
days. They are very easy to make. Back in the seventies when I was in my
teens I made a couple of them from stuff just laying around my house.
Mark Papianni
>In article <Cswy5...@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
>mkoh...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (mike) writes:
>Don't forget Mainline Florida, Steady rolling man by Eric Clapton on the
>461 Ocean Boulevard album.
>And in the disco era there was a song called Get up
>Peter Frampton song was called Show me the way.
> Frampton also used it on "Do You Feel Like We Do" off of Frampton Comes Alive
Remember Rufus w/Chaka Kahn? The Song was "Tell Me Somthing Good".
Joe Walsh really exploited the talkbox on the song "Rocky Mountain Way".
I saw him perform it live with Ringo and his All-Starr Band in 1990
at the Garden State Arts Center (NJ). 3 words... Fab-U-Lous!
Anyone else use a talk box? An earlier post talked about making one
from "Household" items. Could someone give me instuctions on how to
make one? I've got a friend who's a great guitarist who would really
get a kick out of using one... Any suggestions?
Doug Mauldin
papi...@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Mark Papianni) writes:
> Remember Rufus w/Chaka Kahn? The Song was "Tell Me Somthing Good".
Funny you should mention that one. I heard it today on the radio
for the first time in years.
I didn't see the beginning of this thread; has anyone mentined the
string of "talking guitar" records by Pete Drake from the early '60s?
Or "Sparky and the Talking Train" from the '40s? Also, I remember
something called "Mind Bender" from the '70s (can't remember the group.)
("My daddy was a Gibson, my mama was a Fender/That's why they call me
Mind Bender." Well, at least it rhymes!)
> Anyone else use a talk box? An earlier post talked about making one
> from "Household" items. Could someone give me instuctions on how to
> make one? I've got a friend who's a great guitarist who would really
> get a kick out of using one... Any suggestions?
I built one once from the driver for a small re-entrant horn speaker,
a length of rubber tubing, and a rubber insulator boot (from a big
alligator clip) to couple the tubing to the driver. I used vinyl
electrical tape to hold it all together.
Advice: be careful not to gag yourself with the tubing.
Caution: arrange the driver so that a big loop of tubing hangs down
below it in such a way that if you drool down the tube, it won't get
into the driver.
WARNING: Be sure that the amp feeding the driver is properly grounded
and isn't leaking any line current into the speaker leads (yes, it can happen)
because that could cause a shock hazard like you've never tasted!
Electrical safety is very important here because (a) it is possible
that, if given a path, leakage current could flow between the guitar
(or mike, chair, ground, or something else you touch) and the speaker circuit,
and (b) it is possible to get a continuous line of somewhat conductive
saliva all the way down the tubing and into the driver, and complete the
circuit with your tongue!
It would definitely be a good idea to use a transformer for
isolation between the amp and driver, even if your amp uses an output
transformer already. (It might be hard to find a 1:1 isolation transformer
that would work well in a speaker circuit, but it's the concept that matters.)
Or use a battery-powered amplifier to feed the driver (it doesn't take
much audio power to get the desired results.)
BTW wasn't this kind of device once marketed under the name "Sonovox"?
Disclaimer: Kids, don't try this at home! Don't actually hook up such
a contraption described in this article. This post is for illustration only.
If you need one, buy one that's commercially built (and covered by
product liability insurance.) Have I CMA enough?
Oh, yes, one other thing: the above is the opinion of the undersigned.
Not a spokesman for anyone or anything.
Not responsible. Park and lock it.
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