In the CD player
Ron Thompson
Mulleted Arena rock. If it's a joke it's a good one. Great sounding
guitars, nice songs, singer can be annoying. Good stuff these kids are
doing.
Turin Brakes, two of them, don't remember their names. Outstanding stuff.
ZZTop Mescalero. Great record, sounds like real rock and roll. Get it now.
Almost but not quite ready for prime time nearly mixed 7 or 8 songs from Ani
Difrancos' next one, I think coming in January. Nice stuff, she is back to
herself and and a guitar and some good songs.
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rct
The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
PRS Geek
"Ron Thompson" <Ron.Th...@faa.gov> wrote in message
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> ZZTop Mescalero. Great record, sounds like real rock and roll. Get it
now.
I have a pre-release copy of that CD... The one I have sounds like a bunch
of outtakes or rough mixes. And they sound like a shell of their former
selves (especially Billy)... Either my copy is an early and VERY rough mix
with outtakes, or you and I have a really different take on what what this
thing sounds like. I know our buddy g-mane gets some recording and mixing
credits for that CD, but I'd REALLY like to know if what's on my CD is what
they released, because if it is, Billy and the boys been drinkin' way too
much!
IMO, and all that...
Jeff
Ron Thompson
> > ZZTop Mescalero. Great record, sounds like real rock and roll. Get it
now.
> I have a pre-release copy of that CD...
I have a regular old bought it copy. Paid full retail too.
> The one I have sounds like a bunch of outtakes or rough mixes.
No, this doesn't sound like that.
> And they sound like a shell of their former selves (especially Billy)...
Vocally you mean? I don't hear that, but that could be me.
> Either my copy is an early and VERY rough mix
> with outtakes, or you and I have a really different take on what what this
> thing sounds like.
I don't know. I wrote "sounds like real rock and roll" mainly compared to
some of their more keyboard/sampler driven stuff. This record ain't so much
all that stuff. There wasn't anything wrong with that other stuff, I just
didn't like it as much as this kind of stuff.
> I know our buddy g-mane gets some recording and mixing
> credits for that CD, but I'd REALLY like to know if what's on my CD is
what
> they released, because if it is, Billy and the boys been drinkin' way too
much!
I haven't personally heard too many early whacks that sound much like the
finished one. If you have a not done master or whatever, they probably
hadn't had it in the car yet, so it won't sound so great anywhere. At
least, in my experience that is.
Rippo
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It's exactly the same. Other than the MP3 audio quality issue and
there's a hidden track on the retail version. Same mix though.
Rippo
PRS Geek
> PRS Geek wrote:
>
> > > ZZTop Mescalero. Great record, sounds like real rock and roll. Get
it
> now.
>
> > I have a pre-release copy of that CD...
>
> I have a regular old bought it copy. Paid full retail too.
Honestly, I don't own much "free" music cuz I don't really care for screwing
the artists, but this I got for free.
> > The one I have sounds like a bunch of outtakes or rough mixes.
> No, this doesn't sound like that.
OK... Then, what I have must be a car copy.
> > And they sound like a shell of their former selves (especially Billy)...
> Vocally you mean? I don't hear that, but that could be me.
Vocally, and musically... Some of the vocals are just plain bad, and some of
the guitar playing is just plain bad. You know, I do a bit of my own
recording and I leave some stuff in that I could do better, but some of the
stuff on my copy I would have let NO one ever hear. Some of the guitar parts
have SO much distortion and gain and so dang compressed that I was really
highly disappointed. Personally, I just wish they'd go back to Tres Hombres
and borrow from that. That's before BG had to be tuning down to C# sludge
and then adding all kinds of distortion pedals to get "his sound".
> > Either my copy is an early and VERY rough mix
> > with outtakes, or you and I have a really different take on what what
this
> > thing sounds like.
> I don't know. I wrote "sounds like real rock and roll" mainly compared to
> some of their more keyboard/sampler driven stuff. This record ain't so
much
> all that stuff. There wasn't anything wrong with that other stuff, I just
> didn't like it as much as this kind of stuff.
Right, I did notice that they didn't rely on all the sequenced parts this
time and that's what made me want to hear it. But it also seems that every
single tune has a cartoonish flavor that was cool if there were one or two,
but every song? I loaned that CD to a friend months ago so I can't just re
listen to it. he's also a very experienced guitar player (in "our" age
range) and feeels the same way I do. then again, Tres Hombres will ALways be
my favorite, so there's that!
> > I know our buddy g-mane gets some recording and mixing
> > credits for that CD, but I'd REALLY like to know if what's on my CD is
> what
> > they released, because if it is, Billy and the boys been drinkin' way
too
> much!
> I haven't personally heard too many early whacks that sound much like the
> finished one. If you have a not done master or whatever, they probably
> hadn't had it in the car yet, so it won't sound so great anywhere. At
> least, in my experience that is.
Well, then if there were indeed early whacks, then this is one of them. I
thought the CD had potential, but not in they way it appears on this
particular CD. And the songs themselves still left me wondering why they
just don't tune back up to pitch and play. The sludge is killin me indeed!
Jeff Liberatore
PRS Geek
"Rippo" <no_e...@all.com> wrote in message
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> > credits for that CD, but I'd REALLY like to know if what's on my CD is
> what
> > they released, because if it is, Billy and the boys been drinkin' way
> too
> > much!
> >
> > IMO, and all that...
> >
> > Jeff
> It's exactly the same. Other than the MP3 audio quality issue and
> there's a hidden track on the retail version. Same mix though.
Well, Rippo... You would know... Did I just get too picky over the years?
I don't want to slam one of the bands I grew up with and loved but... How
they left some of those solos and vocals in thete is far beyond me. Maybe I
should just get my own copy and listen just to see if I'm just not nuts.
Jeff
Ron Thompson
> Vocally, and musically... Some of the vocals are just plain bad, and some
of
> the guitar playing is just plain bad. You know, I do a bit of my own
> recording and I leave some stuff in that I could do better, but some of
the
> stuff on my copy I would have let NO one ever hear. Some of the guitar
parts
> have SO much distortion and gain and so dang compressed that I was really
> highly disappointed. Personally, I just wish they'd go back to Tres
Hombres
> and borrow from that. That's before BG had to be tuning down to C# sludge
> and then adding all kinds of distortion pedals to get "his sound".
Ok by me. I haven't heard any just plain bad guitar playing. Some major to
minor moving around that I might not do myself, but nothing overtly bad in
my opinion. Vocs all sound pretty good to me I guess.
> Right, I did notice that they didn't rely on all the sequenced parts this
> time and that's what made me want to hear it. But it also seems that every
> single tune has a cartoonish flavor that was cool if there were one or
two,
> but every song?
Yes, they are quite the poke-fun-at-something every song kinda band. Have
been a long time.
> Well, then if there were indeed early whacks, then this is one of them. I
> thought the CD had potential, but not in they way it appears on this
> particular CD. And the songs themselves still left me wondering why they
> just don't tune back up to pitch and play. The sludge is killin me indeed!
I haven't listened to it with an ear to learning it yet, and I haven't sat
down with a guitar and this record yet, but I didn't really hear much of
anything way tuned down or anything. That could be because I don't care
what they tune to, I still learn it in standard.
PRS Geek
> PRS Geek wrote:
> > and borrow from that. That's before BG had to be tuning down to C#
sludge
> > and then adding all kinds of distortion pedals to get "his sound".
> Ok by me. I haven't heard any just plain bad guitar playing. Some major
to
> minor moving around that I might not do myself, but nothing overtly bad in
> my opinion. Vocs all sound pretty good to me I guess.
Well, I just think that BG has mucked up his sound over the years. Whatever
it was that I used to love about BG is gone and has been gone for years.
Nothing has ever sounded better (guitarwise, and IMO) better than the first
4 or 5 albums. Les Pauls, Strats and a bunch of beautiful sounding
Marshalls, etc... With todays mastering techniques, his tone could be larger
than life with the simple rigs and tuning he used to record with is all I'm
saying.
Jeff
Odin
"PRS Geek" <nos...@none.com> wrote in message
> Well, I just think that BG has mucked up his sound over the years.
Whatever
> it was that I used to love about BG is gone and has been gone for years.
It left after El Loco. And hasn't been seen since.
> Nothing has ever sounded better (guitarwise, and IMO) better than the
first
> 4 or 5 albums. Les Pauls, Strats and a bunch of beautiful sounding
> Marshalls, etc... With todays mastering techniques, his tone could be
larger
> than life with the simple rigs and tuning he used to record with is all
I'm
> saying.
Amen. Oh, don't forget the Teles/Esquires.
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